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[TannerDemoz]

NOOOOO

Come on, that was one of the few Xbone exclusives

Fixed

 

[SRTtoZ]

 

[TheOfficeMut]

What are you suggesting?

It's a conspiracy! Sony bias! He'd be right about the latter, because I am a Sony fan.

As for this game clearly I have been extremely confused. Until I researched the game five minutes ago I thought Scalebound == Phantom Dust for a very long time.

 

[enzo_gt]

Man, it looked like a really bad frankenstein sort of game in all of it's showings, but it never looked like something that was on the brink of cancellation. Even visually, it seemed leaps and bounds ahead of other Platinum games in terms of polish, something you never associate with them otherwise.

I'm having a hard time even remembering the last AA or AAA game to get cancelled. Was it that EA basketball game that one year?

Something must have happened. Maybe they've been running super behind and over budget or it's been focus testing horribly (I imagine it would with how the protagonist is designed relative to the rest of the game) or what?

 

[wanders]

Y'all better blow up Twitter for this. Microsoft can't be getting sway with this all the time

 

[Sapientas]

This is a huge win for me TBH
(Since I've never bought a MS console, never will)
Platimun will probably never, ever make any exclusives with M.S ever again.

So any if not all Platinum games will go to Sony.
It's a great win for me and Sony.

* Finger's crossed PS4 get this exclusive -just change the name.

dragonzdogma finally got banned and it's over this? Such a gross attitude to have. Zero perspective for the industry you so love.

 

[Zee-Row]

Does this news put Platinum in a bad light?

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Many of you are bringing up Phantom Dust. I've heard nothing about it and thought it was still coming out?

It is. At least as far as we know. What they are referring to is the version that was originally announced which would have been a ground up remake. Basically the original game but probably with some new stuff thrown in and with gameplay tweaks on the table for modern day. That version was cancelled. What's coming now is essentially a remaster.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

That's a shame. Lots of people have been waiting for this game for some time. I hope the devs land ok.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

It's a big blow to the Xbox line up. Honestly there's a serious lack of single player story driven games. Well, exclusive ones at least. Everything is literally MP focused. Forza 7, State of Decay, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown...(and I've heard Crackdown isn't going too hot either, though nothing as bad as this).

Unless they have a bunch of first party studios secretly tucked away somewhere (which they don't that I know of), I genuinely struggle to think of what surprises they could have at E3 *as of right now*. Halo 6 is to be expected, and I don't see publishers playing ball much anymore with 3rd party exclusives unless Microsoft gives the Xbox division a huge budget to throw cash around, which I highly doubt. Their major first party IP are on a decline with Halo doing less than before and Gears 4 not selling that well at all relatively speaking (not good enough to sustain a huge studio with that many workers and budget).

What's happening now is the exact opposite of what Xbox fans seemed to want out of a Phil spencer leadership.

I remember when he became head of Xbox and everyone was saying how there'll be tons of new games, but they're still coasting on announcements from 2013-2014 and in that time, games have been cancelled, multiple studios closed including Lionhead...

As a big Xbox fan since day one, I'm not very hopeful for the future. Scorpio won't do anything without software to push it heavily.

Yeah, things are not going well over there at all.

 

[jayu26]

Is Below still a thing? Pls say yes.

Not a MS Ip and is likely coming to PS4 as well.

Just hopeful for a Scorpio release instead of xbo.

The sooner some of accept that Scorpio is not a new generation but just a more powerful Xbox One the better you will be. They have now confirmed this multiple times.

 

[vala]

Kamiya hasn't been active on Twitter since December 28th...

Same thing with the producer...

https://twitter.com/pg_jp

 

[Obliterator]

It's a big blow to the Xbox line up. Honestly there's a serious lack of single player story driven games. Well, exclusive ones at least. Everything is literally MP focused. Forza 7, State of Decay, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown...(and I've heard Crackdown isn't going too hot either, though nothing as bad as this).

Unless they have a bunch of first party studios secretly tucked away somewhere (which they don't that I know of), I genuinely struggle to think of what surprises they could have at E3 *as of right now*. Halo 6 is to be expected, and I don't see publishers playing ball much anymore with 3rd party exclusives unless Microsoft gives the Xbox division a huge budget to throw cash around, which I highly doubt. Their major first party IP are on a decline with Halo doing less than before and Gears 4 not selling that well at all relatively speaking (not good enough to sustain a huge studio with that many workers and budget).

What's happening now is the exact opposite of what Xbox fans seemed to want out of a Phil spencer leadership.

I remember when he became head of Xbox and everyone was saying how there'll be tons of new games, but they're still coasting on announcements from 2013-2014 and in that time, games have been cancelled, multiple studios closed including Lionhead...

As a big Xbox fan since day one, I'm not very hopeful for the future. Scorpio won't do anything without software to push it heavily.

It really does feel like the Xbox division is just in a bizarre / bad place.

All things considered the Xbone is still actually performing very well in the US despite its disastrous performance in the rest of the world. But yeah it seems Spencer's leadership hasn't really brought anything near what many were hoping / expecting. The entire portfolio and vision of the company just seems disconnected.

Sad to see after what was maybe my all time favorite console the Xbox 360.

 

[bidguy]

ms honestly doesnt seem to have any exclusives coming, they havent announced new shit in ages.

halo 6 better be good

 

[Head.spawn]

It certainly sucks to hear that this game is cancelled, but it certainly sucks a lot more to hear Kamiya isn't doing well; hope he takes all the time he needs to get better.

 

[Samurai G0SU]

It's a big blow to the Xbox line up. Honestly there's a serious lack of single player story driven games. Well, exclusive ones at least. Everything is literally MP focused. Forza 7, State of Decay, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown...(and I've heard Crackdown isn't going too hot either, though nothing as bad as this).

Unless they have a bunch of first party studios secretly tucked away somewhere (which they don't that I know of), I genuinely struggle to think of what surprises they could have at E3 *as of right now*. Halo 6 is to be expected, and I don't see publishers playing ball much anymore with 3rd party exclusives unless Microsoft gives the Xbox division a huge budget to throw cash around, which I highly doubt. Their major first party IP are on a decline with Halo doing less than before and Gears 4 not selling that well at all relatively speaking (not good enough to sustain a huge studio with that many workers and budget).

What's happening now is the exact opposite of what Xbox fans seemed to want out of a Phil spencer leadership.

I remember when he became head of Xbox and everyone was saying how there'll be tons of new games, but they're still coasting on announcements from 2013-2014 and in that time, games have been cancelled, multiple studios closed including Lionhead...

As a big Xbox fan since day one, I'm not very hopeful for the future. Scorpio won't do anything without software to push it heavily.

I agree ... After each item with closing studios and cancelled games, it does worry me. I guess i will be excited for halo 6 teaser at e3, but it really is going to become a system of its meme. "halo, forza, gears console" ....

 

[HighResTomato]

So this E3 they are just going to show more CG trailers and announce more games that will come out in 2020?

 

[wapplew]

Watch Microsoft gesture towards some vague unknown surprises in 2017 in their statement, attempting to put a quick band-aid on the wound.

Guess i'm going to have to buy Nier just to show support to Platinum this year.

Some third party games going to get 1 year exclusive treatment.

 

[arts&crafts]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

How do you have a gif as an avatar????

I just noticed this!!!!

I mod gave it to him and changed his name, he was constantly bashing Canada. I forget what thread it was in though.

 

[Chris1]

I would think Gears 4 had been started before Spencer took over, otherwise it had a brilliantly fast development time for an AAA game. Crackdown was announced at E3 2014, so Mattrick was probably the one who laid the first steps for that project, otherwise it would have been conceived within three months.

I added Recore in before you quoted me.

Gears 4 was a quick turnaround 2.5 years I think which would put it right at the start of Phil taking over. Some of the work was already done by Epic which TC continued on from (not sure how old this was though), so it's not 2.5 years total but yeah. The Gears 4 we know today is Phil I believe.

 

[Spieler Eins]

things

Is this a meme or are you trying to force one?

 

[Spirited]

Putting this in screencap form so it doesn't go unnoticed (source is a Persona Central writer)

Saddening news if this is true.

This is very sad news
Wishing Kamiya all the best and hoping he'll be able to come back feeling better.

 

[Freeman76]

Looked shit anyway

 

[HotHamBoy]

You can't be this far gone.

Let him go. He is lost.

 

[Kickz]

And then nobody buys it again. Cant blame them for being reluctant with that,

So what, many cult classics that undersell get sequels.

Insomniac can get on this after Spidey game

 

[offshore]

Jez from Windows Central said he received a statement from MS 10 minutes ago and to stay tuned

I am out of the loop or are press embargoes on IP cancellations a thing, these days?

 

[Diprosalic]

So this E3 they are just going to show more CG trailers and announce more games that will never come out?

fixed that for you

 

[get2sammyb]

Scalebound was Mattrick.

Wasn't Phil Spencer head of Microsoft Studios prior to his current role, though? You're saying he'd have had no role in signing a major first-party game in either of his positions?

 

[DAREALGUMMY]

Really considering selling my xbox rn. I only have it for the exclusives and at this moment
there isn't a single one on the horizon that i care about.
And there hasn't been one in a while. Well except for the welcome suprise that was Forza horizon 3

Yeah I'm feeling the same. Got it for Gears 4 and barely feel the need to play it since friends who have had it, moved on.

I'd like to think they're just shelving it for Scorpio instead. The rumours about Kamiya's health issues are a concern though.

Wouldn't they just say it's being delayed or moving on?k

 

[Theorry]

Y'all better blow up Twitter for this. Microsoft can't be getting sway with this all the time

There are always two sides to a story. Doubt that they would have cancelled a very good game.

 

[Ray Down]

What t-shirt is he wearing when he says this?

 

[robotrock]

Is this a meme or are you trying to force one?

He's doing some stupid meme from Gone Girl. I saw it on gaf once about a picture of ben affleck.

 

[JP]

Jesus, there's some horrible comments in here.

 

[Arklite]

Do people realize that the Scorpio is still an Xbox One??

I guess some don't. The Scorpio doesn't need some kind of next generation line up to be successful. Still, losing a big game like Scalebound is another loss for the console. I hope we get more news on what exactly happened in development.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Get well soon Mr Kamiya

 

[Canucked]

I was intrigued by the first reveal, then a little turned off by the multiplayer stuff shown. But now just a little let down that it's not gonna show. Such is life.

 

[ezekial45]

It's a big blow to the Xbox line up. Honestly there's a serious lack of single player story driven games. Well, exclusive ones at least. Everything is literally MP focused. Forza 7, State of Decay, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown...(and I've heard Crackdown isn't going too hot either, though nothing as bad as this).

Unless they have a bunch of first party studios secretly tucked away somewhere (which they don't that I know of), I genuinely struggle to think of what surprises they could have at E3 *as of right now*. Halo 6 is to be expected, and I don't see publishers playing ball much anymore with 3rd party exclusives unless Microsoft gives the Xbox division a huge budget to throw cash around, which I highly doubt. Their major first party IP are on a decline with Halo doing less than before and Gears 4 not selling that well at all relatively speaking (not good enough to sustain a huge studio with that many workers and budget).

What's happening now is the exact opposite of what Xbox fans seemed to want out of a Phil spencer leadership.

I remember when he became head of Xbox and everyone was saying how there'll be tons of new games, but they're still coasting on announcements from 2013-2014 and in that time, games have been cancelled, multiple studios closed including Lionhead...

As a big Xbox fan since day one, I'm not very hopeful for the future. Scorpio won't do anything without software to push it heavily.

Yeah, it's a really poor period now. With the Scorpio coming up soon too, it's gonna be really hard to justify purchasing it without any dedicated titles. I see them doing a suite of remasters to try and make up for it, but I don't see any other way out of this besides fast-tracking some exclusive titles.

 

[ackl]

Is this a meme or are you trying to force one?

Check his tag.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

I am out of the loop or are press embargoes on IP cancellations a thing, these days?

What? Of course companies set times for statements to go public.

 

[FunkyPajamas]

You mean like Rime? Or Stig's Santa Monica project? Or the Studio San Diego game that was canned like 3 months ago? This is a part of the business. You guys are just trying to create your own narratives around "Good guy" and "bad guy" companies and executives and it's dumb.

Thank you. Everybody cancels games for different reasons if the bottom line is being affected. Has nothing to do with "for gamers" or whatever console wars ammo some people are trying to use.

 

[butman]

Was Kamiya behind Nier Automata at some point?

 

[jayu26]

I'm so much happier now that I'm dead. Technically missing. Soon to be presumed dead. Gone.

And this lazy oblivious and incompetent "Microsoft" company will go to prison for my murder. They took my pride and my dignity and my hope and my money. They took and took from me until I no longer existed. That's murder. Let the punishment fit the crime. To fake a convincing release date for Scale-fucking-bound you have to have discipline. You befriend a local foold, Platinum Games. Harvest the details of his hundrum life and cram him with stories about how development will be "doing fine", how the the game will soon be playable from start to finish. Secretly create some money troubles: forced online co-op, micotransactions, western bullshit. With the help of the unwitting, you bump up your life insurance. Purchase the Xbox One. With the Elite Controller. Generic. Overpriced. Pay cash. You need to package yourself so that people will truly mourn your loss. And I don't know how much you know about Japan, but they truly believe in honor, it's an important part of their culture... You know what's hard? Faking your excitement for this game. First, you pretend to follow all the dishearting news about this trainwerk of a game. Watch every damn E3 showing. From the first CGi vaporware trailer. Wake up at fucking 3.a.m, June 2016 just to see how this game has been resorted to a How To Train a Flying Potato simulator. Then you steal a Recore copy. And you pretend to like it. Voila! The game is nothing like you wanted. You wasted 60 dollars. Happy 3th Anniversary of this game's announcement. But then you go on NeoGAF, and post "wow I loved the E3 demo, MS is doing a great job " while you dry off the tears running down your face. Wait for the clueless director to announce the release date. Off he goes... and the clock is ticking. 20 weeks away from the release day and they haven't even shown final console footage yet. You feel fisically ill. A lot. A lot. A lot. You start to post about how the game is likely being saved for Scorpio How the game still retains that Hideki Kamiya-sama magic, even though you know deep in yourself that's one hell of a lie. June. E3 starts and they fucking bring a broken demo on stage. "Well, Platinum has never made a bad game, so there's no reason not to trust them". I repeat to myself. But everyone else playing the demo booths agrees that it is just bad. And because you're you, you don't stop there. You go back. To the day this fucking game was announced. Start with the fairy-tale days. The biggest Xbox One exclusive. A system seller title. From the creator of Resident Evil 2 and Bayonetta. Those are true. After that, you invent. "Scalebound was supposed to relive the Xbox brand" "X1 would likely outsell PS4 when this game gets released... at least in the US" The spending, the abuse, the fear, the threat of violence... burn it, just the right amount. Make sure the fans will find it. Finally, honor tradition with a very special treasure hunt. And if I get everything right, the world will hate Microsoft for killing his beautiful, legacy franchise. And after all the outrage, when I'm ready, I'll go out on to GameStop and buy a Playstation 4 + NieR: Automata bundle. And when my mother finds me investing my precious time trying to bond with this hot anime girl, I'll look straight into her eyes and say "but have you looked at her butt? Have your really looked at her butt?" In that very moment, she knows. She fucking knows. As she handles me the nugget pieces she previously cooked for me, she leaves my room with these words: "NierR is the true savior of Platinum Games". And that's when the people will know, Microsoft dumped Scalebound like garbage, and it floated past all the other abused, unwanted, inconvenient titles like Phantom Dust and Fable: Legends. The Scalebound fans will be gone, but then... we never really existed. We loved a game we pretended to like.

"An Xbox One exclusive".

Gamers always use that, don't they? As their defining compliment: "Quantum Break is a true Xbox exclusive". A true Xbox One exclusive is hot. A true Xbox One exclusive is game. A true Xbox One exclusive is fun. A true Xbox One exclusive never makes its fans angry. It only smiles in a chagrined, loving manner. The Platinum Game fans like what they like, so evidently they're vinyl hipsters who loves fetish Manga. If they like girls gone wild, Claire Redfield was a good example of empowering woman design. Bayonetta is sexist trash.. When I met Phil Spencer I knew he wanted "true Xbox Exclusive experience". And for him, I'll admit: Scalebound truly was it. He created an empty development funded by vapor and nothingness. Microsoft rewrote the concept to fit those Sony esclusive games everyone loves. They put headphones into the game because we all love headphones. They showed the game, semi-regularly. I lived in the moment. The same dragon portion for three years. I was fuckinging game. I can't say I didn't enjoy some of it. Microsoft teased out in me things I didn't know existed. A lightness, a humor, an ease. But I made them smarter. Sharper. I inspired them to rise to my level. I forged the company of my dreams. We were happy pretending to be other people. We were the happiest couple we knew. And what's the point of being together if you're not the happiest? But Platinum got lazy and Microsoft stubborn. They delayed the game. Microsoft actually expected me to love support their Xbox console unconditionally. And before finishing with Platinum, they delayed the game another time. From Holiday 2016, to simply "2017". We knew it was coming. We knew that what the press sneaks were telling us, was true.

You think I'd let Microsoft destroy me and end up happier than ever?

No fucking way.

They don't get to win. I don't know how much the rest of you know about social culture (I'm an expert), but grown-ups work for things. Grown-ups pay.

Grown-ups suffer consequences.

I actually read the whole thing. Congratulations, I suppose.

 

[ChosenPredator]

So this E3 they are just going to show more CG trailers and announce more games that will come out in 2020?

They have to know now that everyone is going to be doubting the crap out of whatever they show, and it'll become some sort of meme to mention "scalebound"...whatever they show needs to actually be coming out


IM not really sure what happened to BELOW and CUPHEAD either...

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Was Kamiya behind Nier Automata at some point?

Nope.

 

[TalonJH]

Hope it's not true. I know a lot of people were looking forward to it.

Putting this in screencap form so it doesn't go unnoticed (source is a Persona Central writer)

Saddening news if this is true.

Best wishes to Kamiya if true.

 

[sam777]

It's a big blow to the Xbox line up. Honestly there's a serious lack of single player story driven games. Well, exclusive ones at least. Everything is literally MP focused. Forza 7, State of Decay, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown...(and I've heard Crackdown isn't going too hot either, though nothing as bad as this).

Unless they have a bunch of first party studios secretly tucked away somewhere (which they don't that I know of), I genuinely struggle to think of what surprises they could have at E3 *as of right now*. Halo 6 is to be expected, and I don't see publishers playing ball much anymore with 3rd party exclusives unless Microsoft gives the Xbox division a huge budget to throw cash around, which I highly doubt. Their major first party IP are on a decline with Halo doing less than before and Gears 4 not selling that well at all relatively speaking (not good enough to sustain a huge studio with that many workers and budget).

What's happening now is the exact opposite of what Xbox fans seemed to want out of a Phil spencer leadership.

I remember when he became head of Xbox and everyone was saying how there'll be tons of new games, but they're still coasting on announcements from 2013-2014 and in that time, games have been cancelled, multiple studios closed including Lionhead...

As a big Xbox fan since day one, I'm not very hopeful for the future. Scorpio won't do anything without software to push it heavily.

Spot on. I don't understand how they can't churn out a wide range of first party games like Sony does and tbh most of the Sony games don't appeal to me but you got to give them credit the way they release games in many different genre's.

 

[DopeyFish]

My guess: looks like project was going sideways on platinum in a hurry and started missing a lot of deadlines

situation wasn't improving and MS saw what was going on and decided enough was enough.

Some times one big misstep can doom a project and you don't realize it was a misstep until later on in the process.

 

[hughesta]

I'm less upset about Scalebound than I am concerned for Platinum. Hopefully we get something from them at the Switch event...

 

[Mediking]

I'm so much happier now that I'm dead. Technically missing. Soon to be presumed dead. Gone.

And this lazy oblivious and incompetent "Microsoft" company will go to prison for my murder. They took my pride and my dignity and my hope and my money. They took and took from me until I no longer existed. That's murder. Let the punishment fit the crime. To fake a convincing release date for Scale-fucking-bound you have to have discipline. You befriend a local foold, Platinum Games. Harvest the details of his hundrum life and cram him with stories about how development will be "doing fine", how the the game will soon be playable from start to finish. Secretly create some money troubles: forced online co-op, micotransactions, western bullshit. With the help of the unwitting, you bump up your life insurance. Purchase the Xbox One. With the Elite Controller. Generic. Overpriced. Pay cash. You need to package yourself so that people will truly mourn your loss. And I don't know how much you know about Japan, but they truly believe in honor, it's an important part of their culture... You know what's hard? Faking your excitement for this game. First, you pretend to follow all the dishearting news about this trainwerk of a game. Watch every damn E3 showing. From the first CGi vaporware trailer. Wake up at fucking 3.a.m, June 2016 just to see how this game has been resorted to a How To Train a Flying Potato simulator. Then you steal a Recore copy. And you pretend to like it. Voila! The game is nothing like you wanted. You wasted 60 dollars. Happy 3th Anniversary of this game's announcement. But then you go on NeoGAF, and post "wow I loved the E3 demo, MS is doing a great job " while you dry off the tears running down your face. Wait for the clueless director to announce the release date. Off he goes... and the clock is ticking. 20 weeks away from the release day and they haven't even shown final console footage yet. You feel fisically ill. A lot. A lot. A lot. You start to post about how the game is likely being saved for Scorpio How the game still retains that Hideki Kamiya-sama magic, even though you know deep in yourself that's one hell of a lie. June. E3 starts and they fucking bring a broken demo on stage. "Well, Platinum has never made a bad game, so there's no reason not to trust them". I repeat to myself. But everyone else playing the demo booths agrees that it is just bad. And because you're you, you don't stop there. You go back. To the day this fucking game was announced. Start with the fairy-tale days. The biggest Xbox One exclusive. A system seller title. From the creator of Resident Evil 2 and Bayonetta. Those are true. After that, you invent. "Scalebound was supposed to relive the Xbox brand" "X1 would likely outsell PS4 when this game gets released... at least in the US" The spending, the abuse, the fear, the threat of violence... burn it, just the right amount. Make sure the fans will find it. Finally, honor tradition with a very special treasure hunt. And if I get everything right, the world will hate Microsoft for killing his beautiful, legacy franchise. And after all the outrage, when I'm ready, I'll go out on to GameStop and buy a Playstation 4 + NieR: Automata bundle. And when my mother finds me investing my precious time trying to bond with this hot anime girl, I'll look straight into her eyes and say "but have you looked at her butt? Have your really looked at her butt?" In that very moment, she knows. She fucking knows. As she handles me the nugget pieces she previously cooked for me, she leaves my room with these words: "NierR is the true savior of Platinum Games". And that's when the people will know, Microsoft dumped Scalebound like garbage, and it floated past all the other abused, unwanted, inconvenient titles like Phantom Dust and Fable: Legends. The Scalebound fans will be gone, but then... we never really existed. We loved a game we pretended to like.

"An Xbox One exclusive".

Gamers always use that, don't they? As their defining compliment: "Quantum Break is a true Xbox exclusive". A true Xbox One exclusive is hot. A true Xbox One exclusive is game. A true Xbox One exclusive is fun. A true Xbox One exclusive never makes its fans angry. It only smiles in a chagrined, loving manner. The Platinum Game fans like what they like, so evidently they're vinyl hipsters who loves fetish Manga. If they like girls gone wild, Claire Redfield was a good example of empowering woman design. Bayonetta is sexist trash.. When I met Phil Spencer I knew he wanted "true Xbox Exclusive experience". And for him, I'll admit: Scalebound truly was it. He created an empty development funded by vapor and nothingness. Microsoft rewrote the concept to fit those Sony esclusive games everyone loves. They put headphones into the game because we all love headphones. They showed the game, semi-regularly. I lived in the moment. The same dragon portion for three years. I was fuckinging game. I can't say I didn't enjoy some of it. Microsoft teased out in me things I didn't know existed. A lightness, a humor, an ease. But I made them smarter. Sharper. I inspired them to rise to my level. I forged the company of my dreams. We were happy pretending to be other people. We were the happiest couple we knew. And what's the point of being together if you're not the happiest? But Platinum got lazy and Microsoft stubborn. They delayed the game. Microsoft actually expected me to love support their Xbox console unconditionally. And before finishing with Platinum, they delayed the game another time. From Holiday 2016, to simply "2017". We knew it was coming. We knew that what the press sneaks were telling us, was true.

You think I'd let Microsoft destroy me and end up happier than ever?

No fucking way.

They don't get to win. I don't know how much the rest of you know about social culture (I'm an expert), but grown-ups work for things. Grown-ups pay.

Grown-ups suffer consequences.

You're seconds away from being put into the same boat as Lights Waves or Lights and Waves or something.

 

[n0razi]

This was the only game that made me consider a Scorpio in the future... glad I stuck with the PS4 Pro now