Can you explain why?I've only seen it once when it first came out, definitely need a rewatch to properly rank them, but I'd probably rank it last, maybe tied with atoc
The reaction to the prequels wasn't even bad when they came out outside of the more die hard fans. They all reviewed well, sold plenty of tickets and a heck of a lot of toys. The whole the prequels were hated is something that came waaaaaaaaaaay later. Have a look at what the rotten tomato scores for the film's actually were when those films released. Two of them are still fresh because newer reviews haven't been added.Yeah, it went in the opposite direction and had almost nothing to do with it. I love the entire Fast series, but I also consider Fast Five and beyond a completely different series that just happens to start the same characters.
The reception to the prequels was not good. I don't think that I have to explain this, but apparently this is the case. For the decade between Revenge of the Sith and The Force Awakens, the prequel trilogy was summarily pilloried by most of Star Wars fandom, culminating in that semi-final cringeworthy Vader "Noooooooo". There is a younger generation that loves them, but for Star Wars fans at the time, the talk was mostly poor.
Here, before TFA: "Why Are the Star Wars Prequels Hated So Much?"
Because they're not as good as the first trilogy, and the expectations were high.
That's just a random smattering of comments and that was the general take on the prequels.
You guys are nuts. TFA is fun as hell and infinitely rewatchable.
You guys are nuts. TFA is fun as hell and infinitely rewatchable.
It was very geared towards fan service and doesn't really stand on its own to me. I was fine with this at the time, as it was a safe restart of a new era.
I just don't feel like watching it again.
The reaction to the prequels wasn't even bad when they came out outside of the more die hard fans. They all reviewed well, sold plenty of tickets and a heck of a lot of toys. The whole the prequels were hated is something that came waaaaaaaaaaay later. Have a look at what the rotten tomato scores for the film's actually were when those films released. Two of them are still fresh because newer reviews haven't been added.
To act like they were widespread hated right from the onset is some substantial revisionist history.
The new Star Wars films: can Disney restore the franchise to its former heights?
Well can't be worse than the phantom menace.
Thank God. Someone had to take it away form him before he destroyed it. I wasn't going to pick Disney though...
Lucas sold out, plain and simple, but he sold out long before the prequel series. This doesn't surprise me at all.
I like the idea of more star wars that isn't DIRECTED by George Lucas.
I mean, if you are going to be brave enough to say you are making more of them, you have to be aware of what fans have complained about right? RIGHT?
The news caused an instantaneous outcry from Star Wars fans who for years have seen their original beloved trilogy turned into a barely recognized franchise.
However they may be able to do some justice to another post-trilogy, they are just going to have to be very careful not to ruin the creative talents of the original three.
Hopefully these new films will be better than the prequels , which were, in my opinion had poor scripts, dialogue, acting and directing.
Lucas has already ruined indiana jones and star wars (in cahoots with Ja Ja Binks aka Spielberg). Can't they just let it die gracefully?
oh dear.... That's the biggest film franchise in the world totally ruined then....as if georgie boy hadn't done enough to destroy it with the complete pile of Bantha poo doo that was episodes 1,2 and 3
It's in the hands of the mouse over George? Lesser of two evils.
Do people respect the prequal trilogy? Maybe the respect its ability to ruin the hopes and dreams of millions of Star Wars fans...
So George craps all over everyone's childhood by defiling his own work and then sells out to a company that is sure to continue and/or escalate the defilement. I gotta say, did not see that coming. Touche, mister Lucas.
Much like TFA, from around a year after ROTS until... a year after TFA's release, the reception to the prequels was largely negative for many in online discussion. Hell, this year is when folks began the "Are the prequels really bad?" line of articles and whatnot.
Just saw it once. Kind of a bummer because I took my kids and really expected them to have a great experience. They didn't. although, They loved that R2D2 ball thing. Pffttt modern Kids these days...
On the contrary I find that opinion revisionist. Prequel likers have always been there - HOWEVER when those RLM reviews came out there was a massive influx of people jumping on the bandwagon of prequel hating who wouldn't usually have had a strong opinion either way. Now it's old news and they don't give a damn anymore their opinions have stopped drowning out people who actually find the prequels decent entertainment. Likewise even in the original TFA thread on Neogaf there were quite a few disappointed posters.
(Then again I've probably noticed it more, because I don't think the prequels are works of Satan to destroy childhoods, and TFA almost ruined my love of Star Wars, esp.given how much legacy stuff was sacrificed for it. RIP Mara.)
On the contrary I find that opinion revisionist. Prequel likers have always been there - HOWEVER when those RLM reviews came out there was a massive influx of people jumping on the bandwagon of prequel hating who wouldn't usually have had a strong opinion either way. Now it's old news and they don't give a damn anymore their opinions have stopped drowning out people who actually find the prequels decent entertainment. Likewise even in the original TFA thread on Neogaf there were quite a few disappointed posters.
(Then again I've probably noticed it more, because I don't think the prequels are works of Satan to destroy childhoods, and TFA almost ruined my love of Star Wars, esp.given how much legacy stuff was sacrificed for it. RIP Mara.)
.Welcome to "you are an adult and media doesn't imprint on you the way it did as a childhood". You will find this applies to more than just Star Wars, but I imagine it might feel even stronger with TFA considering it's essentially a remake of a movie you've already watched fifty plus times.
The reaction to the prequels wasn't even bad when they came out outside of the more die hard fans. They all reviewed well, sold plenty of tickets and a heck of a lot of toys. The whole the prequels were hated is something that came waaaaaaaaaaay later. Have a look at what the rotten tomato scores for the film's actually were when those films released. Two of them are still fresh because newer reviews haven't been added.
To act like they were widespread hated right from the onset is some substantial revisionist history.
The art and the aesthetics bored me to tears outside the films many other problems, especially after the prequels where we treated to tons of new locales, vistas, ships and technology.
We got shit tiny desert settlement compared to Mos Eisley, shit cantina in the middle of nowhere (why?), completely unremarkable forest (doesn't help I've actually been to that Forest alot), god awful ranthar ship, boring imperial base and a rebel base that looks like a parking garage compared to Yavin. The only decent location was the icey forest at the end, and even that was nothing alien or otherworldly about it.
Everything was so tiny scale too for such a big film. An enemy that's barely explored, about 20 starfighters in the rebel fleet, no space battles, no cities, no civilsations (outside the 5 second shot of Hosnian Prime before it got blown up by a ridiculously underhyped and explained mega weapon) Everything was so rote an uninspired. Yeah, George can't direct, but he took his time too actually build out the world's and stories and art before they got started.
Whereas Abrams even admits a lot of the stuff they didn't have backstories' for, and weren't sure where they were leading when they started the film and just put them in there for someone else to fill out later and it really shows. George built a universe, where TFA feels like this really small selfcontained thing. Doesn't help they had a rushed pre-production that still had things being produced even after filming started. I mean, It's production feels like a safe cash grab rather than being something bold like Star Wars was before, for better or worse. And I don't excuse anyone for playing it safe when *this* was the result.
BB-8 was pretty much the best thing to come from it. All the other shops,tech and locations were so dull. So yeah, i cant stand through watching TFA again either.
(Ranthar scene made me almost leave the midnight screening. Everything that followed was a massive let down and genuinely boring - coming from someone who's read every single Star Wars novel and seen all the movies apart from TFA dozens of times. Latter half of Rogue One on the other hand, A++).
It's probably better that I don't, considering I find more enjoyment out of 1&3 over the OT.Can you explain why?
The art and the aesthetics bored me to tears outside the films many other problems, especially after the prequels where we treated to tons of new locales, vistas, ships and technology.
We got shit tiny desert settlement compared to Mos Eisley, shit cantina in the middle of nowhere (why?), completely unremarkable forest (doesn't help I've actually been to that Forest alot), god awful ranthar ship, boring imperial base and a rebel base that looks like a parking garage compared to Yavin. The only decent location was the icey forest at the end, and even that was nothing alien or otherworldly about it.
Everything was so tiny scale too for such a big film. An enemy that's barely explored, about 20 starfighters in the rebel fleet, no space battles, no cities, no civilsations (outside the 5 second shot of Hosnian Prime before it got blown up by a ridiculously underhyped and explained mega weapon) Everything was so rote an uninspired. Yeah, George can't direct, but he took his time too actually build out the world's and stories and art before they got started.
Whereas Abrams even admits a lot of the stuff they didn't have backstories' for, and weren't sure where they were leading when they started the film and just put them in there for someone else to fill out later and it really shows. George built a universe, where TFA feels like this really small selfcontained thing. Doesn't help they had a rushed pre-production that still had things being produced even after filming started. I mean, It's production feels like a safe cash grab rather than being something bold like Star Wars was before, for better or worse. And I don't excuse anyone for playing it safe when *this* was the result.
BB-8 was pretty much the best thing to come from it. All the other shops,tech and locations were so dull. So yeah, i cant stand through watching TFA again either.
(Ranthar scene made me almost leave the midnight screening. Everything that followed was a massive let down and genuinely boring - coming from someone who's read every single Star Wars novel and seen all the movies apart from TFA dozens of times. Latter half of Rogue One on the other hand, A++).
You realize right that icy forest at the end and completely unremarkable forest at middle are 100% same location with different effects slapped on? Made me chuckle when saw the movie because they didn't even try to hide set reuse.
Which was not a big deal at all in children's media at the time.
I mean we're talking about a movie where the villain is wearing a robotic samurai costume.
Go read some of the contemporary reviews. It was very much considered a movie for children, as well as children-at-heart nostalgic for the serials and pulp novels they grew up with.
They are soulless films that's why.I liked Force Awakens and Rogue One. Not sure why everyone here fell off of them.
Welcome to "you are an adult and media doesn't imprint on you the way it did as a childhood". You will find this applies to more than just Star Wars, but I imagine it might feel even stronger with TFA considering it's essentially a remake of a movie you've already watched fifty plus times.
I am a huge SW fan, but I am glad to see people are realizing TFA just wasn't that good. It's my second to last favorite of the movies (with AotC being last).
That's totally fine. I don't get it, and I think it stands perfectly fine on its own, but people are most certainly free to like what they like. I will call BS on people saying it was dull or boring to the point where they couldn't finish it though. But I know hyperbole tends to run rampant in these types of threads.
The art and the aesthetics bored me to tears outside the films many other problems, especially after the prequels where we treated to tons of new locales, vistas, ships and technology.
We got shit tiny desert settlement compared to Mos Eisley, shit cantina in the middle of nowhere (why?), completely unremarkable forest (doesn't help I've actually been to that Forest alot), god awful ranthar ship, boring imperial base and a rebel base that looks like a parking garage compared to Yavin. The only decent location was the icey forest at the end, and even that was nothing alien or otherworldly about it.
Everything was so tiny scale too for such a big film. An enemy that's barely explored, about 20 starfighters in the rebel fleet, no space battles, no cities, no civilsations (outside the 5 second shot of Hosnian Prime before it got blown up by a ridiculously underhyped and explained mega weapon) Everything was so rote an uninspired. Yeah, George can't direct, but he took his time too actually build out the world's and stories and art before they got started.
Whereas Abrams even admits a lot of the stuff they didn't have backstories' for, and weren't sure where they were leading when they started the film and just put them in there for someone else to fill out later and it really shows. George built a universe, where TFA feels like this really small selfcontained thing. Doesn't help they had a rushed pre-production that still had things being produced even after filming started. I mean, It's production feels like a safe cash grab rather than being something bold like Star Wars was before, for better or worse. And I don't excuse anyone for playing it safe when *this* was the result.
BB-8 was pretty much the best thing to come from it. All the other shops,tech and locations were so dull. So yeah, i cant stand through watching TFA again either.
(Ranthar scene made me almost leave the midnight screening. Everything that followed was a massive let down and genuinely boring - coming from someone who's read every single Star Wars novel and seen all the movies apart from TFA dozens of times. Latter half of Rogue One on the other hand, A++).
Yep. It's not even better than revenge of the sith, but it's better than PM and AOTC.Most people were caught up by the hype. It's just an ok film.
I am a huge SW fan, but I am glad to see people are realizing TFA just wasn't that good. It's my second to last favorite of the movies (with AotC being last).
They're genuinely trashfire films. Stilted acting, horribly awkward dialogue that never sounds like someone read the script. And yes, they literally did boil down to good vs evil, right down to straight up dehumanizing the enemy completely by making them droids and having the good guys be clones with zero personality. The entire crux of the films, the romance element, is completely stilted and awkward, as is the supposed great friendship between Anakin and Obiwan. So basically the two most important elements are terribly executed. Yet they're original because of some shitty diner scene in an out of place 50s diner? When they try so hard to shoehorn random OT elements to tie it all into a nice little not, like Jango Fett.sith as a top starwars flick and the prequels tell a more complex story thatn the simple bad vs. evil which make them more interesting
Using GAF as an indicator for this is pretty laughable. TPM didn't release to positive reviews.Feels like another TPM symptom. Mega hype and nothing but positive reviews at first. Then the realization sinks in. I do think TPM is more enjoyable than TFA minus jar jar. It had more memorable sequences like the podracing, jedi fight at the end and qui-gon vs maul. But TFA isn't a bad picture either. its quality and script is better than TPM for sure. But just very generic, and forgettable. Entertaining for one or two sitting.
The art and the aesthetics bored me to tears outside the films many other problems, especially after the prequels where we were treated to tons of new locales, vistas, ships and technology.
We got shit tiny desert settlement compared to Mos Eisley, shit cantina in the middle of nowhere (why?), completely unremarkable forest (doesn't help I've actually been to that forest a lot), god awful ranthar ship, boring imperial base and a rebel base that looks like a parking garage compared to Yavin. The only decent location was the icey forest at the end, and even that was nothing alien or otherworldly about it.
Everything was so tiny scale too for such a big film. An enemy that's barely explored, about 20 starfighters in the rebel fleet, no space battles, no cities, no civilsations (outside the 5 second shot of Hosnian Prime before it got blown up by a ridiculously underhyped and explained mega weapon) Everything was so rote and uninspired. Yeah, George can't direct, but he took his time too actually build out the world's and stories and art before they got started.
Whereas Abrams even admits a lot of the stuff they didn't have backstories' for, and weren't sure where they were leading when they started the film and just put them in there for someone else to fill out later and it really shows. George built a universe, where TFA feels like this really small selfcontained thing. Doesn't help they had a rushed pre-production that still had things being produced even after filming started. I mean, the films production really does feel like a safe cash grab rather than being something bold like Star Wars was before, for better or worse. And I don't excuse anyone for playing it safe when *this* was the result.
BB-8 was pretty much the best thing to come from it. All the other ships, tech and locations were so dull. So yeah, I cant stand through watching TFA again either.
(Ranthar scene made me almost leave the midnight screening. Everything that followed was a massive let down and genuinely boring - coming from someone who's read every single Star Wars novel and seen all the movies apart from TFA dozens of times. Latter half of Rogue One on the other hand, A++).
Using GAF as an indicator for this is pretty laughable. TPM didn't release to positive reviews.