GlamFM
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Don´t know much about game development, but I would assume that trying out different things in the prototype phase is not unusual.
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Mass Effect: Andromeda | Review Thread
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Don´t know much about game development, but I would assume that trying out different things in the prototype phase is not unusual.
texhnolyze
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I thought the 'franchise' in that paragraph is referring to Mass Effect franchise. So I guess it's about EA franchise as a whole
MosquitoSmasher
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Is it true though that this was a completely new team and not the BioWare behind the previous games or is that unconfirmed?
Because if so, the good BioWare is probably working on that online game then.
Because if so, the good BioWare is probably working on that online game then.
Expect nobody is calling the combat exceptional. It's an ok third person shooter with a weak story who has time for that
Askherserenity
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Gamespot's reviewer made an interest point about the flaws of the game:
I.e. it isn't just a question of technical flaws, but also narrative and world-building that hold it back.
I.e. it isn't just a question of technical flaws, but also narrative and world-building that hold it back.
……forgetit
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I've found that disappointing entries in beloved franchises skew higher than they should due to reviewers wanting to like the game. This could be worse than the picture the reviews are panting -_-
Mysterious Stranger
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The combat is pretty good actually from what I've seen in streams. It's everything else!
Magic Mushroom
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Halo and Destiny. And a couple of Star Wars games. Or do you just mean RPGs?
I hope some established devs will tackle space opera in the near future. Naughty Dog for example.
Audioboxer
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Games as a service bro.
EA: Can this be an MMO/MP game? No? Not doing it.
In reality, EA being coy here. Send out a predominantly SP game to shit the bed and die, EA reconfirming everything needs to be MMO/MP.
GlamFM
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I think it´s confirmed that the previous ME leads have either left or have moved on to Bioware´s take on Destiny.
This is made by a team that was ME3´s DLC team.
Mysterious Stranger
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Halo 4 guy!
Ryzaki009
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Thank fuck for that. It was maddening in ME3.
I am shocked by this quite honestly, even given that the animations/writing issues were known about. I have been a fan since the launch of ME1. I would have expected a solid 85-90 based on the pedigree of the franchise. How could they drop the ball like this on the franchise? The silver lining is that I have too many games to play anyway.
EDIT:
Eurogamer.
"The combat crackles and the worlds are lush, but mediocre writing and tepid quests add up to what is probably BioWare's worst RPG yet."
DAAAAAMN.
EDIT:
Eurogamer.
"The combat crackles and the worlds are lush, but mediocre writing and tepid quests add up to what is probably BioWare's worst RPG yet."
DAAAAAMN.
Works both ways. Some people will be harsher because it is from a beloved franchise. Some will give it a pass. I think it's a wash from a consensus standpoint. It all comes down to the individual reviewer.
Yes. This is the team that worked on ME3 multiplayer which would explain why the TPS elements are great and environments looking mighty fine.
Well, considering the finished product (story/dialog/animation-wise), they almost couldn't have revealed it today even. No?
It was headed by Bioware Montreal who was behind Arrival DLC and Omega DLC and the multiplayer in ME3. The creative director was Mac Walters, who co-wrote ME2 and was the lead writer for ME3. Possibly others from the old team were also on board (Manveer Heir, for example).
And it's perfectly sensible to rotate this game to Montreal considering their experience with Arrival and Omega, as well as having some of the old leads heading the project.
Halo 4 writer, who also left the team early last year.
Ocarina_117
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They should give mass effect to marvel
Mysterious Stranger
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And made the Omega DLC
Dark_3nergy
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For a bit of perspective, I had to pre maturally quit playing DA:I because of a fatal bug that got rid of not only my mini map, but also fast travel. Making the game virtually unplayable.
I have cancelled my pre order and will wait til this one is cooked better.
Edit: phone being janky
Diablohead
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Upsetting not just from reviews but from what i have seen too, it's close but missing the mark and not scratching that itch for me.
Any examples of this particularly bad writing? (don't make me comb 33 pages, plz).
Don't know how severe it is, but i'd be a bit forgiving here, since big rpgs are bound to have some bad lines here and there, given the volume they're required to produce (paired with lifeless animations to boot).
Don't know how severe it is, but i'd be a bit forgiving here, since big rpgs are bound to have some bad lines here and there, given the volume they're required to produce (paired with lifeless animations to boot).
SuperBanana
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Wait, really? Fucking hell. I didn't mind Halo 4 but the story was DREADFUL. Giantbomb even mentioned it felt "Halo 4ish" where it barely explains itself and just forces story points to keep it moving.
Unaha-Closp
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Sad. If EA don't think we are worth a really good Mass Effect game don't give them your money. Don't buy it just because it's called Mass Effect. Or do I'm not the boss of you lol but I think we can all agree we wanted a really good Mass Effect game. This doesn't even seem to be a really good game regardless of what brand EA slapped on. I say again though you do you and have fun doing it.
HellofaMouse
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i was feeling really good about the game during the 10hour trial, but more i play it the less i like it.
there isnt a ringle character i like in my crew, side quests seem to get less and less interesting and the open world design is even worse than da:i in that, stuff to do in it is all meaningless chores.
low to mid 70s seem about right.
i guess the doctors made all the difference huh?
there isnt a ringle character i like in my crew, side quests seem to get less and less interesting and the open world design is even worse than da:i in that, stuff to do in it is all meaningless chores.
low to mid 70s seem about right.
i guess the doctors made all the difference huh?
Mysterious Stranger
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The main problem is a lot prominent people have left EA from Bioware or working on some new IP.
Holundrian
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People remember when the cause for the animations was blamed on a bug? Must have been an incredibly complicated bug then.
I guess it depends on what you consider to be the game's biggest issues. The bugs, the framerate and the inventory issues will probably be fixed, yeah.
But I'm not convinced the animations are something that will be fixed in a patch. That kind of thing isn't something that can be quickly implemented like a bugfix, that shit requires manpower and a budget that Bioware probably didn't commit to for post-launch support. Same thing with the stilted VO and dialogue that was in the trial.
PuppetMaster
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I think tou have confused fans with suckers. Fans are the ones who should be the MOST upset.
Not on the release, atleast for me.
funkystudent
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Not sure its bad writing as much as a combo of bad performances + completely uninspired writing that feels stale.
The feeling I get is, is that the story and characters feels awkward and lifeless but not exactly offensively bad.
mercenar1e
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They learned nothing from the witcher or any other game for that matter.
Audioboxer
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True, but homework 101 as I've said multiple times should have been the project leads dissecting ME1~3 and spending the first month or two mandating ALL staff play them till completion. Might sound daft/like a chore, but if you're bringing a new team into do something like this, take it seriously.
Chances are half of them have played ME1~3, if not practically all, which is what makes this even more painful. Direction from the project leads must have been dire.
Herr Schwarz
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Well that's what happens when you clearly fail to understand what people want from RPGs. Taking priority away from great story telling in favour of shooty shooty bang bang and nice looking screenshots.
Fallout 4 took the same nose dive, as did inquisition and to a lesser extent skyrim
Fallout 4 took the same nose dive, as did inquisition and to a lesser extent skyrim
Not sure how a 75 is a bad score. Is it a disappointing score? Sure. But if you're a fan of the franchise and aren't turned off by the streams I don't see why this game won't at least be okay.
Why are people acting like a 75 is a god awful score? Some of my favorite games of all time are in the 70s. It's just metacritic. The biggest knock against it is the fact that we've had a killer early 2017 and if you have limited time/money and aren't a ME fan then this is a pretty easy pass/wait.
The entire studio made all the difference. Bioware Edmonton didn't have much involvement in this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b6qH48bslA
Possible minor spoilers, but it was posted in the other ME:A thread (crazy animations!).
Can anyone tell me what is meant by "My face is tired"????
Captain_Wreckus
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Fuck the reviewers (gamespot, giantbomb). I cannot wait to play this as ME 1-3 are my favorite games...heck, I double dipped (Xbox one and pc) so I can play it on my laptop if I go out.
MegaSackman
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Expectations re-ajusted, saw it coming with all the army of death from last week. I think I'll enjoy it.
Going to work now, I'll watch the review there.
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