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PS2 didn't fail. Neither did PS1.
It was pretty good. But then I played the JP version. I had no idea what the hell was going on but I still remember it fondly. That was still the golden era of imports though. Good times to be in the import scene. The DC/PS2 era had some real import only classics. As I was based in the UK that pretty much meant anything decent had to be imported way ahead of its UK release or in the case of D2 was import only.I really liked it in that weird janky Japanese style, finished it over a weekend.
I then rejected it for a European release, as it didn't make commercial sense
Namco?? You know they develop Soul Calibur, right?DC was missing tons of key third party studios. And no DVD drive which at the time was a big thing.
I think the only key studio that supported DC was Capcom.
All these studios didnt support them (or released hardly any games)
- Namco
- Konami
- EA
- Square
I remember buying a Dreamcast in college and running into a buddy on campus I hadn't seen in awhile the next day. Told him I had picked one up and he just said "don't buy any games for it, stop over to my apartment later tonight".
Went over that night and he dropped two 50-count spindles of burned CDs in my hands. I had no idea what they are he goes "that's pretty much every game out right now, and a bunch of Japan-only stuff. I marked which ones need a boot loader, there's a boot loader disc on top".
That pretty much consumed my weekend, going through every single game and trying them all out. We'd link up from time to time and he'd drop another spindle of games on me, I got exposed to so many random Japanese games it was amazing. I don't think I ever purchased a single game for the Dreamcast and am the reason it died.
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I could not wait for that game to come out. Bought it game store that sold imports, had them mod my Dreamcast, proceeded to beat the game without knowing a single word of Japanese. (There where no strategy guides or any help online at the time). It's kind of fascinating what I thought I perceived of the story to what the story actually was when it finally came to the U.S..Please tell me you played D2! PLEASE!
Soul Calibur after Tekken 3 was life changing.It's remembered so much more fondly than it really deserves honestly. And I was a day one adopter.
The PS was the most modded console in history in fact thanks to Piracy sales of the PS went up and also would imagine the many people bought an OG Xbox for its amazing emuPiracy. And the fact that they designed a system that was so easily cracked.
Yes there was the competition from Sony, etc. But the DC was still selling well enough, I don't think there was ever any solid evidence that DC sales completely fell off the cliff once PS2 was released.
But the fact that anyone can burn their own DC discs at home with a simple CD burner, well, I don't know how Sega was going to overcome that. Once the news of DC being hacked came out it was like a dam broke, everyone was playing burnt DC games within a few weeks.
I think Sega saw the writing on the wall pretty quickly.
So what ultimately doomed Sega and DC was again, their own technical failures.
It WAS easy. Christ, you didn't need a chip or action replay or anything with the swap trick you could do with the OG model.PS1 piracy definitely was not "easy" in the beginning. When it became easy the PS1 already sold a hundred gazillion units so it was not a factor.
DC became super easy to pirate like within a year of release in America. Before it even had a chance to make a solid foothold. The situations aren't the same. No other console had to suffer so much rampant piracy so early in its life cycle.
It had lots of games I wanted to play. It had the awesome SEGA library. Daytona, Sega Rally, Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, House of the Dead, Sonic Adventure, F355 Challenge, Virtua Fighter... Then it had Soul Calibur, Resident Evil Code Veronica, Power Stone, Metropolis Street Racer, Phantasy Star Online... And of course Shenmue, although you are right that nobody wanted to play thatNo one had faith in Sega hardware at the time.
As kids we were impressed by it's graphics, but it didn't have any games we wanted to play.
None of those appealed to me or the kids in my class. 1999 we were all about Pokemon, Smash 64, Goldeneye, the original Rainbow Six, MGS, and Crash 3.It had lots of games I wanted to play. It had the awesome SEGA library. Daytona, Sega Rally, Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, House of the Dead, Sonic Adventure, F355 Challenge, Virtua Fighter... Then it had Soul Calibur, Resident Evil Code Veronica, Power Stone, Metropolis Street Racer, Phantasy Star Online... And of course Shenmue, although you are right that nobody wanted to play that
Yeah, true. I never got into Nintendo stuff, for example. Tried several times, buying a N64 with Mario 64 and Goldeneye day one, then later a 3DS XL and a Wii. But having different options is good, and I was super sad to see SEGA hardware go away.None of those appealed to me or the kids in my class. 1999 we were all about Pokemon, Smash 64, Goldeneye, the original Rainbow Six, MGS, and Crash 3.
But you know, everyone is different.
I like the aesthetic of the Dreamcast. I'd pick one up if I woke up in 1999.
Nope. The swap trick was discovered pretty early, and by the end of 1996 modding PS1s was cake. PS1 piracy was absolutely huge.PS1 piracy definitely was not "easy" in the beginning. When it became easy the PS1 already sold a hundred gazillion units so it was not a factor.
It's not as crazy as it sounds. I've had similar experiences. There was a guy I knew that kept buying me games for whatever reason. My only guess is that he was desperate for friends. Another guy I knew would randomly give me games he had. I suspected he stole them or something. Like one day he got Four Swords Adventures for the Gamecube in box. Brought it over to my house we play it a bit till he said he had to go and he told me to keep it. This was within the week it came out in box with the GCN to GBA link cable and everything.Not to derail the thread, but are you telling me that a college acquaintance of your's upon hearing that you bought a DC ran home after seeing you and burned 100 CDs over the next few hours in preparation for your evening "link-up"? Then, "from time-to-time," he would suddenly burn 50 additional CDs for you?
I remember burning CDs back then. It was a hassle. Also, it sounds like he bought the CDs on his own dime and never charged you anything?
Bottom line - you either won the "acquaintance lottery" with this dude or he had some other interesting motivation for why he made such a superhuman effort to personally ensure that you had every DC game in existence.
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I'm not sure if Piracy was the real reason
I honestly didn't even know how to burn CDs in 1999 (didn't learn until 2001) and I was probably old enough to know how to do such a thing
and if I didn't know then I know alot of others didn't also
also ur average home that wasn't middle or upper class just started getting PCs in the late 90s
we couldn't afford them shits in 1992 like u rich folks on here
PS1 piracy definitely was not "easy" in the beginning. When it became easy the PS1 already sold a hundred gazillion units so it was not a factor.
DC became super easy to pirate like within a year of release in America. Before it even had a chance to make a solid foothold. The situations aren't the same. No other console had to suffer so much rampant piracy so early in its life cycle.
Not to derail the thread, but are you telling me that a college acquaintance of your's upon hearing that you bought a DC ran home after seeing you and burned 100 CDs over the next few hours in preparation for your evening "link-up"? Then, "from time-to-time," he would suddenly burn 50 additional CDs for you?
I remember burning CDs back then. It was a hassle. Also, it sounds like he bought the CDs on his own dime and never charged you anything?
Bottom line - you either won the "acquaintance lottery" with this dude or he had some other interesting motivation for why he made such a superhuman effort to personally ensure that you had every DC game in existence.
Agreed but also you didn't need to chip DC games. They could literally be downloading, burnt and working on a console fresh out of the box.idk. PS1 games were so easy to pirate....my 11 yr old ass was burning PS1 games in my families computer