BreezyLimbo
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Yeh, before I think it was only one day though and I think you could bypass it?
Theyd have to go harder this time around. Get them alt right fuckers riled up they cant go troll on reddit or FB.
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FCC Republicans vow to gut net neutrality rules as soon as possible
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Yeh, before I think it was only one day though and I think you could bypass it?
Theyd have to go harder this time around. Get them alt right fuckers riled up they cant go troll on reddit or FB.
balladofwindfishes
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Yes, but why would the GOP care about a bunch of liberal hippy sites?
ErasureAcer
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that's exactly it.
Republicans are notoriously short sighted.
Electric Eye
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Its going to have companies like google and facebook ramp up the deployment of their wireless hsia solutions like 5G wireless, from what I have read though that tech is very troublesome but it beats having data caps. Say good by to that ping though.
How is the internet in any way good now?
I mean are people really blind to the state of services in the US now? You already have
-hard data caps for a majority of markets (except for some special services like Netflix that ISPs throw in as a bundle package deal)
-very slow data speeds compared to the rest of the world
-crazy overage fees
-throttling of speed for users who use too much data
-substandard coverage for a majority of users
The internet is already really bad. This will probably make it worse, or maybe companies will axe data plans in favor of throttling specific sites...who knows.
It's only going to be high usage services that rack up the GBs. I would guess many already pay ISPs for a fast lane like Netflix.
So basically the whole thing is a sham. If it will not increase my connection speed to even their bundled sites, then it serves no good to any customer.
I guess the only good thing to come out of this will be a huge resurgence of yahoo geocities pages, if the infographic posted on the first page is anything to go by...
HawksWinStanley
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I'll be curious to see how fast people change their tune when they realize their favorite porn sites could be at risk.
Because while all of that's true it's still technically the best it's ever been. Now my kids will have the same benefits with a much bigger downside.
Henry Jones Jr
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This is seriously going to turn into some Metal Gear Solid 2 shit.
No. This specifically hurts upstarts and small sites who can't spend a lot of money to compete. Any large website would be on the "free-tier." both because it works for the ISP's advertising and because they have money to ensure it.
No this will likely to entrench their position. Google, Amazon, Facebook can all afford to pay so they'll pay it.
However there is a battle to be had here - Telcos have to dare to try it and risk losing their subscribers to competitors who don't.
In wireless it should be OK since the competitive pressure never really goes away. In fixed line.....they are gonna try and they'll get away with it since Trump will be gutting the FCC anyway.
ErasureAcer
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This is capitalism folks. People making money off other people's backs and all they did was rig the system. No work at all.
You want to access the world's encyclopedia, Wikipedia. $10/month. This is ISPs picking winners and losers. Or you can go to ComWarnerPedia for $1/month. All the same info they copied from Wikipedia. They want to profit off ingenuity for doing nothing but making monopolies.
You want to access the world's encyclopedia, Wikipedia. $10/month. This is ISPs picking winners and losers. Or you can go to ComWarnerPedia for $1/month. All the same info they copied from Wikipedia. They want to profit off ingenuity for doing nothing but making monopolies.
TheMan
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If I have to pay extra to stream vids of curvy chicks with big naturals, I'm personally going to lead a protest on capital hill.
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Electric Eye
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Anyone down for a LAN party? We gonna party like its 1995.
I'd bet that a lot of people still don't know what Net Neutrality is. How many people have you met that "just aren't good with computers" and refuse to learn? Then, put the Republican angle of it being more government regulation into the equation.
It's a real risk and there's good reason to be concerned about it.
CraigerGamer
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this is not about internet companies. This is about the huge internet/phone/cable companies consolidating their power and ensuring they make money off of the sharing of information. Cox, Time Warner, ATT, didn't realize the power of the internet until it was too late so they didn't capitalize on the profits that were available by simply controlling the stream of information. Getting rid of net neutrality is their way of making up for lost time and ensuring their relevancy well into the future.
nintendoman58
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I just really can't see them going: "Here's this extremely anti-consumer new rules, please comment." and them getting millions of comments against them and them going "Haha screw you we're doing it anyway."
I mean, really consider the massive scale of the internet they're screwing with here. Do you really expect people to be quiet about this when they've stood against it before?
It won't be just republicans though. ISPs as well. If one tries to go super anti-consumer (They can't possibly think people will be okay with a nonsense chart like that), people denounce that particular ISP. Then another ISP goes: "Hey! A lot of people don't like what that ISP is doing! Let's not do that and have them use our service instead!" Then people praise that particular ISP, and everything goes back to normal.
It'll be Sony E3 2013 all over again.
ErasureAcer
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Limited access(no access) to porn will send many moronic men(which there are many), I fear, into raping machines.
3 million more people voted for Hillary. Blame the electoral college, Blame Hillary for ignoring the rust belt. Seems silly putting the blame solely on a tiny fraction of liberals, when liberals did in fact show up and vote.
Wasn't there someone who wanted to equate certain types of protests as "economic terrorism?"
I'm quite sure if that idea became law, such protests would be seen as acts of terrorism...
balladofwindfishes
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The GOP really doesn't care what's popular or not. See: The fight against gay marriage
They're never punished for it because single issue abortion/racist voters let them have free reign to do whatever. So they do whatever.
Choppasmith
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I feel like this is going to be like the dismantling of the cable cars in LA and then 50 years from now we'll be talking about how amazing things were back then.
Darryl M R
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It would be amazing if Google, Wiki, Facebook, and Twitter blackout services to the US for 48 hours, explain why net neutrality is important, and list the name and numbers of state senators offices.
If people have already normalized the health care system in America, I have a very hard time not seeing this change getting normalized too...
Yeah, most areas only have 1 isp. There is nothing you could do.
Obama had sway over the FCC and DoJ. That is gone now. It's already dead.
I'm sure the big ISPs will listen to their pleas as they sit atop their virtual monopolies with regulations in place to stifle any potential competition.
Most markets do not have more than one or two ISPs, though. There's so little competition in the industry that customers don't get a choice to 'vote with their dollars.' The choice is largely between either having internet or not having internet.
No it wont. It'll be slow and unless sites do to what they did when SOPA was a thing, 4 years later, it's not gonna be a happy sight.
America's broadband infrastructure is a joke. Cable co's are a monopoly. The only hope was forcing ATT and Verizon to re-enter fixed line in a big way to compete (with fixed-mobile bundling).
There is a reason why average European broadband bills are c.$40-50 and American cable co ARPUs are >$150. There is no consumer choice.
What competitors? A huge amount of this country has only one option for internet providers.
nintendoman58
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We're talking about people's access to online gaming, Netflix streaming, pornography access, etc.
This is stuff that people do every day for entertainment. Nobody'll take this lying down.
Electric Eye
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The telco isps are complete morons. They are having their lunch eaten by the cable companies.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Wall-Street-Thinks-Cable-Companies-Will-Rule-in-2017-138565
and still they want to charge as much as the cable companies for subpar copper.
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