I'm inclined to agree with you, however she wasn't that young when she was dropped off. Conceivably she had a home life of some kind she would be familiar with before she was taken to Jakku.
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I'm inclined to agree with you, however she wasn't that young when she was dropped off. Conceivably she had a home life of some kind she would be familiar with before she was taken to Jakku.
Obi would be proud
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You say "dropping her off", from what we know she has been there all her life, never in a spaceship, nor another planet. There is no mention of her "being dropped on Jakku"' instead everything she says point to her being there for as long as she can remember.
"Her parents", fine, her family. I assume she remembers her family because there is no reason to think she does not.
So: doesn't remember living anywhere else than on Jakku, and remembers her family and them leaving her behind.
Crossing Eden
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He likely was assumed to be dead after being caught under the rubble of that building. Maybe via a surprise explosion or bombing run.
Nah. There's a scene of this happening:
It's very implied that she was left there.
Nah what I'm TRYING to say is that she was a young girl, therefore she was probably not old enough to understand the context of what was happening around her, if there was indeed an elaborate plot to get her on the planet.
For example, and this is just one theory.. if her guardian (whoever that was, maybe a real parent, maybe not) told her that her family was taking her to another planet to live until they returned, as a young girl, she is not witty or intelligent enough to understand that kind of context and would probably believe literally whatever she was told.
What..? The flashback clearly shows her being dropped off by a spaceship. Didn't you see this in the film? She assumes those people or person is/are her family. Clearly she lived somewhere else before being kicked to the curb of Jakku.
Again, there are a variety of reasons why she may not remember stuff about being dropped off on Jakku. One theory is that her memories were somehow altered.
I personally think if she had clear memories of whoever dropped her off, Rey would have talked about them in TFA. It's incredibly awkward to go to TLJ and all the sudden she's just like by the way, I remember X Y and Z about my family!
You son of a bitch not again
AlexFlame116
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Ether_Snake
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It does not "show her being dropped off", if shows a ship leaving her. You say she assumes they are her family, the movie never makes any indication "she assumes". And no, it does not "clearly indicates that she lived somewhere else before Jakku", like, how do you even come up with that as conclusive when it really does not in any way do any of what you say is certain?
Are you saying that ship didn't drop her off? I thought it was very clear that was the case.
How many other little girls or families do you see running around on Jakku?
Saucestin_Roast
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Oooo. Search your feelings... This is the skywalker saga according to Kathleen Kennedy right?
Nah, that was the Ice Cream Ship, and she just missed it.
You could hear the Cantina Jingle playing as it left atmosphere.
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The movie makes no indication whatsoever that the ship "dropped her off". What the vision shows is a ship leaving her alone on Jakku. There is no indication she didn't live there previously, we know she never left Jakku for as long as she can remember, and we know she was old enough to remember what happened before that ship left and remember said family, whoever they were.
The only way to negate all that is pretend she had amnesia, but the movie makes no such indication either.
Everything she says about herself points to her having no memory of ever living elsewhere at all.
Luke, Leia, and Kylo...that's a lot of family.
Killer Queen
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Only on neogaf could having three Skywalkers be Central to the story be not enough Skywalkers.
Kylo Ren is a Skywalker
Luke is a Skywalker
Leia is a Skywalker
Skywalkers seem pretty Central to the plot to me. Doesn't mean Rey has to be one.
Kylo Ren is a Skywalker
Luke is a Skywalker
Leia is a Skywalker
Skywalkers seem pretty Central to the plot to me. Doesn't mean Rey has to be one.
How many other families and children do you see on Jakku
I've never heard the argument made that she actually lived there with her family, or guardian, or whatever.
The place is essentially a slave world with workers bringing shit to Unkar.
Rey was born on Tatooine.
She just never realized she left because they're both desert planets.
Han too, by marriage
And don't try and tell me Chewie or Lando wasn't Ben's godfather
She just never realized she left because they're both desert planets.
Han too, by marriage
And don't try and tell me Chewie or Lando wasn't Ben's godfather
Kylo Ren doesn't even want to be a Skywalker. Luke and Leia aren't the main heroes of this trilogy.
Yeah, this is a first.
Like, it's pretty shit storytelling if that's not what they were trying to convey 'cus 99.9999999999% of people saw that scene and thought Rey was dropped off on Jakku.
Killer Queen
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And? How is that relevant
They're still very Central to the plot
The story is ALREADY based around Skywalker family drama with or without Rey.
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There's a whole village of force-church-folks that gets wiped out in the opening if you didn't remember. So....
It makes no sense for a family to raise Rey, the only child we ever see in the film, to have been on Jakku the entire time.
I mean.. yeah.. it's possible I guess?
But if that's the case, the film did a REALLY poor job, narratively, of conveying it.
Families and children? I didn't see any
There's also the fact that.. somebody raised her on Jakku this whole time.. and just so happened to have a perfectly functioning ship to just jettison off whenever they wanted?
Jakku is not a place you stay if you can leave. It just doesn't make much sense
And I wouldn't at all be satisfied with Kylo Ren who killed Han Solo and destroyed Luke's Jedi Order being the one legacy Skywalker character of the newest trilogy of the Skywalker saga.
There's a ton of other ordinary characters that they've made for this story. Finn, Poe, Rose. Rey, the central character in a story about the Skywalkers, has all the qualities of a Skywalker and she should be one too.
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Which would not be surprising at all, the movie handles its characters horribly.
So you didn't see any = all a bunch of celibates? You said there is no one else on jakku except slaves and Unkar. Wrong, force-church village.
I said "essentially", if you read my post. I also asked where the other families and children are. And where other people are who can leave with a perfectly functioning space ship. It makes no sense that someone was just waiting around on Jakku, for whatever reason, and then SUDDENLY decided to leave with a working spacecraft.. just cuz? What?
The movie handles it's characters horribly?
Uh no that's pretty much the best component of TFA
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They can leave because presumably they can? Why is that surprising in Star Wars, on a planet ships come and go from, especially considering the child is left in the hands of SLAVE OWNER UNKAR PLUTT. I don't know; girl in exchange of space ticket?
Killer Queen
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Well unfortunately for you these movies aren't being made to satisfy you. So maybe separate "my hopes and dreams" from the equation.
There's literally no reason for Rey to be one otherwise. We have enough Skywalkers, for as much as people complain about TFA riding the waves of nostalgia and hinging to heavily on OT, making Rey a Skywalker would be exactly that. It's unnecessary, it's been done and making her one doesn't do anything new for the story.
How many ships do we see come and go? One in all of TFA from Jakku? This is not a planet where people are coming and going with ships. There are none aside from the one Rey stares at, and obviously the Falcon, which probably sat there for decades.
And obviously it's a rare sight because Rey is staring at it with wonder with her helmet on.
Again, why did Rey's guardian(s) sit on a working ship then randomly leave her on Jakku when she was older?
That makes no sense
What DOES make sense is that something happened in Rey's life, wherever she was from, and because of that discovery or event, someone wanted to drop her off quickly on a remote planet.
An old defeated Jedi Master, Leia who won't be around for IX, and Kylo Ren who wants to cut all ties with the family and may be irredeemable.
So no, we don't.
Doctoglethorpe
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Yeah, he never told her he loved her. People have sex before they say the L word.
There was a scene in the middle of the book where they kissed and then it cut to the next day. Interpret.
What's the Skywalker quota?
Because the OT had 3 as well.
Hell we thought there was only one until RotJ.
Why can't Rey be a Skywalker though?
Just because Kylo is irredeemable doesn't mean he can't have sex on the side. Also, I know Kathy said the main saga movies will always be about the Skywalkers, but is that still the thing? Why do these movies always have to be about the Skywalkers?
Ask Kathleen Kennedy. I'm sure it was Lucas's plan as well.
Killer Queen
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No, you don't. Because you are unwilling to disconnect and allow new things to take place. How ridiculous is it to have a Galaxy spanning series full of developed alien life and supernatural shit be centered around one group of people forvever. It sucks. Do something new, go in a different direction. If you can't handle that, that's okay, go watch the PT and OT if there aren't enough Skywalkers in this movie for you.
This is what the anthology movies are for.
Killer Queen
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Okay bud.
Ah. https://www.fandango.com/movie-news...ker-saga-will-continue-past-episode-ix-752161
Yeah Rey doesn't need to be a Skywalker.
"The Saga films focus on the Skywalker family saga. The stories follow a linear narrative that connects to the previous six films. The Force Awakens follows Return of the Jedi and continues that generational story. The Anthology films offer opportunities to explore fresh characters, new storylines and a variety of genres inside the Star Wars universe."
I mean, you can argue otherwise but given the evidence you're objectively wrong.
That's weird. I've never heard anyone interpret that scene as if Rey were somehow on Jakku and not dropped off.
Narratively, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Why would someone live on Jakku with Rey her entire life, have access to a fully functioning spacecraft, then just randomly leave her when she's like 6? It makes a whole lot more sense that she ended up dropped off on Jakku because of some discovery or event. Instead of "by the way I'm leaving now, after like six years of living in this shithole for no real reason"
And she wants to stay on Jakku because whoever left her there clearly told her they were coming back. That's the only family she knows.
Killer Queen
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Ironically enough, no, I'm not as posted above.
But you're free to continue your crusade if you'd like. There clearly isn't any worthwhile discussion to be had here.
Elegant Weapon
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Skywalker is a brand name, like pepsi. Both trilogies, the central characters have been Skywalkers, this third one should be too, right? It's like poetry, it rhymes
I'd much prefer them start on new trilogies and jumping off points and all that fun stuff. Then maybe one day, do an Episode X with the new cast ten or fifteen years later... if the story warrants it. I hope they don't just do Episode X in 2021 with no one in the Skywalker line, that wouldn't feel right.
Nah. I still think there's a good chance she will be a Skywalker, but it still makes sense for her to be a nobody or someone else. These films are still about Skywalkers, one way or another.
It's a family saga. They can make non-saga movies about characters other than Skywalkers.