There is no way the budget of W101 is even close to what scale bound had.
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Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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There is no way the budget of W101 is even close to what scale bound had.
Obliterator
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UE4.
I hadn't even thought about MS just seizing all assets and giving it to another team to finish. That would be truly crazy, though not impossible. They own all the materials.
I guess it would just come down to whether MS really thinks the concept is solid and if they have a team that they believe could quickly wrap up the production on it.
Yet i made one of the threads and was hyped as fuck for the game.
I hadn't been following the game closely, but if Microsoft owns the IP there's probably no chance of it being revived.
moltonasty
Member
Not gonna happen lol
slavesnyder
Member
jep, roll out a cool firmware update!
I would think Gears 4 had been started before Spencer took over, otherwise it had a brilliantly fast development time for an AAA game. Crackdown was announced at E3 2014, so Mattrick was probably the one who laid the first steps for that project, otherwise it would have been conceived within three months.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
One other thing I guess I can say now, and I might've said before.
STOP TRYING TO FORCE FUCKING MULTIPLAYER INTO GAMES WHERE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DAMN SENSE!!!!
Seriously, did we honestly need any 4 player co-op bs? Whatever happened to developers just working on one, amazing singelplayer experience and just calling it a fucking day? What is with this obsession of late to shoehorn in a multiplayer component, thinking what is often a very neutered version of the more elaborate and rich singleplayer experience, is going to be something that people will even want to play? That's the shittiest new trend I've seen in games. Not every damn game needs to be multiplayer/co-op enabled. Just fucking stop already.
I think they get people into these meetings and somehow show them statistics on sales for multiplayer games, and people end up drawing the wrong conclusions from those stats, not knowing that it has less to do with multiplayer for the sake of multiplayer, and more to do with the core game just being a more natural fit for extension through a multiplayer based feature. The moment I heard the game would have some kind of multiplayer, I didn't like it. The reason it's getting this focus is because I honestly believe that a misguided search for a multiplayer component likely distracted away from just making the core game itself way better without any such multiplayer consideration.
STOP TRYING TO FORCE FUCKING MULTIPLAYER INTO GAMES WHERE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DAMN SENSE!!!!
Seriously, did we honestly need any 4 player co-op bs? Whatever happened to developers just working on one, amazing singelplayer experience and just calling it a fucking day? What is with this obsession of late to shoehorn in a multiplayer component, thinking what is often a very neutered version of the more elaborate and rich singleplayer experience, is going to be something that people will even want to play? That's the shittiest new trend I've seen in games. Not every damn game needs to be multiplayer/co-op enabled. Just fucking stop already.
I think they get people into these meetings and somehow show them statistics on sales for multiplayer games, and people end up drawing the wrong conclusions from those stats, not knowing that it has less to do with multiplayer for the sake of multiplayer, and more to do with the core game just being a more natural fit for extension through a multiplayer based feature. The moment I heard the game would have some kind of multiplayer, I didn't like it. The reason it's getting this focus is because I honestly believe that a misguided search for a multiplayer component likely distracted away from just making the core game itself way better without any such multiplayer consideration.
Ninja Scooter
Member
You mean like Rime? Or Stig's Santa Monica project? Or the Studio San Diego game that was canned like 3 months ago? This is a part of the business. You guys are just trying to create your own narratives around "Good guy" and "bad guy" companies and executives and it's dumb.
Salty Rice
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Phil Spencer: "Im sorry to say that Scalebound was canceled. It was necessary."
"But i still loooooove games! Please look foward to Scorpio tho."
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Wow, I hadn't heard about this. That's nuts.
TemplaerDude
Member
Putting this in screencap form so it doesn't go unnoticed (source is a Persona Central writer)
Saddening news if this is true.
Man, that is sad, I hope he gets the help he needs.
Crash55118
Member
It all depends what they have in the pipeline - who knows, they could have a number of projects lined up ready to go from pre-prod to full production. It just seems very inopportune to have what might constitute 2/3 of their workforce not being involved in any active projects.
I really friggin hope he's okay
What are you suggesting?
goldenpp72
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This is half of the Xbox one lineup I cared about down the drain, fuck MS if this is anything they could have fixed within reason.
Even though the Scalebound cancelation is relatively a drop in the bucket, the trend you're describing here is really disappointing. Not sure where they go from here aside from doubling down on their cash cow franchises. (which, as you mentioned, are waining)
I'm so much happier now that I'm dead. Technically missing. Soon to be presumed dead. Gone.
And this lazy oblivious and incompetent "Microsoft" company will go to prison for my murder. They took my pride and my dignity and my hope and my money. They took and took from me until I no longer existed. That's murder. Let the punishment fit the crime. To fake a convincing release date for Scale-fucking-bound you have to have discipline. You befriend a local foold, Platinum Games. Harvest the details of his hundrum life and cram him with stories about how development will be "doing fine", how the the game will soon be playable from start to finish. Secretly create some money troubles: forced online co-op, micotransactions, western bullshit. With the help of the unwitting, you bump up your life insurance. Purchase the Xbox One. With the Elite Controller. Generic. Overpriced. Pay cash. You need to package yourself so that people will truly mourn your loss. And I don't know how much you know about Japan, but they truly believe in honor, it's an important part of their culture... You know what's hard? Faking your excitement for this game. First, you pretend to follow all the dishearting news about this trainwerk of a game. Watch every damn E3 showing. From the first CGi vaporware trailer. Wake up at fucking 3.a.m, June 2016 just to see how this game has been resorted to a How To Train a Flying Potato simulator. Then you steal a Recore copy. And you pretend to like it. Voila! The game is nothing like you wanted. You wasted 60 dollars. Happy 3th Anniversary of this game's announcement. But then you go on NeoGAF, and post "wow I loved the E3 demo, MS is doing a great job
" while you dry off the tears running down your face. Wait for the clueless director to announce the release date. Off he goes... and the clock is ticking. 20 weeks away from the release day and they haven't even shown final console footage yet. You feel fisically ill. A lot. A lot. A lot. You start to post about how the game is likely being saved for Scorpio How the game still retains that Hideki Kamiya-sama magic, even though you know deep in yourself that's one hell of a lie. June. E3 starts and they fucking bring a broken demo on stage. "Well, Platinum has never made a bad game, so there's no reason not to trust them". I repeat to myself. But everyone else playing the demo booths agrees that it is just bad. And because you're you, you don't stop there. You go back. To the day this fucking game was announced. Start with the fairy-tale days. The biggest Xbox One exclusive. A system seller title. From the creator of Resident Evil 2 and Bayonetta. Those are true. After that, you invent. "Scalebound was supposed to relive the Xbox brand" "X1 would likely outsell PS4 when this game gets released... at least in the US" The spending, the abuse, the fear, the threat of violence... burn it, just the right amount. Make sure the fans will find it. Finally, honor tradition with a very special treasure hunt. And if I get everything right, the world will hate Microsoft for killing his beautiful, legacy franchise. And after all the outrage, when I'm ready, I'll go out on to GameStop and buy a Playstation 4 + NieR: Automata bundle. And when my mother finds me investing my precious time trying to bond with this hot anime girl, I'll look straight into her eyes and say "but have you looked at her butt? Have your really looked at her butt?" In that very moment, she knows. She fucking knows. As she handles me the nugget pieces she previously cooked for me, she leaves my room with these words: "NierR is the true savior of Platinum Games". And that's when the people will know, Microsoft dumped Scalebound like garbage, and it floated past all the other abused, unwanted, inconvenient titles like Phantom Dust and Fable: Legends. The Scalebound fans will be gone, but then... we never really existed. We loved a game we pretended to like.
"An Xbox One exclusive".
Gamers always use that, don't they? As their defining compliment: "Quantum Break is a true Xbox exclusive". A true Xbox One exclusive is hot. A true Xbox One exclusive is game. A true Xbox One exclusive is fun. A true Xbox One exclusive never makes its fans angry. It only smiles in a chagrined, loving manner. The Platinum Game fans like what they like, so evidently they're vinyl hipsters who loves fetish Manga. If they like girls gone wild, Claire Redfield was a good example of empowering woman design. Bayonetta is sexist trash.. When I met Phil Spencer I knew he wanted "true Xbox Exclusive experience". And for him, I'll admit: Scalebound truly was it. He created an empty development funded by vapor and nothingness. Microsoft rewrote the concept to fit those Sony esclusive games everyone loves. They put headphones into the game because we all love headphones. They showed the game, semi-regularly. I lived in the moment. The same dragon portion for three years. I was fuckinging game. I can't say I didn't enjoy some of it. Microsoft teased out in me things I didn't know existed. A lightness, a humor, an ease. But I made them smarter. Sharper. I inspired them to rise to my level. I forged the company of my dreams. We were happy pretending to be other people. We were the happiest couple we knew. And what's the point of being together if you're not the happiest? But Platinum got lazy and Microsoft stubborn. They delayed the game. Microsoft actually expected me to love support their Xbox console unconditionally. And before finishing with Platinum, they delayed the game another time. From Holiday 2016, to simply "2017". We knew it was coming. We knew that what the press sneaks were telling us, was true.
You think I'd let Microsoft destroy me and end up happier than ever?
No fucking way.
They don't get to win. I don't know how much the rest of you know about social culture (I'm an expert), but grown-ups work for things. Grown-ups pay.
Grown-ups suffer consequences.
And this lazy oblivious and incompetent "Microsoft" company will go to prison for my murder. They took my pride and my dignity and my hope and my money. They took and took from me until I no longer existed. That's murder. Let the punishment fit the crime. To fake a convincing release date for Scale-fucking-bound you have to have discipline. You befriend a local foold, Platinum Games. Harvest the details of his hundrum life and cram him with stories about how development will be "doing fine", how the the game will soon be playable from start to finish. Secretly create some money troubles: forced online co-op, micotransactions, western bullshit. With the help of the unwitting, you bump up your life insurance. Purchase the Xbox One. With the Elite Controller. Generic. Overpriced. Pay cash. You need to package yourself so that people will truly mourn your loss. And I don't know how much you know about Japan, but they truly believe in honor, it's an important part of their culture... You know what's hard? Faking your excitement for this game. First, you pretend to follow all the dishearting news about this trainwerk of a game. Watch every damn E3 showing. From the first CGi vaporware trailer. Wake up at fucking 3.a.m, June 2016 just to see how this game has been resorted to a How To Train a Flying Potato simulator. Then you steal a Recore copy. And you pretend to like it. Voila! The game is nothing like you wanted. You wasted 60 dollars. Happy 3th Anniversary of this game's announcement. But then you go on NeoGAF, and post "wow I loved the E3 demo, MS is doing a great job
" while you dry off the tears running down your face. Wait for the clueless director to announce the release date. Off he goes... and the clock is ticking. 20 weeks away from the release day and they haven't even shown final console footage yet. You feel fisically ill. A lot. A lot. A lot. You start to post about how the game is likely being saved for Scorpio How the game still retains that Hideki Kamiya-sama magic, even though you know deep in yourself that's one hell of a lie. June. E3 starts and they fucking bring a broken demo on stage. "Well, Platinum has never made a bad game, so there's no reason not to trust them". I repeat to myself. But everyone else playing the demo booths agrees that it is just bad. And because you're you, you don't stop there. You go back. To the day this fucking game was announced. Start with the fairy-tale days. The biggest Xbox One exclusive. A system seller title. From the creator of Resident Evil 2 and Bayonetta. Those are true. After that, you invent. "Scalebound was supposed to relive the Xbox brand" "X1 would likely outsell PS4 when this game gets released... at least in the US" The spending, the abuse, the fear, the threat of violence... burn it, just the right amount. Make sure the fans will find it. Finally, honor tradition with a very special treasure hunt. And if I get everything right, the world will hate Microsoft for killing his beautiful, legacy franchise. And after all the outrage, when I'm ready, I'll go out on to GameStop and buy a Playstation 4 + NieR: Automata bundle. And when my mother finds me investing my precious time trying to bond with this hot anime girl, I'll look straight into her eyes and say "but have you looked at her butt? Have your really looked at her butt?" In that very moment, she knows. She fucking knows. As she handles me the nugget pieces she previously cooked for me, she leaves my room with these words: "NierR is the true savior of Platinum Games". And that's when the people will know, Microsoft dumped Scalebound like garbage, and it floated past all the other abused, unwanted, inconvenient titles like Phantom Dust and Fable: Legends. The Scalebound fans will be gone, but then... we never really existed. We loved a game we pretended to like."An Xbox One exclusive".
Gamers always use that, don't they? As their defining compliment: "Quantum Break is a true Xbox exclusive". A true Xbox One exclusive is hot. A true Xbox One exclusive is game. A true Xbox One exclusive is fun. A true Xbox One exclusive never makes its fans angry. It only smiles in a chagrined, loving manner. The Platinum Game fans like what they like, so evidently they're vinyl hipsters who loves fetish Manga. If they like girls gone wild, Claire Redfield was a good example of empowering woman design. Bayonetta is sexist trash.. When I met Phil Spencer I knew he wanted "true Xbox Exclusive experience". And for him, I'll admit: Scalebound truly was it. He created an empty development funded by vapor and nothingness. Microsoft rewrote the concept to fit those Sony esclusive games everyone loves. They put headphones into the game because we all love headphones. They showed the game, semi-regularly. I lived in the moment. The same dragon portion for three years. I was fuckinging game. I can't say I didn't enjoy some of it. Microsoft teased out in me things I didn't know existed. A lightness, a humor, an ease. But I made them smarter. Sharper. I inspired them to rise to my level. I forged the company of my dreams. We were happy pretending to be other people. We were the happiest couple we knew. And what's the point of being together if you're not the happiest? But Platinum got lazy and Microsoft stubborn. They delayed the game. Microsoft actually expected me to love support their Xbox console unconditionally. And before finishing with Platinum, they delayed the game another time. From Holiday 2016, to simply "2017". We knew it was coming. We knew that what the press sneaks were telling us, was true.
You think I'd let Microsoft destroy me and end up happier than ever?
No fucking way.
They don't get to win. I don't know how much the rest of you know about social culture (I'm an expert), but grown-ups work for things. Grown-ups pay.
Grown-ups suffer consequences.
GHG
Member
It's no longer down to luck when it's a pattern.
moltonasty
Member
I don't actually expect MS to leave the console business, but it is really weird how quiet they've been with no new title announcements for basically years now...I don't understand their strategy at all this gen
2blackcats
Member
I'd like to think they're just shelving it for Scorpio instead. The rumours about Kamiya's health issues are a concern though.
Replying to you but loads of similar posts.
A Scorpio game is still an Xbox One game.
The game was more than likely already in development for both.
If Microsoft have designed the Scorpio in a similar fashion to how Sony made the Pro, up porting to Scorpio while in development should be pretty easy.
OrbitalBeard
Member
This is why I couldn't care less about Scorpio at this point.
He's suggesting that all people posting in this thread should be put into an ignore list
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Promising? That's not what I said after watching the gameplay video. The game looked awful. Bad graphics, dull, gameplay ... I have watched the video a couple of times and never made it to the end.
Papacheeks
Banned
Is Scorpio confirmed to have exclusive games or something? I thought all Scorpio games would play on XB1, like the PS4 Pro. It's not an entirely new system, yeah?
Confused why people would think this is being "moved" to Scorpio.
People can't wait to buy a $400-500 console that still doesn't have any exclusive games, I guess.
Confused why people would think this is being "moved" to Scorpio.
People can't wait to buy a $400-500 console that still doesn't have any exclusive games, I guess.
Bear Force One
Banned
You can't be this far gone.
Nintendo magic, man.
Microsoft is in trouble. I don't mean this as hyperbole or shit posting. I want them to succeed. But it's not looking good for this year and next years lineup.
More stuff has been closed down or canceled under Spencer than Mattrick lol.
And then nobody buys it again. Cant blame them for being reluctant with that,
Stiler
Member
Sigh, one of the FEW games that actually me excited for it on my xbox (which is collecting dust cause there's nothing to play on it).
With things like this, plus the decision to close Lionhead and shelf hte Fable franchise, does ANYONE at microsoft understand that you NEED games on your system to sell it?
Sony certainly understands this and even Nintendo.
With things like this, plus the decision to close Lionhead and shelf hte Fable franchise, does ANYONE at microsoft understand that you NEED games on your system to sell it?
Sony certainly understands this and even Nintendo.
What t-shirt is he wearing when he says this?
TissueBox
Member
I'm curious as to what the problems with the engine may have comprised and etcetera but I guess that'll be under wraps for a while. If budget was indeed a main concern and the like I wonder what PG was grappling with technically. It could also have just been poor pub/dev communications.
In the end PG was probably always in a bit of a tight corner though. It was always a heavy rock trying to stay afloat on the river just to get to the spring...or something. In any case, hope Kamiya hangs in there. ^^'
In the end PG was probably always in a bit of a tight corner though. It was always a heavy rock trying to stay afloat on the river just to get to the spring...or something. In any case, hope Kamiya hangs in there. ^^'
Not liing all these port begging posts. You should all be concerned if Platinum survives this at all.
Oh I'm sure it was much bigger but until Scalebound according to interviews with P* W101 was the highest budget game they worked on, despite what the cartoony graphics might make you think.
Oh I'm sure it was much bigger but until Scalebound according to interviews with P* W101 was the highest budget game they worked on, despite what the cartoony graphics might make you think.
LMAO, Get'em!
IgotElbows
Member
Now is the time and place for Microsoft to start pandering to the fans.
E3 this year should have a teaser Trailer for Banjoo Three. People would flip their shit in joy.
pinkurocket
Member
Oh noo this is tragic news. I liked the look of the game despite the showings looking a bit rough gameplay-wise. ):
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I imagine this is exactly how it goes down. I call the Scorpio shit out awhile ago and got blasted because the hype is real. They've been touting around the console more than their games since they announced it and it's a problem at least to me. Can't get hyped for a console with few games
Shit posts like this. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227955935&postcount=211
Damn. Hope Crackdown makes it through.
I'd imagine Microsoft will keep funding Crackdown until the very end just to save face. They really can't just axe another title.
ChosenPredator
Banned
My confidence in MS is really low at the moment, while they've been doing excellent with backwards compatibility ... this constant cock teasing of showing us games that look incredible and never actually showing up is becoming irritating, as you all know I'm a phantom dust guy and that was another scenario that agitated the f'in shit out of me...... so it's all on you MS to do something about this.
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