In fact Gamer Nexus made a video on how a GTX 1060 can crush a PS5 (which is just ridiculous, which I know too well since I have both a 1060 and a PS5) and people didn't lose their minds like they are doing know over this new Horizon analysis.
Not joking. A fucking 1060!Read the comments and you'll see people joking about PS5 Pro targeting a GTX 1070.
My current monitor is aoc or dell, don't remember.
Yes, I do, because again - an uneven framerate is irrelevant with VRR. Do you even understand what freesync/gsync is?
It's not my SC CPU, it is the RAM/Bandwidth most likely causing stalls, if I lower resolution (as I say in the video) it improves. You increase to 4K is just putting more load on GPU and bandwidth not affecting CPU that much.I think most people are being very civil. If this was a DF video where PS5 got even a little flack or a wild conclusion was jumped to it would be 200 pages now with a million personal insults towards Alex or Tom.
It's clear it's his CPU with single core performance of maybe a 2013 to 2015 Intel CPU that is causing drops not his 2070.
I have to go to 4k native before I can get the bridge section to drop to the same level as in his video and even then its only 0.1% lows and it still doesn't drop as low as 46 FPS as in his video - I must have a very strong 2070S:
And here is 1577p which is still more pixels than the PS5:
Should my conclusion be that it's the unified architecture of the PS5 that is holding it back? No, this game is a poor port on PC and a BC game on PS5 so any conclusions you jump to are immediately stupid.
The only conclusion I can come to is that I have a similar GPU to him but a much better CPU and my performance is miles better so clearly this game is CPU bound at higher framerates.
In fact Gamer Nexus made a video on how a GTX 1060 can crush a PS5 (which is just ridiculous, which I know too well since I have both a 1060 and a PS5) and people didn't lose their minds like they are doing know over this new Horizon analysis.
Not joking. A fucking 1060!
At least, i'm glad where have now a more honest reason on your part that rely on belief.
On that, lets be clear I have no view on John's history but he has not been working as long as me as he is quite a bit younger than me and has been a journalist for the past 10 years or so, so much, much less.
Never tried myself but i know what it does.
It seems to me i bring info on the current subject....
What do you think about his statement of "It's equivalent in performance to a mid-high end gaming PC about five years ago, that's where this thing is." at the end of the video (32:50) do you agree with it?
In what way I feel attacked lol the hell are you trying to argue. I just said the level of credit some of you give to them it's surprising. Meanwhile give the fanboy to NXG. I don't see great difference in what NXG does compared to them.
out of 120fps mode, of course not.
Since I don't even know how to read the title I'm very interested in your explanation. 
And if you agree in 120 fps mode you're just wrong. Watch DF analysis (or any other analysis, It doesn't matter at all which one you choose) and you'll see in 120 mode PS5 is running DMCV at "reconstructed 4K" and between "110 to 120 fps" (I'm quoting Jonh and Tom now).
Any idea on how Gamer Nexus got PS5 to dip into the 30s?
I'd love to see a comparison screenshot from before patch and after patch
it depends on the objective of the test(crazy !)... evalutate tech , show differences, compare hardware performance
Not trying to be awkward but I'm not sure I understand your point.
You can get great monitors with good colors and contrast, just not at your budget of 200$
MD ray said he believed the stutters lessened as you traverse the area a bit more. Did you run back thru the same area a few times or just the first. I know fortnite stutters like crazy the first time you play the map and is better the next round.
Apart from gameplay, Fortnite pc always stutters like crazy every time in the pre-game lobby as new players join..…suspect it’s loading in the character skins and dances etc. This does not happen on console - the way the i/o plays out between the architectures is significant here. Not a stretch for these things to manifest in other titles.
When you compare the same game across platforms of various capability the comparison is already legitimate. No one cares to know how they compare? - no such thing.
I agree, I'm just not sure the reasoning is perfectly sound. Game released in a very poor state to begin with and has gotten better over time, but that doesn't mean it's currently a great port either.
Yeah i know, some friends in my ex italian forum were getting in a race for who had the most pricey monitor, i'm never gonna spend that amount of money on a fucking monitor
Why does the 5700xt with the same memory bandwidth not have the issue and performs better?
I didn't see this before my other post and I don't disagree and hopefully someone can help you out with a bit of a selection of gear in the future.
I paid 400$ cdn for mine at the beginning of the year and I'm sure they are cheaper now. 170hz 1440p freesync premium IPS.Yeah i know, some friends in my ex italian forum were getting in a race for who had the most pricey monitor, i'm never gonna spend that amount of money on a fucking monitor
There is someone with a 2070s and 3600 claiming to not have the issues either.
This is why i pay for internet.
The frame-rate dips he saw were very much likely due to shader caching, IMO. Did a fresh install on my 3070/3700X rig after watching NXG's vid, waited for it to complete optimizing shaders, and then jumped into the gameplay at a very conservative 1440p, DF optimized (med-high) settings with a 60fps cap. The result?
Well, see it for yourself:
Oh, before that, here's a quick screenshot of the HW resource monitor to show idle CPU/RAM/GPU util. before booting up the game (0 background apps running except for OS-related tasks):
Here:
It stutters so much initially on the first run to the point it feels unplayable for a moment, but after a while, the perf gets stable when you go into the same location where it stuttered heavily before, there are still one-off stutters here and there but nothing major. So this has got to be shader caching related problem and likely what we see in NX's vid as well, nothing to do with his HW of choice, IMO.
Mind you, the CPU I'm using is slightly faster than PS5's and what Michael has used in his vid and the GPU is also quite a bit more powerful + I'm putting a lot less rendering load on it, yet I see some nasty hitches, frametime spikes, something that not even PS4 suffers from. The PC version definitely has issues and isn't as stable as the console versions as he concluded at the end.
Here's HZD's CPU cores utilization if anyone's curious:
What I am saying is the game is using the System Ram and Shader Cache often, this means it suffers GREATLY from System Ram speeds and PCIe speeds.
I'm still confused what makes PS5 version the 'best' , when you can run the game at capped 60 fps at double the resolution and with higher settings on PC ?
I think you nailed it. He’s a special kid this Alex especially when he feels the need to inject that he doesn’t play console games into discussions as often as possible.
This thread has gotten way off topic. But in case you're interested then I ran the game through Intel's VTune profiler and it doesn't seem very bandwidth limited at all. This is especially true at 60fps where my system only averages ~13GB/s of its ~35GB/s realistic maximum.
Richard Ledbetter - Alex we need a new HZD PS5 comparison to pc stat….Alex from Digital Foundry is not a hypocritical PCMR fanboy.
He should totally make a comparison and list all the advantages ps5 has, since apparently noone else is capable.
