ethomaz
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Well I should never ask MS to split Xbox One from Series software.There's also a reason why Microsoft does what it does. That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for more transparency though
Well I should never ask MS to split Xbox One from Series software.There's also a reason why Microsoft does what it does. That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for more transparency though
Yup fully agreed there, plus they could’ve delayed the launch, there is currently extremely little problem not having these consoles to be honest. Sony was more ready than Microsoft for sure but both are behind on software.I think both underestimated the market. They could've gotten away with $600 console and slightly higher specs. The prices of smartphones have change our spending behavior, I guess.
Yes. These were the claims yesterday.Do you know what Xbox's increase was year over year in hardware?
1. Xbox hardware revenue up 232%
2. Gaming revenue up 50%, Xbox content + services up 34%
I read somewhere a while ago that MS didn't expect to be able to reduce the cost of making the Series X (due to silicon/memory cost etc) like they could with previous gens, it would be a long time before they could hit a price point for the casual gamer which is why they went for the Series S as well. Anyway is was something along those lines. can't remember where I read it, might have been the digital foundry series s reveal/interview.By the time the casuals are interested in upgrading I suspect the Series X will be cheaper anyway, unless Microsoft want to keep the price artificially high in order to maximise margins.
I'm also uncertain as to whether casuals would be happy with a digital only console. The more casual gamers I know tend to buy physical games and will lend games to one another.
What is PS4 total at now? And yeah, they don't care because MSRP is still $299.2020 has been a disaster for PS4
I guess Sony doesn't care about having higher numbers there and is moving all its efforts to PS5
I guess it turns out Jim Ryan isn't as much as an idiot as some people think...
I said in the previous thread Sony is not making the same mistake they did with PS2 to PS3.2020 has been a disaster for PS4
I guess Sony doesn't care about having higher numbers there and is moving all its efforts to PS5
I hear sales of PS5 have fallen off a cliff in New Zealand.How's it doing new zealand though?
The lack of chips issue and (gaming history record) PS5 launch affected PS4 sales, but isn't a disaster if we look at the bigger picture:2020 has been a disaster for PS4
I guess Sony doesn't care about having higher numbers there and is moving all its efforts to PS5
More PS4 sold would mean more revenue and profit coming from consoles, games and services sold. Price cut won't be coming because they can't produce more consoles, but if possible I'd bet they'd do it. As I said above, they said they will continue supporting the console for at least a couple of years more.I said in the previous thread Sony is not making the same mistake they did with PS2 to PS3.
A price cut on PS4 should be big error.
The focus should be the new machine.
Is there a debate about that?PlayStation is Sony’s trading card that’s the difference between them and Microsoft. Part of the debate is does Microsoft have the CONSOLE experience, are they straight console shooters, pure console makers? The fact that they’re a computer company first keeps the debate alive.
I have the console... we can make a live to show you itIs there any way we or Sony could know if these consoles are in the hands of gamers or in big piles at scalper groups?
No trolling. Just frustration to see record sales numbers without once having seen the console IRL.
Well I’ve seen scalpers having 10+ consoles for sale at least, but I guess I can’t say how long they actually hold them. It’s incredibly frustrating anyway. Especially when interesting games start to arrive. Returnal is my type of game. I guess I’ll get it cheap at least, hopefully the story is unimportant because I definitely won’t be able to keep myself unspoiled until next year.I have the console... we can make a live to show you it
Kidding.
Scalpers only exists to profit... if they are buying consoles it is because they are selling really fast them.... when it start to not sell them they will stop to buy more.
So there is no pile of consoles with scalpers except when they receive them to take a pic... after that they already send to the consoles they sold it... they probably sold them before receive.
87% of those scalpers are actually using those PS5s with the PS+ subscription.That's a lot of fucking scalped consoles!
Amazing success for Sony!!
Agenda ignorance at its best. Believe me, they know. Its a common theme around these parts."How do console launches work?"
If you are complaining there are only 3 games available for a new console.... have you ever seen a new console release???
What is with people pretending they don't understand that early console generations are slow going? Are you pretending you don't know how console launches usually work, or are you really ignorant of the matter?
How many of those are still sitting on the shelves of scalpers? lol
How many of those are still sitting on the shelves of scalpers? lol
Considering how difficult it is to buy one 5 months post launch, they could have sold 30 million easily by now had they been able to keep up. People are starving for next gen systems, and based on the load times alone, for very good reason.
I'm still amazed at Spider-man and Sack boy. Spider-man took forever to load on PS4 and LBP3 was a slog in loading! Even in Demons Souls it's so nice being able to switch from world to world in a few seconds.I moved the PS4 Pro to the living room when the PS5 Arrived.
Figured i could get some gaming in upstairs in certain situations.
Fired that baby up, wait to load, opened a game, waited to load, died, waited to load.
Turned off the system, reset it. Listed it online. Solid in 1 day for $450 Lol.
After using the SSD on XS and PS5. There is no going back. I am spoiled now.
I pressed play on NBA 2k for the first time, turned my head to talk to him for what felt like a couple seconds, and he tells me the game was loaded. Turned my head, and couldn't believe my eyes that he was right. Reading about these SSD's is one thing. But actually pressing play and just playing is jaw dropping. I'm not even kidding when I say I was switching games just because of how quick it was, and for no other reason.I moved the PS4 Pro to the living room when the PS5 Arrived.
Figured i could get some gaming in upstairs in certain situations.
Fired that baby up, wait to load, opened a game, waited to load, died, waited to load.
Turned off the system, reset it. Listed it online. Solid in 1 day for $450 Lol.
After using the SSD on XS and PS5. There is no going back. I am spoiled now.
I'm lost on what you are trying to say. Both launched in November of their launch year, I think.it's such a weird comparison between PS4 and PS5 launch aligned since they were sold in completely different quarters. Hardware sales skew heavily on Holidays period.
There is a reason why quarter results are compared to the same quarter in previous year, not the previous quarter.
This comparison will only make sense once PS5 completes 1 year (and I'm sure it will over perform if Sony can ramp up production).
Huh? Both launched in November. PS4 Nov '13, PS5 Nov '20.it's such a weird comparison between PS4 and PS5 launch aligned since they were sold in completely different quarters. Hardware sales skew heavily on Holidays period.
There is a reason why quarter results are compared to the same quarter in previous year, not the previous quarter.
This comparison will only make sense once PS5 completes 1 year (and I'm sure it will over perform if Sony can ramp up production).
I pressed play on NBA 2k for the first time, turned my head to talk to him for what felt like a couple seconds, and he tells me the game was loaded. Turned my head, and couldn't believe my eyes that he was right. Reading about these SSD's is one thing. But actually pressing play and just playing is jaw dropping. I'm not even kidding when I say I was switching games just because of how quick it was, and for no other reason.
it's such a weird comparison between PS4 and PS5 launch aligned since they were sold in completely different quarters. Hardware sales skew heavily on Holidays period.
There is a reason why quarter results are compared to the same quarter in previous year, not the previous quarter.
This comparison will only make sense once PS5 completes 1 year (and I'm sure it will over perform if Sony can ramp up production).
Unless you're Japanese, no.it's such a weird comparison between PS4 and PS5 launch aligned since they were sold in completely different quarters. Hardware sales skew heavily on Holidays period.
There is a reason why quarter results are compared to the same quarter in previous year, not the previous quarter.
This comparison will only make sense once PS5 completes 1 year (and I'm sure it will over perform if Sony can ramp up production).
PS4 was the best selling console ever for the first few days, first month, first quarter, first two quarters. PS5 outsold all these records, Switch didn't. Sony plans to outsell with PS5 the record PS4 had for its 2nd fiscal year, and seems they will achieve it.it's such a weird comparison between Switch and PS5 launch aligned since they were sold in completely different quarters. Hardware sales skew heavily on Holidays period.
There is a reason why quarter results are compared to the same quarter in previous year, not the previous quarter.
This comparison will only make sense once PS5 completes 1 year (and I'm sure it will over perform if Sony can ramp up production).
Edit: I meant Switch-PS5 launch. Original post had PS4-PS5.
Same.Crazy, and I'm still trying to cop one lol
Cleared Demon's Souls, Platinum Astro, cleared Sackboy and Resident Evil 2 remake and from tomorrow will be playing Returnal.I’d love to know what people are playing on this
Were there concrete reasons for the Nintendo systems shortages?That's what artificial scarcity nets you. I can't believe people stan for that..!
/s for every time that was said for Nintendo systems without batting an eye.
PS4 was the best selling console ever for the first few days, first month, first quarter, first two quarters. PS5 outsold all these records, Switch didn't. Sony plans to outsell with PS5 the record PS4 had for its 2nd fiscal year, and seems they will achieve it.
If PS5 achieves it, it will also mean that it outsell the PS4 record of being the best selling console ever during its first calendar year.
Launch aligned Switch didn't outsell PS4 untile the covid lockdown bump, until then the PS4 had all the records. So for a while the console to beat will be the PS4.
Yep, I would have bought one since ive been playing on a base PS4 lol. Waiting to get a PS5 to play Ghosts and AC Vahalla on it, and replay FF7 and Last of US 2 and others. At this point I think I probably wont be able to snag one til end of summer or next winter after Holidays maybe. Was going to finally do a new PC build but..well..we all know how that is going atmConsidering how difficult it is to buy one 5 months post launch, they could have sold 30 million easily by now had they been able to keep up. People are starving for next gen systems, and based on the load times alone, for very good reason.
I still have 2 PS5 on shelf.None.
Only idiots think Scalpers are stockpiling and not selling to gamers.
Yup fully agreed there, plus they could’ve delayed the launch, there is currently extremely little problem not having these consoles to be honest. Sony was more ready than Microsoft for sure but both are behind on software.
Hardware specs could’ve been better and we would have more games to play.Why do people keep saying the launch should have been delayed? That makes zero sense to me.
The fact that they never release ps5 software numbers while bragging about everything else is a big tell.Is there any way we or Sony could know if these consoles are in the hands of gamers or in big piles at scalper groups?
No trolling. Just frustration to see record sales numbers without once having seen the console IRL.
Well using the same MS weird metrics.
Sony had around 441% increase year over year in hardware revenue.