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Nier: Automata PC performance thread
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TheSpoiler
Member
Damn about to try this shit. It ran okay, but some areas would drop to 40fps and one of the bosses chugged the game down to 20. To be fair, I have a very garbage setup.
TyrantGuardian
Member
Fuck me, I didn't know downsampling doesn't work in borderless unless you change monitor resolution first
Also, if I downsample, there's no point in AA correct?
Downsampling is AA on steroids essentially. You can combine it with other forms of AA if you want, and other AA will be more performance efficient, but it also looks the best.
Sounds good. Thanks!
As it been said multiple times, the AO option in-game includes a pretty good post-processing AA, so as long as that option is turned on, there's actually no need for external forms of AA.
(Though for someone that wants to use an external form of AO, an external form of AA will be needed too).
Robobandit
Member
tell us your specs and we'll let you know.
PS4 Pro does not maintain a perfect 60 fps in all situations either, just fyi.
It's a great port with a couple of niggling bugs. One is an easy fix (open in windowed mode and then use Borderless Gaming). The other appears to be an encoding problem with the prerendered cutscenes causing them to stutter, and hopefully will be fixed.
If you have a good rig, I say go for it. Especially if you can install it on an SSD.
Turn off AA if you aren't happy with performance - it's MSAA and expensive.
Admittedly I've yet to go through this thread with a fine-tooth comb, but one of the tips/tricks in the OP is how to use a less expensive form of AA and nobody has explicitly pointed out to me that this is unnecessary even though the section ends with a very conspicuous recommendation to mention my name if it ought to be adjusted, so perhaps consider cutting me a little slack.
SapphiCine
Member
Even with the FPS capped at 59 there is still some stuttering but better than capping at 60. The cutscene stuttering is really bad. I really hope SE contracts them to fix this issue along with others. Overall I had good performance on my rig through the intro mission.
My rig
OS: Windows 10
GPU: GTX 970
CPU: i7 4790k
RAM: 16 GB
My rig
OS: Windows 10
GPU: GTX 970
CPU: i7 4790k
RAM: 16 GB
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I hope they patch this before I finish Zelda. The cutscene stuttering is really annoying.
JoeyJungle
Banned
So, um, I just reseated my heatsink and my frametimes doubled. I'm getting 40ms frametimes on a 980ti instead of the 20ms I was averaging before.
Anyone know what the fuck I just did? Temps on the CPU are much lower than before btw.
Edit: Nevermind, it seems like it was some weird displayport/gsync handshake thing, I think it's because I plugged my monitor into a different port than I was using before. I lowered my refreshed rate and then bumped it back up, everything seems normal now!
Anyone know what the fuck I just did? Temps on the CPU are much lower than before btw.
Edit: Nevermind, it seems like it was some weird displayport/gsync handshake thing, I think it's because I plugged my monitor into a different port than I was using before. I lowered my refreshed rate and then bumped it back up, everything seems normal now!
Sorry, didn't mean to sound rude. ^^;
Can still keep a mention for external forms of AA for those that don't want to use the in-game AO option.
May as well respost this too, comparing AO turned on and off.
AA off / AO on compared to AA off / AO off:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/203877
No harm, no foul. <3
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Pretty much yeah.
KainXVIII
Member
Seems like easy job for GTX 1080, crank some setting up.
SapphiCine
Member
I read a suggestion elsewhere to turn on v-sync even when using Borderless Gaming to help reduce stutter. I think it really does help.
I finally made it to the more open city areas and maintaining 60 FPS has become more difficult in spots.
I finally made it to the more open city areas and maintaining 60 FPS has become more difficult in spots.
god damn this game is pretty man
keep in mind that the game on my end is pushing 95% gpu utilization sometimes, and this is with the gpu overclocked, lol
for witcher 3 yeah, you can get 60fps without hairworks like mifec said, might need to turn down shadows or foliage for consistent framerate I think? but that game has a lot of options, can use the nvidia guide to turn down stuff where you barely notice a difference:
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide
keep in mind that the game on my end is pushing 95% gpu utilization sometimes, and this is with the gpu overclocked, lol
for witcher 3 yeah, you can get 60fps without hairworks like mifec said, might need to turn down shadows or foliage for consistent framerate I think? but that game has a lot of options, can use the nvidia guide to turn down stuff where you barely notice a difference:
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide
paperspace
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mullet2000
Member
That doesn't seem right. Something else must be going on.
Gsync works, but it;s capped at 60.
Don't worry about Windows' rollback feature. Uninstall the drivers and then reinstall them manually.
terencecah
Member
1080ti
3440x1440 gsync
I7 4790k
Game seems to run well except for some tearing even in gsync
Cutscenes are very framey though
3440x1440 gsync
I7 4790k
Game seems to run well except for some tearing even in gsync
Cutscenes are very framey though
gravitybear
Member
is there a solution to the RX 480 whitescreen/crash issue that doesnt involve rolling back drivers yet? (I play other games and would rather not roll back)
Code:
CPU
Intel Core i7 6950X @ 3.00GHz 37 °C
Broadwell-E/EP 14nm Technology
RAM
64.0GB Unknown @ 1068MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE V EXTREME (SOCKET 2011) 32 °C
Graphics
Acer X34 (3440x1440@100Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (EVGA) 44 °C
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (EVGA) 39 °C
ForceWare version: 376.53
SLI Enabledshould be OK I hope
"very good rig" is a major understatement for that beast O__O
I'm running this at 1600p and shit isn't stable at all. I'm getting drops to 50 still at 2x AA.
Ah right, it does. Reason I thought it didn't is that some areas rely on pre-baked AO, which isn't affected. My bad.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Try lowering your refresh rate and then bumping it back up? Could be the same weird handshake issue I had earlier (which wasn't specific to this game). I've got a 67000k and 980ti and playing at 165hz + gsync and don't have any stutter.
Nabs
Member
lol
Yeah I think you'll be okay with that monster of a PC.
The cutscene problem will effect everyone regardless of PC because they are basically just a recorded video, but everything else should be great.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I wonder if the game would perform better if you installed it to your 64GB of RAM.
Thanks for letting me know. I think I might just stick with vanilla then.
Okay I know people are saying MSAA is expensive, but this game IS STILL demanding for the graphics tech behind it.
I'm not shitting on the game. I love it and it runs well for me. But this game isn't as optimized as it could be. The studios don't exactly have the budget to hire teams that specialize in this and I'm sure Square Enix was trying to keep margins low to maximize profits.
People who are having a bad experience with these games should pop in some Koei Tecmo ports. Their newest ones, Atelier Firis and Berserk are WAY too demanding on hardware and one is a "Vita/PS3" (Even though Firis doesn't exist on PS3) hybrid creation and the other is a budget Musou.
But I feel people do have good reason to say this game is too demanding on hardware though:
Here are some local comparisons of Witcher 3 and Nier: Automata. They both have AA turned and AO turned off (no hairworks) with everything else set to max in each corresponding game.
(Screenshots resized from 4K to save people time and bandwidth.)
Town:
Outside:
This is my favorite game so far this year, so I'm not trying to demean the game. But people are right in saying this game is too demanding for not reason.
This game should be capable of 90FPS@4K, at least, in my opinion. Especially with a Titan or 1080Ti
I'm not shitting on the game. I love it and it runs well for me. But this game isn't as optimized as it could be. The studios don't exactly have the budget to hire teams that specialize in this and I'm sure Square Enix was trying to keep margins low to maximize profits.
People who are having a bad experience with these games should pop in some Koei Tecmo ports. Their newest ones, Atelier Firis and Berserk are WAY too demanding on hardware and one is a "Vita/PS3" (Even though Firis doesn't exist on PS3) hybrid creation and the other is a budget Musou.
But I feel people do have good reason to say this game is too demanding on hardware though:
Here are some local comparisons of Witcher 3 and Nier: Automata. They both have AA turned and AO turned off (no hairworks) with everything else set to max in each corresponding game.
(Screenshots resized from 4K to save people time and bandwidth.)
Town:
Outside:
This is my favorite game so far this year, so I'm not trying to demean the game. But people are right in saying this game is too demanding for not reason.
This game should be capable of 90FPS@4K, at least, in my opinion. Especially with a Titan or 1080Ti
Nah, I think you need a better PC.
pretty done
Member
shader cache maybe? somethings not right
Oh for sure, but the thing is that people are mistaking unoptimized game with unoptimized port.
The game also doesn't run as well as it looks like it should on PS4 Pro, for example. There's a difference between a game with shitty performance and a shitty port, and it's important to keep that in mind.
If the PS4 Pro runs it at 1080p with no MSAA and can't keep stable 60fps, why would people expect equivalent graphics cards to run it at 1440p with MSAA? It's something that could happen if it was CPU limited on consoles, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
If this was 1080p and locked 60fps on Amateur PS4, then yeah, this performance is unacceptable. As it stands now, the only thing that's broken is the cutscene framerate.
Like, with my current PC, I usually run games at better settings and framerate than the regular PS4. This game I have to run at 900p, with no MSAA and no motion blur to get 60fps with frequent drops. Then I went on youtube and watched the same part played on vanilla PS4 with a framerate counter, and it dropped more on the same parts and had drops in parts I had no issues. So, as underwhelming as it is to play in 900p, it still falls in line with what I should expect from my PC.
Thankfully, I don't think I'll have to play at 900p for long, I'll finish Night in the Woods before playing this, and my new graphics card should arrive this week, so I'll probably be able to play at 1080p.
Updated SLI profile: 0x081002F5
My previous profile broke the HDR tonemapping. This one has decent scaling and doesn't have the same issues. There's still flickering in the pause screen, but since it's such a minor issue (and since Metal Gear Rising had the same problem - Nier Automata is very clearly based on the same engine) I'm not going to bother trying to fix it.
My previous profile broke the HDR tonemapping. This one has decent scaling and doesn't have the same issues. There's still flickering in the pause screen, but since it's such a minor issue (and since Metal Gear Rising had the same problem - Nier Automata is very clearly based on the same engine) I'm not going to bother trying to fix it.
Funyarinpa
Member
Snakethesniper
Member
it's my monitor, or in the first area/desert the colour it's like brownish/sepia? Because from this screen
it seems not
Dragon1893
Member
Sorry if this has already been answered, is there a fix for that issue with the hud when using borderless windowed, namely the flickering button prompts?
Robobandit
Member
yes. the transparent ones are intentional.
Yes. That's just a Yoko Taro thing.
Much of the game is (intentionally) pretty bleak, but it drastically changes based on environment. Some areas are pretty colourful, others are almost completely desaturated.
Snakethesniper
Member
I see, thanks!