ArtemisClydeFrog
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What a cringey thumbnail pic. I thought we were done with the boomer soy face. Why does Jaffe take pictures like that, and why does he type like a teenage girl? Not a good look.
You can ask Allen Adham instead lolBecause he says so?
"Oh please believe me!"
He was wrong with the planned timing if you read... maybe it has changed? That happened when you leak things.Then why did he publicly say he was wrong?
Then why did he publicly say he was wrong?
The the name of the game with rumours and leaks.This is the issue with rumormongering. Even if the person telling you things says they're absolutely sure, plans change, and often they have only part of the picture. There's always a fat chance of posting misinformation.
This, without mentioning the fact that people running their mouths usually don't own the announcements they leak. They take upon themselves the responsibility to take away from other developers in their team the ability to reveal their hard work on their own terms, which is a huge dick move. People like Schreier who do business on leaks enable that, and that's despicable.
So he was indeed...wrong.He was wrong with the planned timing if you read.
I am not a fan of leaks but they are sadly just the reality. Companies are getting better at getting ahead of them but its a problem that isnt going to go away.This is the issue with rumormongering. Even if the person telling you things says they're absolutely sure, plans change, and often they have only part of the picture. There's always a fat chance of posting misinformation.
This, without mentioning the fact that people running their mouths usually don't own the announcements they leak. They take upon themselves the responsibility to take away from other developers in their team the ability to reveal their hard work on their own terms, which is a huge dick move. People like Schreier who do business on leaks enable that, and that's despicable.
The the name of the game with rumours and leaks.
I am not a fan of leaks but they are sadly just the reality. Companies are getting better at getting ahead of them but its a problem that isnt going to go away.
I agree - not sure why one of the few real journalists in our field get so much flak. He is a good guy - you do not need to love him but he is doing a good job.Honestly, I cannot disagree more about Jason Schreier. I think it's a great journalist and even if I don't like its political opinion (like the fact that he always speaks about unions), I don't think there as very visible in its articles. Sure, he writes a lot about crunch, but he gives us a lot of valuable informations that we wouldn't have had without him. And he dosn't leak things just for the pleasure of fame, unlike people like Daniel Ahmad.
Jason is a bitch.What's the context behind this?
Honestly, I cannot disagree more about Jason Schreier. I think it's a great journalist and even if I don't like its political opinion (like the fact that he always speaks about unions), I don't think there as very visible in its articles. Sure, he writes a lot about crunch, but he gives us a lot of valuable informations that we wouldn't have had without him. And he dosn't leak things just for the pleasure of fame, unlike people like Daniel Ahmad.
I somewhat disagree. My issue is he doesnt just report. He reports and then spins it in whatever direction he sees fit. A reporters job is to report, not slant it in their own direction. His book was far more compelling as he kept his ego out of it.Honestly, I cannot disagree more about Jason Schreier. I think it's a great journalist and even if I don't like its political opinion (like the fact that he always speaks about unions), I don't think there as very visible in its articles. Sure, he writes a lot about crunch, but he gives us a lot of valuable informations that we wouldn't have had without him. And he dosn't leak things just for the pleasure of fame, unlike people like Daniel Ahmad.
At least he does some actual reporting along with actual interviews with real people. He doesn't just post rumors or make shit up. Sure, some people might have a 'bone to pick' but usually 'where there's smoke there is fire'.Well at least someone pays attention to jschreier.
Honestly, I cannot disagree more about Jason Schreier. I think it's a great journalist and even if I don't like its political opinion (like the fact that he always speaks about unions), I don't think there as very visible in its articles. Sure, he writes a lot about crunch, but he gives us a lot of valuable informations that we wouldn't have had without him. And he dosn't leak things just for the pleasure of fame, unlike people like Daniel Ahmad.
And he dosn't leak things just for the pleasure of fame
At least he does some actual reporting along with actual interviews with real people. He doesn't just post rumors or make shit up. Sure, some people might have a 'bone to pick' but usually 'where there's smoke there is fire'.
Pot calling the kettle black...Apparently, some people love being spun around and pointed in a convenient (for the writer) direction. That's exactly what people like Schreier do to you, and looks like you like it.
I get frustrated because this is life for many people regardless of industry. I work in corporate finance and 5 months out of the year I see my wife an kids for maybe an hour of the day. The rest of the time I’m locked up in the office, grinding it out to meet deadlines. This is life for a lot of people. If you work with competent people, it can also be enjoyable despite the challenges.
Im gonna guess CDPR.so do we have any idea what game or team this will be about?
Let's see- Avengers? More indepth into CDPR/ Cyberpunk?
You don't like him I get that but all their workplace issues he leaked was proved true even with internal corporate emails.
The last one about CDPR is still showing how true it was with a lot of employees left the company and the manage mess it was proved.
Here you go. Jason exposed.
and it's funny that the guy works for bloomberg and he doesn't understand basic economy at all. Comparing salaries in Poland with salaries in California
Pot calling the kettle black...
Opinion and news are two different things. In our time, media outlets (especially in the US after the legislation changed during Bush Sr.) often blurs the line. I actually find that the news articles that Jason writes rarely enters opinion territory. What is funny is that you are angry on him for his opinions stated on Twitter etc by stating your opinion and no facts (i.e. doing exactly what you are accusing Jason of doing which is both funny and confusing at the same time...).
Thank you for your insightful commentary on the industry and the context necessary to relate it to other careers. I appreciate your thorough answer.I hardly take any time off, I do have weekends off but am on call. I work a set schedule but it could change at a moments notice. I picked and made course correction as I was going to school over 12 years ago for 3d modeling, game asset creation.
I saw the amount of loans I had to take out, on top of trying to work on my own project, and talked to a couple friends who already were in games. They said if they could they would have changed to something different. SOME OF THEM ended up leaving the industry all together.
It's not for everyone. But you need to know that this kind of industry is all about making products with deadlines against tons of other companies who are making possibly similar products. It's super competitive, which is why crunch is a thing.
Jason thinks he can help change the industry by shining a light on issues. To a point he has helped at least get the conversation out of the shadows on some of the more heinous stuff that happens. But anything that has intense competition is going to be nuts.
There are studios that exploit their workers like Activision/Blizzard with people pay raises and what not. But to work in those fields you have to understand you are literally doing a dream job. People who have exceptional work tend to work a fuck ton. It's true for everything.
Do you know how much crunch american choppers had for some of their build? Even though a lot of that show was made up drama bullshit, the bike builds with deadlines were not.
I know friends in california who work 12 hour days 5 days a week. And it's in IT.
They get paid for it.
It's their choice to find a new company if they are being treated un-fairly. But when it's your company and its your name on the line you bet your ass your working long days.
Industry needs changing for sure in categories of equal pay, having more opportunities to become a permanent employee if you were contract. But I love people like Jason who dont think Corey balrog started at the bottom and crunched his ass off, same with Jaffe.
You think Corey was not sleep deprived during God of war 2? ANd notice that he didn't start a family till much later in his life when he was in a position that afforded him a little more flexible options for spending time with his kids. Even in his documentary about god of war he notes how little he sees his kids.
It's not for everyone, and I think Jason likes to only focus on bad things and not look at history of studios work and the people who started at the bottom and worked their way to the top, who so happen to be the people who disagree with him.
Here you go. Jason exposed.
and it's funny that the guy works for bloomberg and he doesn't understand basic economy at all. Comparing salaries in Poland with salaries in California
Thank you for your insightful commentary on the industry and the context necessary to relate it to other careers. I appreciate your thorough answer.
This is the kind of stuff that I’m talking about. I doubt this isn’t intentional. A journalist should easily understand countries have vastly different costs and standards of living.
I do think there’s a bit of an exaggeration because some in here disagree politically with him and want to frame it purely as the other side is factually wrong because that has more weight than having a knee jerk difference in politics. Some questions like labor rights are necessarily value laden - as in there is no value free framework to analyze. Notice how some of the same people complaining also sock puppet the majority of developers at a company with their views via claims about unrepresentativenessHonestly, I cannot disagree more about Jason Schreier. I think it's a great journalist and even if I don't like its political opinion (like the fact that he always speaks about unions), I don't think there as very visible in its articles. Sure, he writes a lot about crunch, but he gives us a lot of valuable informations that we wouldn't have had without him. And he dosn't leak things just for the pleasure of fame, unlike people like Daniel Ahmad.
Also, don't give the man too much credit for his "leaks", a lot of them appeared elsewhere before he got his hands on them. If anything, his "connections" just confirm whether or not they're true.
No doubt. Given the kind of dirt digging he does, he'd be a total loner at work. This is him at work:I don’t read his pieces, but man, Schreier is one creepy-looking fella. Wouldn’t want him nosing around at my workplace.
Sometimes, sure. But there are plenty of people that take confidential information seriously. Have I been told things overtime? Sure, by close friends I've made in the industry. But I'd never betray their trust. I also don't pry, what's told to me is what's told to me. In time you find out the industry is a LOT smaller than you may think, so, it's best to not risk anything, haha. I mean, you don't wanna burn bridges.Anyone who works in the industry for a long enough time has people telling them stuff.
The difference is that most don't believe in betraying the trust of those telling them stuff confidentially, or in enabling people who run their mouth at the expense of tens or hundreds of other developers working with them on a reveal. Both things are bad, so people who aren't scum do neither.
Thats sucks. And unfortunately this kind of dirt digging and bean spilling is a game industry kind of thing. Some reason people love to tell the world.Sometimes, sure. But there are plenty of people that take confidential information seriously. Have I been told things overtime? Sure, by close friends I've made in the industry. But I'd never betray their trust. I also don't pry, what's told to me is what's told to me. In time you find out the industry is a LOT smaller than you may think, so, it's best to not risk anything, haha. I mean, you don't wanna burn bridges.
Very true, those that do either are scum, lmao.
I once worked for a studio that was hit with a rough patch, but the higher ups always did their best to be transparent about everything. They did an EXCEPTIONAL job at it too. Door was always open, etc. The one ask was to keep it within the walls of the company, because at that moment the company was talking to a number of potential investors and other folks that were interested in the product. As well as wanting to do other projects with the studio. So, going out and saying anything about the studio's condition at the time could be seen as negative and ruin any chances of getting through it all in a positive manner.
Someone then went on to tell a very well known gaming site, and the news spread like wildfire.
As a result, all of the potential opportunities that were within the grasp of the company flew out the window because this SINGLE person outside of 130-150+ people decided to tell said news site that the studio was in dire straits. The studio was hit with massive layoffs, and a lot of its divisions were closed.
I don't know who this person was or is, but all I can do is hope for the absolute worst for that person. I truly mean that.
*cough*
Anywho, I just personally don't want to give Schreier any credit. I mean, if he stopped tomorrow, I can guarantee you more people would be happy about it than upset.
What a cringey thumbnail pic. I thought we were done with the boomer soy face. Why does Jaffe take pictures like that, and why does he type like a teenage girl? Not a good look.
Need a refresher, what happened with him and ND?Is kinda funny how he stay silence after the ND incident.
Need a refresher, what happened with him and ND?
Who says the US should be the norm across the world?
Why not Switzerland where min wage is about 20 Euros = $24/hr US? US people getting ripped off!
Take a drink every time he says crunch.
And completely downed in about 40 seconds.Probably a full 750ml bottle of Jameson.
We are not saying he's lying but, if you watched videos of Jaffe at his small studio bartlet brothers he's answering someone who ask's him about crunch. And he's literally surrounded by his team who also chime in on what this industry is.
Schrier is amazing at his job, he is really the only guy actually doing investigative reporting. Only other person I know who shows that level of investigative reporting who actually broke stories and not pieces was Patrick Klepek. Who now is more of a writer than a reporter.
But Jason writes giant pieces with weeks to months worth of interviews, sourcing ect. But the way he goes about it to make it informative and unbiased actually shows he's trying to make it like the whole industry is broken. And it's not, it's just a really stressful industry same as any product that has deadlines.
Software developers fall into the same boat, but are less stressed because deadlines are not the be all. WHen it comes to a entertainment product like video games there are hard deadlines because thats how things are funded by investers. Software like antivirus will continue to sell all the time, games and entertainment have limited windows they are up against.
Jason believes most big companies that use similar environments as film need to be uprooted and changed because of their impact on developers. When people that create software for applications have similar crunch all the time, and no one is putting a spotlight on it. People that work on features for MAYA, Adobe crunch and I doubt have the best schedules.
Sometimes a game doesn't even come together until closer to the home stretch. And then you are working against the clock. Sometimes without that pressure of a hard deadline your not looking or as focused which leads to having bugs not fixed.
When has he revealed actual "crunch/overtime" hours? Only thing I've seen is his discussions with a handful of anonymous workers who say exactly what he wants them to say about working conditions and "crunch". I'm not talking about actual news such as Bob Kotick getting bonuses in the midst of layoffs. Schreier is the guy who will make it out like a massive number of devs left Naughty Dog after TLOU 2 was done because of "crunch". He said it was "a whopping 70 percent". People ran with that and were saying Naughty Dog lost the vast majority of their workforce after TLOU 2. But you have to read his stuff very carefully. Turns out it was 14 people out of 20 "non-lead designers". 14 people....out of 500. A whopping 70%. I can't count the number of times I've seen people reference that percentage. I've read elsewhere that it isn't uncommon for workers to leave a studio after a project, especially contractors, but that doesn't help his story at all. I'm not saying there is no truth in his articles. I'm saying I think he leaves a lot of truth out his articles.
As far as his politics, it seems obvious his politics is pushing the narrative that he wants to push. If you think that is irrelevant then fine. I don't.