I don't think that was even her. She's uncredited for this film. Her only actual appearance was the photo. The hologram is distorted, so could have been any actress playing her there. The singing voice on the hologram could have been someone else too.
Experimentation leading to the creation of a face hugger egg is vague. We don't know how precisely this works. He's getting these eggs and embryos somehow. Growing them? Harvesting them? I doubt he's building them with his bare hands. That wouldn't make any sense. Where would he be getting the material for that, anyway?
Doesn't that contradict the Xenomorph mural from Prometheus?They're not. There is no queen.
David invents the egg. The Alien lifecycle, according to this movie, literally starts here. With a roomful of eggs handmade by David.
Doesn't that contradict the Xenomorph mural from Prometheus?
Clearly these Xenomorph species/variants exist elsewhere, thus predating David and the events of Prometheus.
Or is Covenant implying that the Egg/Face hugger/chestburster cycle is specifically David's creation, but not the alien species itself?
Doesn't that contradict the Xenomorph mural from Prometheus?
Clearly these Xenomorph species/variants exist elsewhere, thus predating David and the events of Prometheus.
Or is Covenant implying that the Egg/Face hugger/chestburster cycle is specifically David's creation, but not the alien species itself?
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Shit, I forgot about that mural in Prometheus.
Now I'm just lost. The mural suggested that the Engineers knew about the Xenos long before David planted his flag, so to speak.
Ridley Scott said that this third film will be called Alien: Awakening and will take place chronologically between the events of Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. This reveals the fate of David and Elizabeth Shaw once they arrive on the planet of the engineers (and future destination of the Covenant ship) and will clarify many question Alien: Covenant
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Doesn't that contradict the Xenomorph mural from Prometheus?
Clearly these Xenomorph species/variants exist elsewhere, thus predating David and the events of Prometheus.
Or is Covenant implying that the Egg/Face hugger/chestburster cycle is specifically David's creation, but not the alien species itself?
Saw it last night. I quite enjoyed it.
My biggest complaint would be the heavy use of CGI over practical effects.
I just don't find CGI beasts all that frightening haha. Takes me right out of the shock or suspense.Yeah, in some scenes with the alien(s) I found it to be distracting.
Shit, I forgot about that mural in Prometheus.
Now I'm just lost. The mural suggested that the Engineers knew about the Xenos long before David planted his flag, so to speak.
1) After 25 years, Fox & Ridley Scott have finally, finally managed to clear the (low-ish) hurdle that is Alien 3. This is a better movie than that was.
If David created the facehuggers and the Alien, what was up with the giant squid facehugger and horrible CG mini Alien thing at the end of Prometheus? Or is it all just YOLO now?
The black goo can make lifeforms and was made by the Engineers, so I bet the Engineers had made alien creatures before this, hence the mural in Promeheus.
My guess is David, having learned a lot about the Engineers in the 10 years he was on the Juggernaut, just figured out how to make them too, maybe he tweaked their formula, to make something close to the Xeno we all know but it's not 100% guaranteed that he was the very first one to do it.
Either that wasn't the first deacon or there was something quite close in nature to it that had existed before (and it's likeness made into a mural). The "video recordings" that the Prometheus crew find while exploring the Engineer structure give the suggestion that something was hunting them down and picking them off.the black liquid was known about before david, the engineers clearly knew it was capable of creating those things, hence the wall mural which showed a deacon(alien at end of prometheus).
David simply took the liquid and is experimenting with it to create various types of other xenomorphs, he wants to become a god himself and create the perfect organism.
The film doesn't really 100% say that david is the first person do create these lifeforms(although david wants to be the first), so they could simply say in the next film that the engineers knew way before david the recipe and sequences needed to create the same xenomorphs or at least very similar.
A lot?? I'm pretty sure 90% of the shots involving aliens are CGI. I don't remember anything practical about the last two aliens... Even the neomorphs look CGI the whole time.The Alien looked great, yeah the cgi was obvious in a few spots, but you could tell a lot was practical.
Definitely seemed to be almost all CGI save for some of the face huggers. I honestly couldn't pull out any practical shots of the xenomorph. It all looked way too clean.A lot?? I'm pretty sure 90% of the shots involving aliens are CGI. I don't remember anything practical about the last two aliens... Even the neomorphs look CGI the whole time.
I kinda like it in Aliens 3--the death feel appropriate to the world and life of Ripley. No happy endings.
Shaws death doesn't make much thematic sense with Prometheus.
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I just don't find CGI beasts all that frightening haha. Takes me right out of the shock or suspense.
I liked the setup at the end of the film with them using the ship's sections to guide the alien to the docking bay, but the almost liquid-like movements of the alien took the tension out of it.
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Fucking third act (the minute) they ran out of the temple, the movie turned into hot garbage. A completely uninteresting and unscary CGI alien zippy do da cartoon.
weird cgi alien staring at people boarding a lander.
lander sequence was shot shaky cam + with ridiculous OTT action and zero tension. Incoherent and dull
Got to the ship. Gay guy no2. hatches but they don't show the death
shower scene is pointless and spoilt by trailer and they don't even bother to show the woman dying.
Then a straight series of doors open/doors close with alien vision......... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
AIRLOCK sequence that is about as exciting as watching paint dry
"Help a girl out line" while B-side ripley with bad hair quips a dumb line
The motion of the CGI Alien was really bad. It just didn't look right.
OMG this movie. Yikes!
CGI alien birthed staring at GOD david was also very bad.
I kinda like it in Aliens 3--the death feel appropriate to the world and life of Ripley. No happy endings.
Shaws death doesn't make much thematic sense with Prometheus.
Read in interview lead designer noted they decided to ditch the more obvious biomechanical trappings and go with more of a real world look (in that it's a living creature with muscles and veins).I mean, I didn't watch the movie but the Xeno in here is different. Look at the motherfucker
different arm, legs (more organic, , seems like it's more veiny..)
lol no, what gave you that impression?
A lot?? I'm pretty sure 90% of the shots involving aliens are CGI. I don't remember anything practical about the last two aliens... Even the neomorphs look CGI the whole time.
At this point it could be anything lol. Ridley has made mention of exploring between Prometheus and Covenant, and also what would lead up to the original Alien as well.So the next film, timeline wise is placed between Prometheus and Covenant? Im hoping the film after that will feature the engineers and their own creations battling against David and his xenos leading up to the infamous space jockey scene in The original.
At this point it could be anything lol. Ridley has made mention of exploring between Prometheus and Covenant, and also what would lead up to the original Alien as well.
They're working on the script for next one, but what part of the timeline it covers, who can say for sure?
Maybe it'll be both a prequel and sequel to Covenant?
Read in interview lead designer noted they decided to ditch the more obvious biomechanical trappings and go with more of a real world look (in that it's a living creature with muscles and veins).
Disappointing really as Scott was so keen on the biomechaical look for Alien and noted only Gieger's art looked truly alien and thus that was crucial to the look.
TBH the lower legs aside (limitation of the time of course) the original suit Geiger put together still looks best when well shot (such as emerging from the pipes in Narcissus).
In Alien Isolation where they blended original Geiger with better lower limbs for convincing movement the result was fantastic.
Here it loses the weird not flesh/creature vibe the biomechanical look delivered and just looks like a moderately funky human variant. Only the classic long dome head makes it look odd at all now.
But then with Prometheus and Covenant Scott has gone much further than anyone else in franchise in making the alien merely an exotic creature and lost the true sense of alien essence he himself first captured.
Given I decided to skip film I figured I'd most here and see if my worst fears were the case and oh boy does it sound like they were. Reading reviews/comments it's obviously a damn odd amalgam of Prometheus and Alien 3 and as disjointed as that implies.
The fact they'd skip chance to show Davids betrayal of Shaw (which could and should have been a very powerful scene and a key moment for David) says it all for me. Scott's skipping about chasing various themes and as dead that take his fancy, and while some good elements are emerging the whole is very messy.
I'll probably skip completely in cinema and just watch later for curio value at home.
3) This is the first film in which I honestly believe Ridley Scott has allowed a character to be an avatar of himself. I don't think he's ever self-inserted into one of his movies before.
David is basically Ridley Scott as obvious, and obviously flawed artist, stylishly obvious in the worst ways, confusing his on-the-nose flamboyance for profundity.