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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check

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SpartanN92

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And do those places have the massive number of factories set up? With all the tooling required to take over the manufacturing that China currently does? Do those countries also have the massive infrastructure and ports and shipping required to move these products around the world?

I mean your idea is fantastic in theory, the reality is far different though.

Have you not just watched the entire world change in a course of 2 weeks? Did you not just watch over $10 trillion in stock value disappear? Did you not just watch us go from 3.5% unemployment to 15%+ basically overnight?
Reality isn’t what it was last month. Yes this is a radical and drastic change I am proposing, but what just happened can NEVER be allowed to happen again and the party responsible must be punished.

edit: And that’s just the United States! Let alone the rest of the world.
 
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autoduelist

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Im not sure if you have family or not, or our morals are different, but no money can pay for a human life, I would never suggest killing fathers, mothers, grandfathers and grandmothers to save the economy. If you agree with this, then its your decision, but in my opinion, its as inhumane as we get.

The elder will volunteer to die, in order to save the economy...let that sink in. To save the economy...That same economy that pours millions every year into corrupt banks, yet cant seem to put people on top of the list when the shit hits the fan.

That isn't at all what the dude said.
 

Airbus Jr

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Coronavirus: Donald Trump wants US ‘opened up’ by Easter, ignoring experts’ warnings of health risks

US president says reopening businesses is crucial; ‘otherwise, it's going to be very hard to start it up again’. The call to resume business as usual runs against advice from medical experts, who warn that such a move would kill more people.

US President Donald Trump declared on Tuesday that he aims to end strict social distancing measures enacted to halt the coronavirus spread by Easter Sunday – in less than three weeks – to avoid prolonged economic damage.

Speaking in a Fox News interview in the White House Rose Garden, Trump said that strong gains in US stock markets on Tuesday reflect “the fact that we’re opening up this incredible country because we have to do that. I’d love to have it open by Easter.” The holiday falls on April 12 this year.

“More people are going to die” unless businesses are allowed to reopen, the president said. “Our country has to get back to work, otherwise it’s going to be very hard to start it up again.”

Trump has become increasingly vocal in the past two days about the need to end stay-at-home orders imposed on nearly one-third of Americans to slow the spread of the pandemic. More states, including Pennsylvania and Ohio, joined New York, California, Illinois, Connecticut and New Jersey in tightening restrictions.

But Trump is pushing for a stop to these measures, largely against the advice of most health experts, who warn that the spread of the contagion – which causes the potentially deadly Covid-19 respiratory ailment – is not abating in the US.

“Anyone advising the end of social distancing now, needs to fully understand what the country will look like if we do that,” Tom Englesby, head of Johns Hopkins Centre for Health Security, said in a Twitter post on Monday. “COVID would spread widely, rapidly, terribly, could kill potentially millions in the [year] ahead with huge social and economic impact across the country.”

Asked in the Fox News interview whether Trump’s Easter time frame was realistic, Deborah Birx, the deputy to Vice-President Mike Pence in the White House Covid-19 task force, did not answer directly.

Birx instead explained that her task force “tackled this epidemic the way people said we should have tackled flu, in 1918, and they compared St Louis who took this kind of approach to Philadelphia”.

“Every American needs to continue the president’s guidelines for these next six days or seven days. We have to have them following those [social distancing] guidelines,” she said.

According to a St. Louis Post-Dispatch report last week, St. Louis’ death rate was lowest among America’s 10 biggest cities at the time of the 1918 influenza pandemic because of strict quarantine measures that the city imposed when health authorities there saw cases emerge.

“In Philadelphia, where bodies piled up on sidewalks when the morgues overflowed, the death rate was nearly twice as high,” the report said.


Other prominent figures have called for Americans to stick with the stay-at-home orders.

“It’s very tough to say to people, ‘Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner, we want you to keep spending because there’s some politician that thinks GDP growth is what counts’,” Bill Gates, whose Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funds health initiatives worldwide, said in a TED Connects discussion.

“What we need is the extreme shutdown, so that in six to 10 weeks, if things go well, then you can start opening back up,” Gates said, without referring directly to Trump.

However, Trump dismissed criticism of his call for an early return to work.

“I’m sure that we have doctors that would say, ‘let’s keep it closed for two years, let's close it up for two years,” the president said in Tuesday’s interview. “No, we got to get it open. Our people want it to open and that's the way this country was built.”

RIP more people gona die
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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We either die from lack of money (thanks politicians) or via a virus eventually. (thanks WHO, China and Corporate America)

Or waiting in line to spend more money on the groceries that make 99% of their shit in China. Yay getting sick together!
 
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bronk

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Damn this is so fucked up. I have alot of people I care about working at Kaiser over here. I'm gonna talk to them about this.
 

rykomatsu

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Im not sure if you have family or not, or our morals are different, but no money can pay for a human life, I would never suggest killing fathers, mothers, grandfathers and grandmothers to save the economy. If you agree with this, then its your decision, but in my opinion, its as inhumane as we get.

The elder will volunteer to die, in order to save the economy...let that sink in. To save the economy...That same economy that pours millions every year into corrupt banks, yet cant seem to put people on top of the list when the shit hits the fan.

Do you even know what the word "volunteer" means?
 

Cybrwzrd

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The truth would be the people on the trolly will have issues and may die if they don't continue on their journey.

It's not like shutting everything down has zero consequences.

Shut it all down for 2 weeks. Seriously. Everything. And cordon off states from each other. The missing cell phones in China tell me this is far worse than what we all think. When we start seeing 1k dead/day in a week, this economy fear will go away.
 
Shut it all down for 2 weeks. Seriously. Everything. And cordon off states from each other. The missing cell phones in China tell me this is far worse than what we all think. When we start seeing 1k dead/day in a week, this economy fear will go away.

TWO weeks, sure. ??? Weeks or until July has people a little wary.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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Shut it all down for 2 weeks. Seriously. Everything. And cordon off states from each other. The missing cell phones in China tell me this is far worse than what we all think. When we start seeing 1k dead/day in a week, this economy fear will go away.
You mean this?

 

gamerMan

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If anybody still doubts the seriousness of this please read Dr. Craig Spencer's account of what it is like to be an ER doctor In New York. It's heart-breaking and this hasn't yet begun.





 
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crowbrow

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Coronavirus: Donald Trump wants US ‘opened up’ by Easter, ignoring experts’ warnings of health risks

US president says reopening businesses is crucial; ‘otherwise, it's going to be very hard to start it up again’. The call to resume business as usual runs against advice from medical experts, who warn that such a move would kill more people.

US President Donald Trump declared on Tuesday that he aims to end strict social distancing measures enacted to halt the coronavirus spread by Easter Sunday – in less than three weeks – to avoid prolonged economic damage.

Speaking in a Fox News interview in the White House Rose Garden, Trump said that strong gains in US stock markets on Tuesday reflect “the fact that we’re opening up this incredible country because we have to do that. I’d love to have it open by Easter.” The holiday falls on April 12 this year.

“More people are going to die” unless businesses are allowed to reopen, the president said. “Our country has to get back to work, otherwise it’s going to be very hard to start it up again.”

Trump has become increasingly vocal in the past two days about the need to end stay-at-home orders imposed on nearly one-third of Americans to slow the spread of the pandemic. More states, including Pennsylvania and Ohio, joined New York, California, Illinois, Connecticut and New Jersey in tightening restrictions.

But Trump is pushing for a stop to these measures, largely against the advice of most health experts, who warn that the spread of the contagion – which causes the potentially deadly Covid-19 respiratory ailment – is not abating in the US.

“Anyone advising the end of social distancing now, needs to fully understand what the country will look like if we do that,” Tom Englesby, head of Johns Hopkins Centre for Health Security, said in a Twitter post on Monday. “COVID would spread widely, rapidly, terribly, could kill potentially millions in the [year] ahead with huge social and economic impact across the country.”

Asked in the Fox News interview whether Trump’s Easter time frame was realistic, Deborah Birx, the deputy to Vice-President Mike Pence in the White House Covid-19 task force, did not answer directly.

Birx instead explained that her task force “tackled this epidemic the way people said we should have tackled flu, in 1918, and they compared St Louis who took this kind of approach to Philadelphia”.

“Every American needs to continue the president’s guidelines for these next six days or seven days. We have to have them following those [social distancing] guidelines,” she said.

According to a St. Louis Post-Dispatch report last week, St. Louis’ death rate was lowest among America’s 10 biggest cities at the time of the 1918 influenza pandemic because of strict quarantine measures that the city imposed when health authorities there saw cases emerge.

“In Philadelphia, where bodies piled up on sidewalks when the morgues overflowed, the death rate was nearly twice as high,” the report said.


Other prominent figures have called for Americans to stick with the stay-at-home orders.

“It’s very tough to say to people, ‘Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner, we want you to keep spending because there’s some politician that thinks GDP growth is what counts’,” Bill Gates, whose Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funds health initiatives worldwide, said in a TED Connects discussion.

“What we need is the extreme shutdown, so that in six to 10 weeks, if things go well, then you can start opening back up,” Gates said, without referring directly to Trump.

However, Trump dismissed criticism of his call for an early return to work.

“I’m sure that we have doctors that would say, ‘let’s keep it closed for two years, let's close it up for two years,” the president said in Tuesday’s interview. “No, we got to get it open. Our people want it to open and that's the way this country was built.”

RIP more people gona die
Seems to me Trump is more worried about the election than on people. Doesn't surprise me of him frankly.
 

Kagey K

Banned
Fucking Canada.

Cant even pass an aid package bill because Justin decided they needed unlimited spending and taxing laws without having to answer to Parliment until Dec 2021.

Why couldn’t they split that off into a separate bill so the aid part could get passed today to help the 1 mil people that applied for EI last week?

Im not even eligible for any of the money they offered to people that need it and I’m pissed off that they did this. It’s not time to hide politics in a bill that every party agrees needs to happen.
 
At least they're bringing it up which is more than anyone else is doing. 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️






 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
I have a few close friends who are cops and they are really concerned at how this is impacting law enforcement. 911 operators are being trained now if you call and need assistance if you have the coronavirus or any symptoms. If you do and you need police or medical assistance, they have to come in full protective gear, including police. It's causing a spike in domestic violence cases, there is worry labs are too busy to process DNA in certain cases, there are less witnesses on the street, cops who have symptoms have to be pulled off the street, cities are releasing inmates from prison. This virus impacts us in so many ways.
 
More than 6,000 fans attended a sports event in Japan, despite calls for its cancellation
By CNN's Emiko Jozuka

The organizers of a mixed martial arts competition held in front of 6,500 fans at an indoor arena in Japan are facing a backlash after ignoring calls for its cancellation.

The “K-1 World GP” event went ahead at the Saitama Super Arena on Sunday, defying government guidelines on social distancing and large public gatherings.

"It is regrettable (that the event went ahead), as we asked them several times for cooperation,” Saitama Governor Motohiro Ono said in a statement.

Saitama prefecture requested the event be canceled before it was held and relayed the message to the Saitama Super Arena, which provides guidelines to events organizers on its website, but does not enforce a ban on public gatherings.
The K1 event organizers insisted they would take adequate measures to protect the thousands of attendees from the novel coronavirus by providing masks and making sure hand sanitizer was available, in a statement released on March 19.

On that same day, a central government expert panel called on organizers of large-scale events to exercise caution, including canceling plans, to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

 
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NBA All-Star Karl-Anthony Towns says his mother is in a medically-induced coma after contracting coronavirus

Karl-Anthony Towns of the NBA's Minnesota Timberwolves said that his mother contracted coronavirus and is currently in a coma.

Towns said that his mother went to the hospital after not improving over a period of a couple days.

"She kept getting worse," Towns said. "Her fever was never cutting from 103, maybe going down to 101.9 with the meds ... her lungs were getting worse, her cough was getting worse. She was deteriorating."
Towns said that there was a day where it appeared his mother had turned a corner, but the condition of her lungs deteriorated further and she needed to be put on a ventilator.

She was later put in a medically-induced coma.

"It's rough," he said. "Day by day, we'll just see how it goes. We're being positive."


 

Doczu

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So Poland went into full lockdown with only 900 (known) cases. Groups of two are allowed, no more traveling unless for shopping or going to work, sit on your ass at home.

But you know what? On 10th of May we got our presidential elections and they don't want to postpone them. It's even worse than that - all but one candidate (the current president) wanted to drop out of the election, so that they would be forced to postpone it, but they found a way to cock block them - a new challenger appeared, collected 140k signatures to run for president. In a week. During quarantine. We are so fucked, what the virus won't kill, the party eventually will 😂
 

E-Cat

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My guess is that she may have wanted to convey the idea of one distribution has heavier tails than the other, statistically speaking.
Yeah, no. This is like a wide-eyed zoologist having a moment of reading too much into a chimp's behavior deducing they have a theory of mind or something. Because they want to believe.
 

E-Cat

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Airbus Jr

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Chinese restaurant hangs a huge banner to CELEBRATE the coronavirus epidemic in the US and Japan

DAILY MAIL

The controversial banner said: 'Huge congratulations to the American epidemic'

'Long live the epidemic in little Japan,' the sign outside the restaurant also read

The franchise owner was sacked by the company after it faced backlash online

Anti-US and anti-Japan sentiments are deep-rooted among Chinese nationalists


A Chinese restaurant has put up a huge banner to celebrate the fact that the United States and Japan have been hit by the novel coronavirus.

The red banner was placed in front of the restaurant yesterday and read: 'Huge congratulations to the American epidemic and long live the epidemic in little Japan.'

The owner of the local restaurant franchise in north-eastern China's Shenyang has been sacked after the company faced backlash on social media.


The restaurant owner, known by their surname Hui, installed the banner - without alerting the head office beforehand - as an attempt to attract customers, said the franchise, Mama Yang, in a statement.

The food chain said the controversial sign was taken down within two hours and Hui had been detained by local police for further investigation.

'We are deeply sorry for the negative societal effect it has caused,' the statement continued.

It has sparked outrage on Chinese social media after the Japanese press reported on the incident.


'This is so, so embarrassing,' one commenter wrote on the Chinese Twitter-like Weibo.

Another one said: 'It represents a large number of Chinese people with narrow-minded nationalism.'
 

crowbrow

Banned
Chinese restaurant hangs a huge banner to CELEBRATE the coronavirus epidemic in the US and Japan

DAILY MAIL

The controversial banner said: 'Huge congratulations to the American epidemic'

'Long live the epidemic in little Japan,' the sign outside the restaurant also read

The franchise owner was sacked by the company after it faced backlash online

Anti-US and anti-Japan sentiments are deep-rooted among Chinese nationalists


A Chinese restaurant has put up a huge banner to celebrate the fact that the United States and Japan have been hit by the novel coronavirus.

The red banner was placed in front of the restaurant yesterday and read: 'Huge congratulations to the American epidemic and long live the epidemic in little Japan.'

The owner of the local restaurant franchise in north-eastern China's Shenyang has been sacked after the company faced backlash on social media.


The restaurant owner, known by their surname Hui, installed the banner - without alerting the head office beforehand - as an attempt to attract customers, said the franchise, Mama Yang, in a statement.

The food chain said the controversial sign was taken down within two hours and Hui had been detained by local police for further investigation.

'We are deeply sorry for the negative societal effect it has caused,' the statement continued.

It has sparked outrage on Chinese social media after the Japanese press reported on the incident.


'This is so, so embarrassing,' one commenter wrote on the Chinese Twitter-like Weibo.

Another one said: 'It represents a large number of Chinese people with narrow-minded nationalism.'
People here have said that China should be nuked. Not much different. Assholes are everywhere.
 
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