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[Bitmap Frogs]

I've lost people who mattered enormously, but never anyone in this manner.

For what it's worth, I wish her the absolute best.

I have.

It fucks you up real good.

 

[Rolling_Start]

His sister essentially threw him under the bus in her twitter response. It was disgusting.

I don't think it's like that.

She lost someone she loves immeasurably, but knows did things he himself wasn't proud of. She saw him work towards being a better man, then saw the darkness of the fucking internet consume him. At the same time, who knows what shit she's had forced on her?

Dealing with loss can take years. Or longer.

I'm not going to judge her for anything. I don't have the understanding, and I don't have that right.

 

[Rolling_Start]

I have.

It fucks you up real good.

I'm sorry to hear that. And I believe you.

Edit: I'm sorry if that sounded twee. I didn't mean it to.

 

[The Cartographer]

I did it too.

This makes the twitter/resetera hordes shiver in fear!

 

[A Regular Guy]

Looks like Nibel is temporary on a ResetERA break, but some honorary members quit

 

[RPGCrazied]

It does. I lost an older sister to alcoholism.

 

[Stilton Disco]

I'm left leaning too brother. Not even upset by being asked to use people's preferred gender pronouns.

Things might get rough, but that's different than an insidious, creeping punishment of wrongthink.

Another lefty here.

Quite honestly the fact that I can get into political arguments on here and both get proper counterpoints, as well as see other perspectives and have a chance to find a middle ground with those who disagree with me, has been hugely refreshing after years of echochambers.

Far from being a haven for alt right hate mongers, Neogaf is exactly the kind of place that deradicalises people.

 

[Chromata]

Yeah. I love gaming, but I'm really starting to hate the extremely toxic culture that seems to run along side it.

I think it was inevitable. Things were much simpler in the past because the capabilities of what a game can do were limited and its audience was relatively niche.

These days games can be almost anything, can be made for all sorts of people, and are played globally. When you have that many people involved, it's difficult to not also bring in politics/controversy/toxicity etc.

 

[Shmunter]

Alt-right? Did I sign up to the wrong forum? I could have sworn this was the always-right forum, and the rest, always-wrong.

 

[Krappadizzle]

Another lefty here.

Quite honestly the fact that I can get into political arguments on here and both get proper counterpoints, as well as see other perspectives and have a chance to find a middle ground with those who disagree with me, has been hugely refreshing after years of echochambers.

Far from being a haven for alt right hate mongers, Neogaf is exactly the kind of place that deradicalises people.

Been a Gaffer for many years. For a VERY long time it leaned very HEAVILY left. Then after the Exodus, it went super hard RIGHT. I think Gaf has hit a point where it sits more in the middle but slightly favors the Right. ALL that said, it means a lot to me to see both sides of an argument and it's what USED to make Americans..well...Americans. We don't need to agree with each other to respect each other. It's a sad state of affairs when whichever side of the aisle one sits, you are either FOR OR AGAINST, without consideration that I think most people sit in a fuzzy middle ground.

 

[SoraNoKuni]

I did it too.



This makes the twitter/resetera hordes shiver in fear!

I am as left as it goes regarding society and social "things", I am from Greece and here the left is a bit more "traditional" I won't get more into political, anyways, most of Era think/claims are in the left but IMO these guys are the worst fascists i've encountered, twitter became a public execution ground under their influence, I honestly hope that twitter will get a bit more sensitive about "allegations", simply stating something on twitter, regardless if it's true or not shouldn't have such an impact on someone's life, humanity evolved and constructed a somewhat just society based on made up basic principles as such
innocent until proven guilty" and the right of defending yourself, Era is not better than extremists stoning people for their faults or crimes, apparently now even for allegations.
These guys are the modern day barbarians.

P.S Writing in a non native language late at night is kinda difficult, especially after some beers. Excuse my errors.

 

[bryo4321]

Wow. That's next level. Hey, if you are reading this, you should be really ashamed of yourself for supporting the shit that went down. A person killed himself because you enabled others to do harm with no due process. Alt-right my ass.

I’m a leftist yang and sanders donor, and a game designer on my favorite game just essentially labeled me a Nazi by my association with a website that has a wide spectrum of politics beliefs and discussion (yknow like how real life politics work). Awesome, way to think that through.

 

[SaucyJack]

Everything is alt-right to those people.

Indeed, everything is alt-right to the CTRL-Left

 

[The Cartographer]

I am as left as it goes regarding society and social "things", I am from Greece and here the left is a bit more "traditional" I won't get more into political, anyways, most of Era think/claims are in the left but IMO these guys are the worst fascists i've encountered, twitter became a public execution ground under their influence, I honestly hope that twitter will get a bit more sensitive about "allegations", simply stating something on twitter, regardless if it's true or not shouldn't have such an impact on someone's life, humanity evolved and constructed a somewhat just society based on made up basic principles as such
innocent until proven guilty" and the right of defending yourself, Era is not better than extremists stoning people for their faults or crimes, apparently now even for allegations.
These guys are the modern day barbarians.

P.S Writing in a non native language late at night is kinda difficult, especially after some beers. Excuse my errors.

Always remember, before founding the National Fascist Party, Benito Mussolini was a leading figure of the Italian Socialist Party...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Been a Gaffer for many years. For a VERY long time it leaned very HEAVILY left. Then after the Exodus, it went super hard RIGHT. I think Gaf has hit a point where it sits more in the middle but slightly favors the Right. ALL that said, it means a lot to me to see both sides of an argument and it's what USED to make Americans..well...Americans. We don't need to agree with each other to respect each other. It's a sad state of affairs when whichever side of the aisle one sits, you are either FOR OR AGAINST, without consideration that I think most people sit in a fuzzy middle ground.

FWIW:

Current count:


Left/Libertarian 95
Right/Authoritarian 11
Left/Authoritarian 3
Right/Libertarian 27
Left/Right/Libertarian 7
Left/Right/Authoritarian 2
Dead centre 1
Left/Libertarian/Authoritarian 1
Right/Libertarian/Authoritarian 3


TOTAL: 150 people

And there are quite a few more who took the test in here and after who are left.

I think when one is so used to far left echo chambers, moderate and open discussion seems more “on the right”.

 

[Shantae]

I did it too.

This makes the twitter/resetera hordes shiver in fear!

I never thought to do something like this before, even though I’ve always voted liberal, I have found I have agreed with some conservative ideas. Honestly expected I’d end up more in the middle.

 

[A Regular Guy]

I think it was inevitable. Things were much simpler in the past because the capabilities of what a game can do were limited and its audience was relatively niche.

These days games can be almost anything, can be made for all sorts of people, and are played globally. When you have that many people involved, it's difficult to not also bring in politics/controversy/toxicity etc.

It's indeed hard when game journalist shove their politics and moral compass down our throats.

 

[Thaedolus]

I don’t think there’s some VIP treatment whatever thing with removing accounts and anonymizing them. I politely requested it after my last ban and got it, even if it took a few weeks. They legitimately may have a backlog of such requests to work through lately, can’t imagine why

 

[nush]

Does anyone have a list of screwed up things retardera has done? Clearly the Alec hate brigade. Wasn't there a streamer that also recently committed suicide that they hated? Anything else?

Don't you remember pedo Era? The private Discord where verified users and key Reset Era staff openly condoned peodophilia? It happened, it was documented, the mods banned discussion and covered it up.

 

[Shantae]

Don't you remember pedo Era? The private Discord where verified users and key Reset Era staff openly condoned peodophilia? It happened, it was documented, the mods banned discussion and covered it up.

I’m still not really familiar with this situation, but I can’t help but feel surprised. I remember getting blasted so hard on era for showing enthusiasm for the Hyperdimension Neptune series because it “sexualizes children”. Talk about hypocrisy on their part.

 

[Stilton Disco]

Don't you remember pedo Era? The private Discord where verified users and key Reset Era staff openly condoned peodophilia? It happened, it was documented, the mods banned discussion and covered it up.

Ive heard references to this a couple of times now.

Anyone got a link to screenshots or a reliable source/rundown of what was said and who was involved?

 

[DrCheese]

Yeah, same here. I’m not a spring chicken anymore, I have things I want to do in my life that require a lot of attention, but the drama that goes on in the industry is just so taxing emotionally. Even if the situation doesn’t affect me personally, it has affected the games I love. As much as I like what NeoGAF has become, I am thinking I may have to unplug from the internet soon if I ever want my dreams realized. Might sell the PS4 and stick with Nintendo switch, play games I love on there and focus on my goals.

Yup - Like when I sit here on my PC playing games, I do it to unplug from the stresses of daily life. If I didn't read the Internet, I'd be in blissful ignorance like the majority of gamers on the planet.

I'm sick and tired of what would have in the past be a small bit of drama between a few people IRL becoming some massive worldwide Internet fueled ragefest that goes on for years. Screenshots of long forgotten conversations are slapped up online with no context. Accusations are published angrily online by one side & everyone assumed guilty instantly, with the entire planet having an opinion. Something someone posted back when they were younger is held up as their current viewpoint, implying that no one can ever grow as a person & change as they mature. Developers are mobbed out of a hobby they love if they offend the wrong crowd. Outrage culture magnifies even a small offense to a huge life ending situation.

The long term affect of this will be that no one ever posts anything online ever - It's like that Black mirror episode where if you do anything outside of the perfect norms you have your social score reduced. This causes everyone to act like single groupthink robots out of fear of being ostracised.

Was Alec perfect? Hell no, not by the sounds of it & it seems he may have had problems handling himself in a relationship. But the sun definately does not shine from Zoe's backside either.
But at the end of the day, who gives a damn really? It's some IRL drama on the other side of the planet that has zero affect on 99.999% of people's daily lives.

I dunno man, it's just sad. I just want to play some games.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

Ive heard references to this a couple of times now.

Anyone got a link to screenshots or a reliable source/rundown of what was said and who was involved?

I have such sights to show you

Resetera and the pedo problem (updates)

Resetera is trying hard to get the screencaps down. Here's an archive with everything until then : https://archive.fo/pfZIj Archive with every screen captures being taken down : https://archive.fo/U9g7Z ---------------------------------------------------- New development : Edit 1 : Here the...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Stilton Disco]

I’m still not really familiar with this situation, but I can’t help but feel surprised. I remember getting blasted so hard on era for showing enthusiasm for the Hyperdimension Neptune series because it “sexualizes children”. Talk about hypocrisy on their part.

I got the same over there for liking Senran Kagura.

Because everyone knows the first sign of being a pedo is having a preference for women with big tits.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

Big tits should be like kryptonite for pedos.

 

[Scopa]

I’m still not really familiar with this situation, but I can’t help but feel surprised. I remember getting blasted so hard on era for showing enthusiasm for the Hyperdimension Neptune series because it “sexualizes children”. Talk about hypocrisy on their part.

The ones that screech the loudest usually have something to hide.

 

[Shantae]

I got the same over there for liking Senran Kagura.

Because everyone knows the first sign of being a pedo is having a preference for women with big tits.

To be fair, NepNep herself is a bit of a flat chest, so she could look like a child. That being said, I can still find a character cute, and not want to fuck them. That’s another problem these hiveminds have, everything is black and white, there’s no grey area in anything. You like looking at cute anime girls, you must be a pedo!

 

[nush]

Ive heard references to this a couple of times now.

Anyone got a link to screenshots or a reliable source/rundown of what was said and who was involved?

 

[Sakura Doritos]

Mind blowing.

The amount of evil one can manifest at the accused is astonishing. It’s like the Salem witch trials all over again.

 

[Spukc]

The amount of evil one can manifest at the accused is astonishing. It’s like the Salem witch trials all over again.

it's pretty easy you dehumanize people on twitter and then continue to bully them with a mass group of people
until they kill themselves i guess?

 

[Velius]

It’s funny. This thread and situation just made me think of a few things. People on the resetera side of things, the people who aren’t swayed by any form of common sense, they look at sites like NeoGAF and have the nerve to call it alt right, or that it’s a hate group.

What I find hilarious, is that the way NeoGAF is now, I find it more welcoming and accepting then ever before. There are totally posts from people on here that I don’t always agree with, but that’s okay, because that’s what accepting diversity really is in my eyes. I love that we can have this discussion and not fear that we will be scolded and mocked for daring to have a different perspective on things. It’s not a welcoming environment where you feel forced to conform to the way things are done, and it legit made me feel like shit when I always had to walk on eggshells on the old gaf, or when I had an era account.

I don’t disagree that maybe people should be told to cool it if they are behaving like an asshole to the community, but that was not the reason that so many people would get banned on old gaf and on current era. It was just because they dared to be different. When I got banned on old gaf, I honestly did not even know much about Zoe Quinn and was just commenting on what I saw, and called it like I saw it. Hell, prior to gamergate, I actually remember enjoying an interview I saw on giantbomb with her, before I knew she was a horrible human being. I had no stake in it, or reason to hate her. Then all of a sudden I was lumped in with gamergate, which I didn’t even know existed at the time lol I was like “uh what did I do wrong”

Like I said though, current NeoGAF isn’t like that right now I feel. I like posting on here now and engaging with you folk. I like that we are allowed to make criticism and not be ostracized for it. Sometimes just having an outlet is all people like me want.

Fuck you, diversity means the color of your skin, not the conduct of your character!!!

CONFORM OR DIE

 

[Shantae]

Fuck you, diversity means the color of your skin, not the conduct of your character!!!

CONFORM OR DIE

Nah, ain’t getting rid of me that easy lol

 

[nush]

The ones that screech the loudest usually have something to hide.

Every. damn. time.

 

[Solomeena]

How can we be alt-right (what does that even fucking mean?) if we hate everthing and everyone equally (at least I do)?

I mean this sincerely, i fucking love you.

 

[Cunth]

Mind blowing.

take a look at that guys graphic design portfolio. terribad.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

After reading what her allegations are, and from knowing her history, she sounds like she is a sub who lost her dom and is lashing out because no one is putting a ball gag in her mouth and doing the dirty things she wants to be done to her anymore. Because she is fucking crazy.

Seriously, if being led around by the pussy was too painful, you’d just say a safe word and be done. She is mad because she can’t get another guy to dominate her like she wants. So the moral of the story is, don’t have mentally unstable subs.

 

[Solomeena]

There's no place or forum which is short on assholes.

ERA has assholes in its group. GAF has assholes in its group. The White House has assholes in its group. Even Jesus had assholes in his group.

I'm an Asshole to lunatic fringe far left nutjobs, come at me you fucking dipshits.

 

[joe_zazen]

It's indeed hard when game journalist shove their politics and moral compass down our throats.

You know, if they were intellects like Chomsky, or people who have accomplished things like Obama, it would be easy to listen to their thoughts on world issues, agree or disagree. But most are people in their twenties who have spent >10 000 hours playing videogames. It is indeed grating when they opine on world issues and human nature, even when a giant like Jim Sterling does it, lol.

Although there are exceptions, totslbiscuit had some well thought out takes.

 

[Sakura Doritos]

it's pretty easy you dehumanize people on twitter and then continue to bully them with a mass group of people
until they kill themselves i guess?

And to think she went to the UN and tried to pass off her brand of morality and distinction of bullying.

 

[Shantae]

After reading what her allegations are, and from knowing her history, she sounds like she is a sub who lost her dom and is lashing out because no one is putting a ball gag in her mouth and doing the dirty things she wants to be done to her anymore. Because she is fucking crazy.

Seriously, if being led around by the pussy was too painful, you’d just say a safe word and be done. She is mad because she can’t get another guy to dominate her like she wants. So the moral of the story is, don’t have mentally unstable subs.

Yeah, this has been bothering me. How does someone forcibly do that without her being able to... I dunno pull his hand out? His hands are obviously too busy to put up a fight. It really does sound like some dom/sub fetish shit that went wrong. I’ve browsed sites like fetlife, being led by the pussy is hardly strange sounding after seeing what shit people are into. This is why I don’t always like these rape accusations long after the fact, because I feel like people like Zoe Quinn think they can give consent, but then take it away after the fact. Sorry, but no.

I was coerced into sex with a woman who was already married, and she knew she wouldn’t get me to say yes sober, so she got me piss drunk. I regret it like hell, but I know it was my fault for not resisting at the time.

 

[bender]

What a sad outcome.

This will be a little scatterbrained, so please forgive me if the through lines are hard to follow, but it seems like the kangaroo court have never experienced an abusive relationship. On the one hand, that ignorance is great. I don't wish that experience on anyone. On the other hand, it's dangerous as evidenced here. I'll not bore anyone with the details, but I grew up with very abusive parents (both towards each other and their children). Through a sense of obligation, my father would not leave my mother even as she physically abused him. And through his cheating, alcoholism and unwillingness to express a solitary emotion, she'd not leave him either as she feared what her life would be like without him. If you'd ask her about their relationship, she'd play the victim and never accept any fault for where their marriage arrived (even to this day). Thankfully, he is a little more self-aware of his many short comings. Things aren't always so black and white or good versus evil.

I don't know Alec and it sounds like he had plenty of baggage and demons, but it also sounds like he was putting in the work to be a better person. That doesn't mean he deserves forgiveness from those he abused, but:

"This story isn't about him - after years of therapy and working on himself, he reached out and apologized for everything, and I've forgiven him."

If this is an example of forgiveness, then I hope I'm never forgiven for my past transgressions.

The Internet and social media are such a drag sometimes. I'm all for #MeToo movements, but conflating the likes of Weinstein or Cosby with every accusation that pops up is dangerous. We should be able to appreciate the difference between an army of rape accusations tied back to a single abuser versus a solitary accusation tied to an abusive relationship. I'm fine with #BelieveHer, but should we #AskHim before cancelling him? I know I said I wouldn't get in details above, but Zoe's account reminded me of an re-occurrence in my family. Once or twice a week, my mother would pack her bags and load up the car with her youngest (me) in tow while swearing she was leaving him this time. Sometimes we made it out of the garage. Sometimes to the end of the drive way. Rarely onto the street. We never left.

 

[DeepEnigma]

And to think she went to the UN and tried to pass off her brand of morality and distinction of bullying.

The wolves walk amongst the sheep.

 

[joe_zazen]

What a sad outcome.

This will be a little scatterbrained, so please forgive me if the through lines are hard to follow, but it seems like the kangaroo court have never experienced an abusive relationship. On the one hand, that ignorance is great. I don't wish that experience on anyone. On the other hand, it's dangerous as evidenced here. I'll not bore anyone with the details, but I grew up with very abusive parents (both towards each other and their children). Through a sense of obligation, my father would not leave my mother even as she physically abused him. And through his cheating, alcoholism and unwillingness to express a solitary emotion, she'd not leave him either as she feared what her life would be like without him. The background. If you'd ask her about their relationship, she'd play the victim and never accept any fault for where their marriage arrived (even to this day). Thankfully, he is a little more self-aware of his many short comings. Things aren't always so black and white or good versus evil.

I don't know Alec and it sounds like he had plenty of baggage and demons, but it also sounds like he was putting in the work to be a better person. That doesn't mean he deserves forgiveness from those he abused, but:

"This story isn't about him - after years of therapy and working on himself, he reached out and apologized for everything, and I've forgiven him."

If this is an example of forgiveness, then I hope I'm never forgiven for my past transgressions.

The Internet and social media are such a drag sometimes. I'm all for #MeToo movements, but conflating the likes of Weinstein or Cosby with every accusation that pops up is dangerous. We should be able to appreciate the difference between an army or rape accusations tied back to a single abuser versus a solitary accusation tied to an abusive relationship. I'm fine with #BelieveHer, but should we #AskHim before cancelling him? I know I said I wouldn't get in details above, but Zoe's account reminded me of an re-occurrence in my family. Once or twice a week, my mother would pack her bags and load up the car with her youngest (me) in tow while swearing she was leaving him this time. Sometimes we made it out of the garage. Sometimes to the end of the drive way. Rarely onto the street. We never left.

I hope you are doing well. I also know first hand the irreparable damage parents can do.

 

[ULTROS!]

You and I both. I was born into gaming, and it never left me. I'm 35 now, and I despise the fact that I feel like my favorite hobby has been dying infront of me for years now. As if it's slowly being disemboweled because of the bizarre butthurt and faux social outrage movement. It's the absolute worst. Social media has its pros, but good God does it have its cons.

I think what's making me focus on less games is the pushing of agendas. I usually just stick to Japanese games nowadays and a few Western games (Control is one, and has made me a Remedy fan, the others are Sony first party games).

 

[Shmunter]

I've not been here very long (lurked a bit in the past as a none member) and I've already discovered things can get quite rough and tumble as a poster. But as boisterous as things can get, mob action isn't welcomed by anyone I've encountered and I honestly don't think hate campaigns would tolerated.

Certainly, in my short time here I've not seen any evidence of moderators trying to direct conversation towards attacking individuals or punishing people who have concerns about dangerous overreaction.

Indeed, there is counter evidence. There was a mod post recently clearly stating that Neogaf community is not to go after people after a poster suggested to deplatform someone for wrong doing. Clearly the poster got carried away with charged emotion of the moment and wasn’t thinking straight. Suffice it to say, the super staff here immediately clarified the expected conduct and that was that.

In the future when society looks back at these moments in time, it is obvious who will be on the right side of history. Tolerant, accepting people, slightly boisterous yet open to all viewpoints but detest extremism -OR- detached Lynch mobs destroying individuals for what ever indiscretions happens to surface.

EviLore and his mods are cultivating something great here.

 

[Rolling_Start]

What a sad outcome.

This will be a little scatterbrained, so please forgive me if the through lines are hard to follow, but it seems like the kangaroo court have never experienced an abusive relationship. On the one hand, that ignorance is great. I don't wish that experience on anyone. On the other hand, it's dangerous as evidenced here. I'll not bore anyone with the details, but I grew up with very abusive parents (both towards each other and their children). Through a sense of obligation, my father would not leave my mother even as she physically abused him. And through his cheating, alcoholism and unwillingness to express a solitary emotion, she'd not leave him either as she feared what her life would be like without him. The background. If you'd ask her about their relationship, she'd play the victim and never accept any fault for where their marriage arrived (even to this day). Thankfully, he is a little more self-aware of his many short comings. Things aren't always so black and white or good versus evil.

I don't know Alec and it sounds like he had plenty of baggage and demons, but it also sounds like he was putting in the work to be a better person. That doesn't mean he deserves forgiveness from those he abused, but:

"This story isn't about him - after years of therapy and working on himself, he reached out and apologized for everything, and I've forgiven him."

If this is an example of forgiveness, then I hope I'm never forgiven for my past transgressions.

The Internet and social media are such a drag sometimes. I'm all for #MeToo movements, but conflating the likes of Weinstein or Cosby with every accusation that pops up is dangerous. We should be able to appreciate the difference between an army or rape accusations tied back to a single abuser versus a solitary accusation tied to an abusive relationship. I'm fine with #BelieveHer, but should we #AskHim before cancelling him? I know I said I wouldn't get in details above, but Zoe's account reminded me of an re-occurrence in my family. Once or twice a week, my mother would pack her bags and load up the car with her youngest (me) in tow while swearing she was leaving him this time. Sometimes we made it out of the garage. Sometimes to the end of the drive way. Rarely onto the street. We never left.

Crap dude, I can't imagine what it is to go through what you have.

I do appreciate your perspective however. A lot.

 

[Sakura Doritos]

Not just reset era. Netflix got some issues too:

 

[TLZ]

It’s funny. This thread and situation just made me think of a few things. People on the resetera side of things, the people who aren’t swayed by any form of common sense, they look at sites like NeoGAF and have the nerve to call it alt right, or that it’s a hate group.

What I find hilarious, is that the way NeoGAF is now, I find it more welcoming and accepting then ever before. There are totally posts from people on here that I don’t always agree with, but that’s okay, because that’s what accepting diversity really is in my eyes. I love that we can have this discussion and not fear that we will be scolded and mocked for daring to have a different perspective on things. It’s not a welcoming environment where you feel forced to conform to the way things are done, and it legit made me feel like shit when I always had to walk on eggshells on the old gaf, or when I had an era account.

I don’t disagree that maybe people should be told to cool it if they are behaving like an asshole to the community, but that was not the reason that so many people would get banned on old gaf and on current era. It was just because they dared to be different. When I got banned on old gaf, I honestly did not even know much about Zoe Quinn and was just commenting on what I saw, and called it like I saw it. Hell, prior to gamergate, I actually remember enjoying an interview I saw on giantbomb with her, before I knew she was a horrible human being. I had no stake in it, or reason to hate her. Then all of a sudden I was lumped in with gamergate, which I didn’t even know existed at the time lol I was like “uh what did I do wrong”

Like I said though, current NeoGAF isn’t like that right now I feel. I like posting on here now and engaging with you folk. I like that we are allowed to make criticism and not be ostracized for it. Sometimes just having an outlet is all people like me want.

It's no wonder it feels the same there as it used to be here. Same harassing hive mind assholes. Glad they're gone.

Many who have gone with them are seeing them for what they are now and are slowly coming back.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Yeah, this has been bothering me. How does someone forcibly do that without her being able to... I dunno pull his hand out? His hands are obviously too busy to put up a fight. It really does sound like some dom/sub fetish shit that went wrong. I’ve browsed sites like fetlife, being led by the pussy is hardly strange sounding after seeing what shit people are into. This is why I don’t always like these rape accusations long after the fact, because I feel like people like Zoe Quinn think they can give consent, but then take it away after the fact. Sorry, but no.

I was coerced into sex with a woman who was already married, and she knew she wouldn’t get me to say yes sober, so she got me piss drunk. I regret it like hell, but I know it was my fault for not resisting at the time.

It isn’t at all strange or even that hard to do.

Maybe he was a crappy dom who didn’t give good after care. But, I’ve been with women who get off on this kind of thing. Unless she was tied up, she could easily use her hands to push him out.

Subs are always in charge of the scene. The Dom is there for the ride.

I am not going to say he wasn’t an idiot, or a bad dom, but I feel that she is just trying to get attention.

 

[ULTROS!]

Can you imagine like 15-20 years from now and you look back on what you've done? Especially when you have a family?

"When I was younger, I've supported a cancellation of someone who we deemed a blight from society based on what we've read on Twitter."