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[.Pennywise]

UK population: + - 66 million people (66.000.000)

Worldwide population: + - 7.8 billion people (7.800.000.000)


How many times have you seen threads in the likes of "X game tops UK physical retail charts leaving behind Y at number 2 and Z at number 3 making it the best selling game of the week!"

For some GOD KNOWS reason, we take UK gaming charts as some sort of universal info around the gaming industry. What do you think of this?

EDIT: lol at people taking this so personal. Nowadays you cannot ask anything without people being overly sensitive and getting offended. I have nothing against nor pro UK, I was just wondering why UK charts were commonly used as universal info in most gaming dedicated forums/sites, and what people thought of it. And remember Politics are banned in this forum.

 

[Chukhopops]

The UK is completely irrelevant for everything (can’t even score ONE point at Eurovision) and so are their physical numbers, but what else do people have? The other country with proper data is Japan and I don’t think you can extrapolate anything from the sales of Momotaro Densetsu.

 

[Kagey K]

It's not even UK charts it's UK boxed sales only charts, which makes it less accurate as it's only a portion of the entire sales in that territory.

I think the reason so many look to it is that there are very few places that actually report any sales, so they have to look at the physical sales in the UK and infer that it's exactly the same everywhere else.

 

[LazyParrot]

They speak English in the UK, and this is an English language board. Not all that surprising. There are probably way more Brits here than, say, French, Spaniards or Germans.

Happens with other countries too. Anyone else remember people "disproving" claims that PS4 was outselling XBO by a huge margin by quoting sales data from the US, where it was doing significantly better than elsewhere?

 

[BabyYoda]

It's so strange that this bothers you, obviously we are the centre of the universe. On a more serious note, our sales are often 2nd or 3rd in the world for AAA's and console sales.

 

[The Cartographer]

Because most other nations barely track video game sales.
Every other place other than the US/UK/Japan has worthless sales charts for us consumers.

 

[cireza]

Looking at a couple weeks only of physical only sales in UK only (yeah that's three times only), to get to some kind of absolute truth, is pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

 

[SirTerry-T]

The UK is completely irrelevant for everything (can’t even score ONE point at Eurovision) and so are their physical numbers, but what else do people have? The other country with proper data is Japan and I don’t think you can extrapolate anything from the sales of Momotaro Densetsu.

What the fuck has Eurovision got to do with it...other than the fact it shows that the one thing that mainland Europe has in common is their complete hatred for us Brits
Also Eurovision lost any semblance of relevance once Sir Terry of Wogan shuffled of this mortal coil.

 

[lachesis]

It's all about available stats, and fans would gobble up anything.

If everything in the world was transparent and tracked in real time like stock market, maybe things would be different.

 

[kretos]

We should give more importance to india and china sales more ppl live there

 

[nightmare-slain]

Are you American by any chance?

 

[cormack12]

We should give more importance to india and china sales more ppl live there

They are cajuls though

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

Imagine taking anything the fucking Lobsterbacks do seriously, let alone videogame charts.

 

[TheDreadLord]

Is this rage related to XSX ahead of PS5 in the UK (well, at least in April)?

 

[jufonuk]

 

[kretos]

They are cajuls though

 

[Mr Moose]

 

[AV]

What language are you speaking right now? That's why. Germany's a bigger market than us but you're not gonna see much "Dieses schreckliche Videospiel wurde eine Million Mal verkauft!" in English media.

 

[Markio128]

I look at the game charts like I look at the music charts. With very little interest. Saying that, at least I recognise some of the top 10 games haha

 

[TheGodfather07]

It's not even UK charts it's UK boxed sales only charts, which makes it less accurate as it's only a portion of the entire sales in that territory.

I think the reason so many look to it is that there are very few places that actually report any sales, so they have to look at the physical sales in the UK and infer that it's exactly the same everywhere else.

yeh this is it. its one of the places we get regular data for. also alot of forum users are from the UK

 

[Dad_Of_Chicken]

It seems to be the only place on Earth that is reporting its sales numbers (only physical copies sold iirc).

 

[ZywyPL]

Nowadays any sales chart that doesn't include digital sales is basically fake news.

 

[Kilau]

I love them, it’s like posting this:

But seriously any region that provides sales data is fine as long as it’s accurate.

Warriors will spin anything so context is important

 

[MOTM]

Have no idea why people here seem to jerk off to the UK charts since it only reports the 630 physical copies sold per week ... across all consoles and gens.

 

[Calverz]

I feel this thread isn’t going to go well….

 

[MilkyJoe]

Because as we provided you with time zones, the default language of the human race, the Internet, civilisation, radio, radar, jet propulsion, cement, the light bulb, steam engines, railways, lawnmowers, the tank, cloning, and rather on topic, vaccination, her majesty the Queen, heavy metal, the chocolate bar, milk in tea and pretty much everything else worth living for, you'll all just sit down and pay attention. There's a jolly bunch of chaps... What, what...

 

[Woopah]

You're completely missing the point here and the real answer isn't in your choices.

The markets that give us the most information each week are Japan and the UK. That's why we get regular threads about those places. We get monthly information about the US market, so we have monthly threads about the US. If more counties gave us big weekly charts like UK and Japan do then we'd have threads about them too.

Other countries do have weekly charts but they don't give as much information as UK or Japan. The only one which comes close is Spain.

 

[.Pennywise]

You're completely missing the point here and the real answer isn't in your choices

The markets that give us the most information each are Japan and the UK. That's why we get regular threads about those places. We get monthly information about the US market so we have months threads about the US. If more counties gave us big weekly charts like UK and Japan do then we'd have threads about them to.

Other countries do have weekly charts but they don't give as much information as UK or Japan. The only one which comes close is Spain.

Uhhmmm, I am not? That's the reason of the thread Waldo.

If a single country that's about a low percentage of the whole gaming industry, that ends up being even more slanted because it only counts physical sales, deserves to be taken as some sort of universal info around game sales in most gaming forums/sites.

 

[GHG]

Only country that matters.

Brexit fuck yeh independent UK.

 

[Orta]

Beats me. The UK games industry is basically FIFA, Call of Duty, GTA and FIFA.

 

[TMLT]

can’t even score ONE point at Eurovision.

If I was gay i'd be really upset by this.

 

[mcjmetroid]

I think its more of an English Speaking thing.

 

[Impotaku]

Well people like to cover 1st world regions not some 3rd world backwater like the usa.

 

[AV]

Only country that matters.

Brexit fuck yeh independent UK.

I miss Devvo. He got sacked from a teaching job when someone found out who he used to play, pretty shitty.

 

[Woopah]

Uhhmmm, I am not? That's the reason of the thread Waldo.

If a single country that's about a low percentage of the whole gaming industry, that ends up being even more slanted because it only counts physical sales, deserves to be taken as some sort of universal info around game sales in most gaming forums/sites.

But most threads specify that they are talking about UK boxed sales. You're acting like it's a pro-UK bias when really it's just that the UK is one of the few countries giving us good data.

If people make a thread about UK sales and attempt to extrapolate the data to the whole world, I agree that does not work. But when people make a thread saying "here are the physical sales from the UK this week" and then link to games industry.biz article then I see nothing wrong with that.

It's the same with regular US or Japan sales threads. As long as the thread makes it clear it is data from one country then it is completely fine.

At one point I was making compilation threads about all European charts but I haven't got round to that lately.

 

[prinz_valium]

Because they're the only weekly ones with a lot of data besides Japan. But they're western.

The better and more consistent the data, the more you can analyze it.

I just want weekly US data for both $sales and ASP. With all publishers. But that's wishful thinking

 

[Bragr]

Because we can extrapolate the U.K. data to make predictions in other markets because of market similarities.

 

[Matt_Fox]

-Only place that posts the charts

-2nd biggest market worldwide for console gaming

-Lots of us brits on Neogaf, and English is this forum's language

 

[Mobilemofo]

The UK is completely irrelevant for everything (can’t even score ONE point at Eurovision) and so are their physical numbers, but what else do people have? The other country with proper data is Japan and I don’t think you can extrapolate anything from the sales of Momotaro Densetsu.

honestly, using the fuckin eurovision song contest as a yard stick says more about you lot than anything else. It is politicised as fuck. Euro love in..most us only watch for the sarcasm and shit foreign acts anyway. It's just the rest of you that take it so seriously.

 

[Shodan09]

I live in the UK and I think it's stupid. It only seems to crop up when it suits certain posters' agendas anyway.

 

[Fake]

Why you care? You want only Japan?

 

[Fbh]

Because as an English language forum there's probably a decent number of people from the UK here.

Because as far as I know most other major countries don't release their weekly sales, aside from Japan which is usually quite different in taste and doesn't reflect the western market very well.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

I've never thought it was super relevant and I didn't realize anyone outside of the UK did either.

 

[V4skunk]

UK population: + - 66 million people (66.000.000)

Worldwide population: + - 7.8 billion people (7.800.000.000)


How many times have you seen threads in the likes of "X game tops UK physical retail charts leaving behind Y at number 2 and Z at number 3 making it the best selling game of the week!"

For some GOD KNOWS reason, we take UK gaming charts as some sort of universal info around the gaming industry. What do you think of this?

EDIT: lol at people taking this so personal. Nowadays you cannot ask anything without people being overly sensitive and getting offended. I have nothing against nor pro UK, I was just wondering why UK charts were commonly used as universal info in most gaming dedicated forums/sites, and what people thought of it. And remember Politics are banned in this forum.

You mad bro?

 

[.Pennywise]

Why you care? You want only Japan?

I want something more than only UK or Japan

 

[Bernd Lauert]

It's largely irrelevant. We usually don't even get real numbers, just rankings that don't really tell us anything.

 

[eastcoastkody]

its hard to care about the videogame habits of ppl who's main interest is soccer if we're being honest

 

[Alexios]

I mean if you do this and think it's wrong then just stop doing it, problem solved. I only take notice of Japanese and total worldwide numbers. Lately it's been interesting to see the growth in non Japan Asia as well.

That there are actual stats to see from more countries like just USA or just UK or just France or whatever is still good, just to see given habits and what not, even if games can be successful worldwide regardless...

 

[Hardensoul]

I didn't vote, didn't like any of the options. UK is one of the few regions we get weekly sales data. I like to read/know because I like to see how healthy or unhealthy the video game industry is doing. For fanatic console warriors on either side do with the data doesn't matter to me.

 

[jroc74]

I dont see anything wrong with it.

Just dont pay attention to folks that try to use the chart and argue in bad faith. Because like all other charts, the UK is just a region.

Its like some using Media Create charts to push that to worldwide.