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Nintendo Switch doesn't support Optical Audio out....

I'm still surprised that Sony removed Optical Audio Out on the PS4 Slim, you would have to either buy a Pro or the OG model which both have it.

Just doesn't seem like that big of a deal for them, even though a lot of peripherals designed for the system require it.
 
I'm still surprised that Sony removed Optical Audio Out on the PS4 Slim, you would have to either buy a Pro or the OG model to get it.

Just doesn't seem like that big of a deal for them, even though a lot of peripherals designed for the system require it.

By a lot, you mean enthusiast headphones?
 
By a lot, you mean enthusiast headphones?

Any half decent pair, yes.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, my surround sound requires it too.

Most tvs have optical outs still so

That's a fine solution if you only use your headphones for game audio, but if you use it for party chat as well, you're out of luck.

Though with how Nintendo are handling their party chat for the Switch, that's the least of our worries.
 
That makes your A/V receiver anywhere from 12 to 18 years old, by my reckoning. Is it a super expensive, high quality receiver you're not keen to upgrade on? Newer ones have a lot of other features besides HDMI inputs that are really worthwhile.

So Nintendo expects us to spend $300 on a "console" that doesn't include a game (and pay extra to use it online), $70 or more on extra controllers, a few hundred for a new AV receiver, and we have to buy a new smartphone just for chatting, friending, and matchmaking?

If I have to get a third job just to pay for all this crap, it doesn't leave any time for playing the Switch. Or sleeping.
 
So unless your receivers are HDMI 2.0a or 2.1 compliant and HDCP 2.2 compliant your receivers are about to be outdated too.

I am not going to buy an HDMI receiver at this point in time only be outdated in a year, right now is really not a good time to upgrade for us people with optical setups/non HDMI receivers.
 
Yes I think the OP is allowed to ask about optical audio out in 2017 because the same Home Console is using game cards.

cutting edge and superior standards are funny comments because PS4 Pro support it.

This might be the most disappointing comment in a most disappointing thread.
 
...and it doesnt matter.

Sure it doesn't.

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Some people still prefer to use the best (well, best for the money anyway until you reach the Smyth Realiser levels and price) headphone solution for 5.1 when, or if speakers just aren't an option. Until recently, the HDMI splitters were all hot garbage, and would only output in 2ch stereo too. Maybe a $50 adapter will do the trick now, but that's still an additonal $50 for a feature that's still common with home consoles.

An optical port on a tablet sounds amazingly ridiculous

Yes, but then so does hooking up a tablet to a stereo, which I'm not sure is what the OP was after.
 
So unless your receivers are HDMI 2.0a or 2.1 compliant and HDCP 2.2 compliant your receivers are about to be outdated too.

I am not going to buy an HDMI receiver at this point in time only be outdated in a year, right now is really not a good time to upgrade for us people with optical setups/non HDMI receivers.

But you run this risk with most technology
 
Everyone in this thread suggesting hdmi splitters/extractors or routing optical out of the TV has no idea what they're talking about.

The real issue is that the switch doesn't support any Dolby Formats, just like the WiiU. LCPM 5.1 only. Which doesn't *fit* through an optical cable. And no downconverters exist. So if you have an optical setup, stereo is all you're going to get.

Before anyone says that optical = outdated hardware, that's not necessarily true. I have a Sonos playbar with sub and rears, it's still being sold, very high quality and $1700 new.
 
To be honest, I'm kind of perpetually amazed that Nintendo's systems support surround sound in the first place. I mean, I'm not complaining, it just seems unlike them.

The real issue is that the switch doesn't support any Dolby Formats, just like the WiiU. LCPM 5.1 only. Which doesn't *fit* through an optical cable. And no downconverters exist. So if you have an optical setup, stereo is all you're going to get.
So isn't that exactly why Nintendo doesn't/can't include an optical port?
 
To be honest, I'm kind of perpetually amazed that Nintendo's systems support surround sound in the first place. I mean, I'm not complaining, it just seems unlike them.


So isn't that exactly why Nintendo doesn't/can't include an optical port?

There would be no point in including an optical port without also adding support for Dolby formats, yes.
This thread should be renamed to "Nintendo switch has no 5.1 sound for optical-based sound system"
 
So Nintendo expects us to spend $300 on a "console" that doesn't include a game (and pay extra to use it online), $70 or more on extra controllers, a few hundred for a new AV receiver, and we have to buy a new smartphone just for chatting, friending, and matchmaking?

If I have to get a third job just to pay for all this crap, it doesn't leave any time for playing the Switch. Or sleeping.
Seems appropriate.
 
whoa, whoa, whoa, you're telling me when my Switch and I travel back in time to the 90s, I'm going to have to ALSO take a converter? And the converter doesn't even come pacakaged in? get real, Nintendo.
 
Does the Switch at least support bluetooth audio?

It won't be good enough for audiophiles, but good enough for my needs.
 
My Vizio soundbar does not have HDMI, only optical. Will I be ok getting an HDMI splitter, and connecting the Switch to the TV via HDMI, while then using the splitter to run HDMI to optical for the soundbar? Apologies if this has already been answered earlier in the thread.
 
But to get the best experience, they really should support component out too, for crt tv's, because there's inherent lag in lcd's. To get the optimal experience for a genre of games no longer produced.

Luckily the WiiU has a legacy out so when the HDMI port on my WiiU died, I fished out an old Wii component cable and connected it to TV for 1080p signal. Bummed out that its not pristine IQ like over HDMI but its better than a dead weight.
 
My Vizio soundbar does not have HDMI, only optical. Will I be ok getting an HDMI splitter, and connecting the Switch to the TV via HDMI, while then using the splitter to run HDMI to optical for the soundbar? Apologies if this has already been answered earlier in the thread.
I've been wondering the same thing.
 
My Vizio soundbar does not have HDMI, only optical. Will I be ok getting an HDMI splitter, and connecting the Switch to the TV via HDMI, while then using the splitter to run HDMI to optical for the soundbar? Apologies if this has already been answered earlier in the thread.

Yes, this will work, BUT

... It will be stereo only. Optical doesn't have the necessary bandwidth to fit LCPM 5.1, which is all that the switch supports. Dolby Digital 5.1 is a compressed format that fits through optical, but Nintendo isn't supporting it, presumably to save money on licensing fees.
 
Do they make gaming headsets that do surround sound over hdmi?

My turtle beach headset takes optical. I usually have hdmi to avr and an optical also going out to the turtle beaches.

Maybe there is a better way for me to do that.
 
I live in a tiny apartment and it's not exactly conducive to having an optimal surround sound set up. That and when I would use it, it's late at night, and would wake up my neighbors. So headphones have been serving me fine.

But for those that say use a DAC, which would you recommend and would it offer simulated surround? I find it useful for directionality purposes in games with a X-Fi Titanium HD on my PC and a DSS2 for consoles. Using a pair of Philips X2s.
 
Yes, this will work, BUT

... It will be stereo only. Optical doesn't have the necessary bandwidth to fit LCPM 5.1, which is all that the switch supports. Dolby Digital 5.1 is a compressed format that fits through optical, but Nintendo isn't supporting it, presumably to save money on licensing fees.



Yea, this I knew. Sucks but as long as I get sound from the Soundbar, I'll manage. I live in a small NYC apartment so I don't need a booming sound experience anyway. Thank you for the response.
 
I was hoping there'd be component out -- I'll have to buy an HDMI audio splitter or something to use my monitors with the Switch.
 
When blu-rays came we knew that it was a standard. They didn't update the format or the cables every year.

This HDMI 2.1 thing is fucking dumb and should be illegal.

Actually this is completely wrong..Not only DID they update cables back then...They updated bluray "profiles" multiple times...which made your entire BD player obsolete...
 
I paid $300+ for this system (it still sells for that much) and it works great so I am not looking to replace it any time soon.

good for you. If it doesn't have HDMI you are missing out on all the high definition audio formats and 1080p, so that sucks.

Just get a splitter.

no Nintendo console has ever had an optical out. Wii U was the first with HDMI, even.

Actually this is completely wrong..Not only DID they update cables back then...They updated bluray "profiles" multiple times...which made your entire BD player obsolete...

No. Cables don't matter. It's the output of the system. The whole cable thing is a lie.

Also you could update your Bluray players with new profiles, which I did a lot back then with my Pioneer.
 
So can I tangent this thread to ask: as someone with consoles and pc in the living room (apartment so space is a concern), what's the move? My current speakers are just Logitech z5500, so they don't even support hdmi. Are there small footprint receivers I should look into? Time to ditch the speakers and upgrade? Sound card with hdmi out will be needed for the pc I guess?

I usually go all out on video, so I apologize for knowing nothing about audio.
 
It doesn't support digital coaxial, component or s-video either. Consoles have been doing audio over HDMI for over a decade and it's been clear which way things are going. Time to upgrade.

I dont really get the "its old!" posts. I mean, sure, its old, but both PS4 and Xbox One have it. I'm pretty sure that both Xbox Scorpio and PS5 will also have it.

Agreed.

I use optical still. People are talking as if it is the Kempston interface....
 
My Vizio soundbar does not have HDMI, only optical. Will I be ok getting an HDMI splitter, and connecting the Switch to the TV via HDMI, while then using the splitter to run HDMI to optical for the soundbar? Apologies if this has already been answered earlier in the thread.

Why would you have to run a splitter with that setup? On my TV, I can run several components to it (via hdmi) and then run my soundbar via optical to the TV as well no problem. I don't understand why that would require a splitter.

So can I tangent this thread to ask: as someone with consoles and pc in the living room (apartment so space is a concern), what's the move? My current speakers are just Logitech z5500, so they don't even support hdmi. Are there small footprint receivers I should look into? Time to ditch the speakers and upgrade? Sound card with hdmi out will be needed for the pc I guess?

I usually go all out on video, so I apologize for knowing nothing about audio.


If you can't go the receiver route with 5/7.1 etc, I would look into a soundbar with a hdmi out and multiple hdmi inputs.

An example - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-2-...eless-subwoofer-black/3953235.p?skuId=3953235

Run your TV/monitor to that and then hook your pc and other consoles up with the hdmi inputs.

I don't think this option is very cheap for the quality you'll get. For $400 you could get a 5.1 setup with a receiver and more inputs that would sound superior. You could also look into an hdmi switch which I don't know how reliable those are.
 
Why does the console even do 5.1 to begin with? The vast majority of people simply use their TV audio so I'd rather Nintendo just stick to stereo and make the console cheaper. There's no point in having something that only a few people can use.

Between the HDR thread and now this, that's what some of you guys sound like.
 
I have an optical audio out directly from my TV specifically for Wii U. All of my other consoles I run optical audio direct from the console. I'm not that surprised I'll have to keep doing the same thing with the Switch.
 
You guys here pretend as if optical audio devices have been phased out. When high end (for gaming) headsets from Turtlebeach and Astro still use optical for even their latest 2016 models it means it's still the standard rather than an old technology that's phased out or is starting to be phased out.

Consoles have supported the superior HDMI audiontil dince PS3 but until these high end manufacturers of audio headsets switch to HDMI atleast for their flagship models, optical is still the standard.

Wont they switch to usb-c anyway?
 
I currently run my consoles via hdmi into the tv then use the optical out on the TV to the sound system. Am I doing it wrong?
 
I currently run my consoles via hdmi into the tv then use the optical out on the TV to the sound system. Am I doing it wrong?

I have done this yes. Especially for over the air tv. The tuner is built into the TV, but I need surround sound, and the TV doesn't out HDMI out. So optical!
 
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