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Why do people think MS will allow Elder Scroll and Starfield on PS5?

lefty1117

Gold Member
I'm sure they will go to other platforms after a year or two of Windows/Xbox exclusivity. This is what Sony does with some of their games.
 
I played ESO religiously from the day it launched until December of last year when I finally gave away everything I had and deleted my characters .

It is the kind of game that some people will play all of the time, I think I went a year or more with no new games at one point .

ESO is exactly the type of game that Microsoft is looking for . Pure money-hat... Under gamepass Users will get the base ESO game fore free but they will need to pay for all DLC and all the ingame transactions that still exist.

The DLC will not be free under gamepass since ESO+ Already costs $14.99 a month and they will not do away with that. My guess is that the poeple that purchase ESO+ will likely not buy gamepass, why pay $30 a month if you mostly pay ESO.

Games like ESO will loose money under microsoft unless they continue to support it. there are thousands of poeple who do not intend to get a new console that spend tons of $ on ESO.

Honestly I expect all games like ESO to be on PS4/PS5 even Halo if they turn it into an ESO.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I certainly believe they will keep it exclusive to Xbox, but I am not sure it may not be the smarter move to keep it on Gamepass for Xbox/PC systems and then release it at full price for PS5.
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Bigger player count but look at the sales ratios especially at launch for these AAA games. PS4 gets the lionshare, Xbox usually anywhere from half to a fifth of ps4 sales and PC starts slow and sells long term when prices drop. Playstation is usually the big money maker and hype builder for full price AAA titles at launch.

Without that slice of the pie your game loses hype and relevance which gets transfered to another game on playstation instead.

Well. As said, people has a reason to buy an Xbox now. Be glad there's competition for Sony. Now they can't go Arrogant and anti consumer like they did the last seven years.

No king rules forever. Don't worry, PS5 still outsells xbox. But now there's a reason to buy an Xbox. Or, there was until the whole library of Bethesda's games became irrelevant.

Also, sonys first party games usually leaves the sales list pretty fast compared to multi plats. As there's low replay value and often not a multiplayer mode.

Now Microsoft has some quality games ya’ll like to compete with.
 

BRZBlue

Member
Until MS is raises GP to $20+ a month or start dropping a ton of their third party titles, very few Xbox owners will purchase the game at FRP, and their usage / non-usage of the game through GP is amortized across the library regardless, why wouldn't you also release it on a non-GP system?

Mind you, I don't think this is their strategy, as I don't believe they think the low-cost GP model can sustain and instead will opt for the Netflix high-content model. Thus, their goal is simply mass quantity on GP to enable iterative monthly price increases.

That's actually a really good point. While MS is going to be getting more revenue from GamePass, they're also going to be getting less from people just not buying full-priced games anymore. That's actually further incentive if they're going to leaving money on the table. That's something shareholders would scream bloody murder about.
 
The "money left on the table" argument is stupid, these games are system sellers and the revenue from increased Game Pass subscriptions, in the long run, is what they want.

The worst part about the desperation, almost entirely from Sony fans, is that they expect it only from Microsoft and only from their Bethesda owned IPs. The logic doesn't follow from say Obsidian IPs and it certainly doesn't extend to Sony.

Bigger player count but look at the sales ratios especially at launch for these AAA games. PS4 gets the lionshare, Xbox usually anywhere from half to a fifth of ps4 sales and PC starts slow and sells long term when prices drop. Playstation is usually the big money maker and hype builder for full price AAA titles at launch.

Without that slice of the pie your game loses hype and relevance which gets transfered to another game on playstation instead.

"Games on Xbox and PC, but not PlayStation, don't sell well and are irrelevant"

Hilariously arrogant and completely disconnected from reality.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
The only hurdle is to make it financially viable for Sony to have GamePass. If Sony still ends up with enough pull and worldwide marketshare after this gen, I could see MS just moving to streaming boxes, or abandoning console hardware all together. Their horse in the race isn't the hardware, its the service. Sony wants to make their exclusive games, and both of these aren't mutually exclusive if MS ends up bowing out of the hardware battle, so long as there's enough money to go around to make things mutually beneficial.

Sony allows EA Access, so I don't see why not. Plus it would keep anyone who really wants TES/Starfield/Fallout on their platform instead of buying Xbox for it.

This is all conjecture obviously, but MS has made it very clear they want their games on every platform.
 
Sony allows EA Access, so I don't see why not. Plus it would keep anyone who really wants TES/Starfield/Fallout on their platform instead of buying Xbox for it.

This is all conjecture obviously, but MS has made it very clear they want their games on every platform.

The day Sony allows Game Pass on the Playstation is the day Sony goes third party.
 

Neo_game

Member
If Microsoft has billions of $ to play around why don't they go all in with games exclusive to only Xbox platform. It will be interesting to see how many millions subscribers and console sales they can have this gen.
 
Depends on when they come out, depends on game pass subscriptions, depends on xboxes sold vs PS5 sold. I can totally see MS releasing them for gamepass and then full price on other consoles.
 

Bankai

Member
Why..? Because they want to make as much money on the game as possible, that's why.

Phil has pointed out numerous times: "we don't care where you play you games, just buy the games / subscribe to gamepass".

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Why..? Because they want to make as much money on the game as possible, that's why.

Phil has pointed out numerous times: "we don't care where you play you games, just buy the games / subscribe to gamepass".

Microsoft did not spend 7.5 billion to get the software sales from The Elder Scrolls.

Phil has never mentioned other consoles, Microsoft have never shipped their IPs, outside of one or two exceptions, to other consoles.

The Bethesda/Zenimax games won't be coming to PS5, but are available if you have an Xbox, PC or Android device. That covers all the bases already.
 

Bankai

Member
Microsoft did not spend 7.5 billion to get the software sales from The Elder Scrolls.

Phil has never mentioned other consoles, Microsoft have never shipped their IPs, outside of one or two exceptions, to other consoles.

The Bethesda/Zenimax games won't be coming to PS5, but are available if you have an Xbox, PC or Android device. That covers all the bases already.

I really think the titles will be timed-exclusives (which sucks as well). But hey, it would be really ballsy if they would bypass PS5 completely ⚫⚫

It will surely help attract way more people to Xbox! I for one would absolutely buy a Xbox Series X if this happens.
 

EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
People enjoy fantasies if you remove exclusives from consoles they’re no longer a threat to Pc
 

NahaNago

Member
Unless Microsoft says it is coming to ps5 , I expect all Microsoft games to be xbox and pc exclusive.
 
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The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
If Microsoft has billions of $ to play around why don't they go all in with games exclusive to only Xbox platform. It will be interesting to see how many millions subscribers and console sales they can have this gen.

Well, I guess that some studios prefer to be independent. On the other hand, Bethesda probably felt the same until a 7. 5 billion pay check arrived.
 
I really think the titles will be timed-exclusives (which sucks as well). But hey, it would be really ballsy if they would bypass PS5 completely ⚫⚫

It will surely help attract way more people to Xbox! I for one would absolutely buy a Xbox Series X if this happens.

Well, if they are timed exclusive you won't know.

It will probably one of those nasty ones where they just drop the PS5 version 1 year later without saying anything.
 

BRZBlue

Member
Sony allows EA Access, so I don't see why not. Plus it would keep anyone who really wants TES/Starfield/Fallout on their platform instead of buying Xbox for it.

This is all conjecture obviously, but MS has made it very clear they want their games on every platform.

I think EA has a bit more margin on Access. Plus, if you buy a discounted game, Sony gets a chunk of the money. If GamePass was on PS5, MS would have to cut-in Sony on some of those game sales, which I don't think there's enough revenue to even think about doing at this point.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
I think EA has a bit more margin on Access. Plus, if you buy a discounted game, Sony gets a chunk of the money. If GamePass was on PS5, MS would have to cut-in Sony on some of those game sales, which I don't think there's enough revenue to even think about doing at this point.

They do that for Steam though. Valve gets a bit of every game sold.

I do not see why the situation would be any different on PS5.
 
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Neo_game

Member
Well, I guess that some studios prefer to be independent. On the other hand, Bethesda probably felt the same until a 7. 5 billion pay check arrived.

I think there are many people who would like to see Microsoft go back to exclusives. They want Microsoft to make Xbox great again lol
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
I think there are many people who would like to see Microsoft go back to exclusives. They want Microsoft to make Xbox great again lol

No they won't. Because in many who owns a PlayStation buying another platform is not an option.

Someone in here even sees Doom and the other franchises as dead and discontinued because it maybe won't come to PlayStation.
 

Alebrije

Member
If Sony manages to put enought consoles in the market MS would care. Also in the case PS5 do not get Elders Scrolls they should help CDPR with Witcher 4. Sony needs to get WRPG asap.
 

Neo_game

Member
No they won't. Because in many who owns a PlayStation buying another platform is not an option.

Someone in here even sees Doom and the other franchises as dead and discontinued because it maybe won't come to PlayStation.

If Xbox has the best exclusives gamers will come. That is how Sony and Nintendo build their brand value and their fanbase.

That's good. That means that he is already on step two "anger" unlike rest of psfans on that site who are stuck on "denial".
I mean, he has a point. Using an old "Sony Pony" style excuse to divert from it doesn't actually address it.

lol. What is wrong in Xbox having great exclusives only on Xbox.
 
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RGB'D

Member
Why, because console wars? :messenger_grinning_smiling:

When Starfield releases in 2023 and its not on PS5 I'll play it at the best settings on PC if you're right.
Sweet! PC is the way to go! But i was alluding to ports based on their track record of porting ori, and cuphead to switch.
 

CthulhuAwakens

Neo Member
Bethesda has been on the decline for a long while now but they have made some really good games in the past. Doom Eternal is pretty amazing. Also Microsoft generally allows their games to PC right away so its not that much of a loss to be honest. Starfield, Elder Scrolls and Doom being console exclusive would go a long way to help MS.
 

Kerotan

Member
Well. As said, people has a reason to buy an Xbox now. Be glad there's competition for Sony. Now they can't go Arrogant and anti consumer like they did the last seven years.

No king rules forever. Don't worry, PS5 still outsells xbox. But now there's a reason to buy an Xbox. Or, there was until the whole library of Bethesda's games became irrelevant.

Also, sonys first party games usually leaves the sales list pretty fast compared to multi plats. As there's low replay value and often not a multiplayer mode.

Now Microsoft has some quality games ya’ll like to compete with.
I'm all for MS competing but I'd rather they don't take the easy option and actually do it by developing their own studios. This move will just make Sony buy shit too and ultimately Sony will remain king and the industry suffers.

I want competition for Sony as the ps5 wouldn't be as good or cheap without them.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
Anyway...

Bethesda havent clarified anything about TES VI NOT coming to PS5...

So my asumption is...

It STILL coming to PS5😄
 
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Lone Wolf

Member
Bigger player count but look at the sales ratios especially at launch for these AAA games. PS4 gets the lionshare, Xbox usually anywhere from half to a fifth of ps4 sales and PC starts slow and sells long term when prices drop. Playstation is usually the big money maker and hype builder for full price AAA titles at launch.

Without that slice of the pie your game loses hype and relevance which gets transfered to another game on playstation instead.
A new Generation is upon us. These games are all next gen only. Xbox will surely do better this time. They have a lot more going for them.
 
I think EA has a bit more margin on Access. Plus, if you buy a discounted game, Sony gets a chunk of the money. If GamePass was on PS5, MS would have to cut-in Sony on some of those game sales, which I don't think there's enough revenue to even think about doing at this point.
This point doesn't get made enough. Gamepass works because MS owns the platform that it runs on or at the very least they aren't competing with a platform holder for a split of the proceeds. On the PS5 if a game is on Gamepass they would want a piece of that subscription because if someone plays a game on Gamepass they won't get the 30% share of the single game sale. On top of that Gamepass gives discounts on games sold there so there would be a reduction of the proceeds even further.

There isn't a great reason for MS to put these games on PS5 and if there was as the OP stated why not put ALL of their games on PlayStation? They would make more money wouldn't they? Why doesn't Sony put Spiderman on Xbox? They are leaving money on the table!

Why, because console wars? :messenger_grinning_smiling:

When Starfield releases in 2023 and its not on PS5 I'll play it at the best settings on PC if you're right.
See this guy gets it. Every PlayStation fan has a fully kitted PC ready to play every Xbox release. Putting out Bethesda games on PS5 is totally unnecessary.
 

Mister Wolf

Member
Honestly they cant see the forest for the trees. Talking about millions that will be missed out for ignoring Playstation to a trillion dollar company attempting to become the industry leader in the growing game streaming market which exclusive IPs like TES, Starfield, Fallout, and Doom are vital to advancing their position.
 
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lefty1117

Gold Member
Yeah but not on Xbox so why would Microsoft put the games they just paid a shed load for on ps

because they don't give a shit if you play it on PC or Xbox, as long as you play it on one of them and either paid gamepass or bought the game. once they think that well has been run dry then they let it go over to playstation, switch, TRS-80 and PregMate Pregnancy Tests.
 
This thread is funny. The only people who think (desperately hope) that these titles will be on PS5 are Sony fans. Reality is they are MS exclusive. To think anything else is straight up denial.
 
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