• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Influencer Scams Gamers in Pakistan Out of ~$7m w/ PS5 and RTX 30 Series Card Pre-Orders

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?

ZipTech & Absolute Tech are involved in a scam of more than PKR 145 CR. Both owners have allegedly left Pakistan for Turkey. Moreover, they have laundered the money as well. People who have been scammed are left with no hope. Both parties have also applied for UK immigration. This news comes from Muhammad Ali Shahid, who posted all the details about the scam.

The owner, Muhammad Hasaan aka Major Zippy, came up with the idea of pre-orders. He started dropshipping and making PC builds. However, the real scam started when RTX 3000 series and PS5 dropped. He listed prices close to MSRP claiming to be buying directly from the vendors. He received a massive response. After a while, he received bulk orders and payments and suddenly vanished from the scene.


PKR 145CR is approx ~7 million USD.



This is the guy

aE8NwGM_700bwp.webp
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
$7m in turkey is alot of money.

That is 114m Turkish lira.
And the picture of him is sitting in a business class pod on a middle eastern airline. I know because I've sat in those same pods many times flying to Doha or Dubai. My joke was that if he had $7m he could have sprung another $5K for the first class cabin.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
And the picture of him is sitting in a business class pod on a middle eastern airline. I know because I've sat in those same pods many times flying to Doha or Dubai. My joke was that if he had $7m he could have sprung another $5K for the first class cabin.
I'm not sure how recent that picture is, probably something older. I can't imagine the guy would be brazen enough to post selfies as he's flying away after scamming folks.
 

Pelta88

Member
I've never understood the phenomena of scammers showing off their ill-gotten gains on social media. Like, are they really risking their liberty and freedom just to flex on instagram?

Are likes aka the tap of a screen, touchpad, or mouse really worth years in prison.
 

kingfey

Banned
And the picture of him is sitting in a business class pod on a middle eastern airline. I know because I've sat in those same pods many times flying to Doha or Dubai. My joke was that if he had $7m he could have sprung another $5K for the first class cabin.
Who says he didn't? Guy was smart enough to secure that $7m, plan for his escape, and secure himself a place in UK.
 

kingfey

Banned
I've never understood the phenomena of scammers showing off their ill-gotten gains on social media. Like, are they really risking their liberty and freedom just to flex on instagram?

Are likes aka the tap of a screen, touchpad, or mouse really worth years in prison.
Who is going to catch them?
Most of the time, it's expensive to locate and abrehend these people, if they are from overseas.
Unless you are a bigger fish, most of the time, these low timer scammers get away easily. Unless they are very stupid, and leave trails behind.
 

Reallink

Member
I'm assuming Turkey/UK doesn't have extradition treaties with Pakistan? Or Pakistan doesn't pursue this type of crime beyond borders?
 
What absolute fucking shitstains.

Pakbros stay strong. The community should help get these fuckwads back into your country. How's your extradition laws btw, i.e. how corrupt are your politicians?
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Maybe he knew and that's why you got yours :D
You got yours because you live close to him lol
Haha yeah he knew I live close to him, but that wasn't the reason. All other people in my batch got their PS5s on the promised date.

He was building his reputation back then (December 2020). Only taking limited orders (which he knew he could fulfill), approximately 40-50 PS5s only. Then when he started getting more pre-order requests because of his good rep, he started doing bigger batches, around 500-600 PS5s. A few batches like these (along with the GPU stuff that he never delivered), he got the money he wanted and just ran away.

I talked to that guy multiple times, and he always seemed like the nicest person. Turned out he was a total piece of shit though.
 

Pelta88

Member
Who is going to catch them?
Most of the time, it's expensive to locate and abrehend these people, if they are from overseas.
Unless you are a bigger fish, most of the time, these low timer scammers get away easily. Unless they are very stupid, and leave trails behind.

It's not a phenomena that is location based. Criminals worldwide have an insane habit of showing / detailing their criminal activity on social media.

My mind remains blown as to why.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Who is going to catch them?
Most of the time, it's expensive to locate and abrehend these people, if they are from overseas.
Unless you are a bigger fish, most of the time, these low timer scammers get away easily. Unless they are very stupid, and leave trails behind.
Oh we are setting a fielding for him. He'll get caught. Not through Pakistani/Turkish law agencies though.

Coming Soon Wink Wink GIF by Age Of Empires Community
 

//DEVIL//

Member
with big a number like that, even if you fly to Turkey you will be followed by the Interpol. this is not a small amount for them to ignore and just blacklist you. especially coming from countries like Pakistan where money should have a valid source of income
 

Atrus

Gold Member
It’s up to Pakistan to pursue charges overseas. What he did is illegal in Turkey and the UK, so he can be detained by local police if there’s an international warrant for his arrest.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Thats why I never buy anything online except from big name stores, with exception of rare hard to buy small items from small shop places with a brick and mortal store. Like one time bought some unique beer mugs from a collectibles shop in West Edmonton Mall and had it shipped over. And Kijiji for a few times to buy some old DVDs back in the day, which were out of print and a $20 glass table countertop. That's it. If they want to rip me off, fine. You can scam my $20-30 for broken items. They all were fine.

No way I'd ever risk money online for anything sizable like buying $1000 gpus from some influencer indie dude.

That's like going to a flea market and giving the dude at the dusty table $1000 and him saying he'll call you soon when he's got it to come on over.
 

mansoor1980

Gold Member
And they just ousted as Prime Minister the only guy who was clean, Imran Khan. 🥺

Usman Buzdar will take revenge though.

0MhXTbb.jpg


He'll reinstall Imran Khan as PM as well as track this fraud Major Zippy (Hasan) who took away with the PS5 money.


should be bat khan vs super sharif but still prety funny
 
Last edited:

Solarstrike

Gold Member
That’s a lot of scammed people.
I assume he’s off to the UK in search of fresh victims.

Unless he rearranges his face and moves into a mud hut in the remote region of the Mojave, he won't get too far from the global facial recognition systems. :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:
 
I actually got my PS5 from this guy (Hasan) 😄 He was just building his rep back then, so he delivered the product without any issue. Timely delivery, no problems.

Fun Fact: His house is a 5-minutes drive from mine.

Did he sell it at MSRP or if Sony doesn't have an official presence in your country, close to US retail pricing?

On a scale of 1 to 10 they are at around 12000 corrupt

Dang. So, extradition is out of the question.

Oh btw, you have contacts with PMC's or local militia who have international contacts? They might help you out, for payment, of course. The target most probably is trying to get to countries where extradition is next to impossible though, but I'm sure tracking them is the easiest task.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Did he sell it at MSRP or if Sony doesn't have an official presence in your country, close to US retail pricing?
Yes, the price was close to US retail pricing.

More context: Sony doesn't sell PlayStations here officially. The retailers who imported PS5s were charging premiums. Initially the prices were around $900 USD (this included some necessary additional costs such as import duties, shipping charges, handling charges, etc.). It then eventually fell to around $750-ish. All these were retail sales, by the way. You could order online/visit the shop, pay $750/$900, get the console right then and there.

This guy opened pre-orders with 100% amount to be deposited by the customer. Delivery would be after 2-3 months. The price was ~$530, which was amazing. The guy had built a lot of good reputation in the community and won several awards in the local community for being reliable and offering good imported products at a significantly better rate. So people bought from him. And he delivered. For multiple years he delivered everything just fine.

Until he didn't and just ran away with all the money.
 

Nickolaidas

Member
Yes, the price was close to US retail pricing.

More context: Sony doesn't sell PlayStations here officially. The retailers who imported PS5s were charging premiums. Initially the prices were around $900 USD (this included some necessary additional costs such as import duties, shipping charges, handling charges, etc.). It then eventually fell to around $750-ish. All these were retail sales, by the way. You could order online/visit the shop, pay $750/$900, get the console right then and there.

This guy opened pre-orders with 100% amount to be deposited by the customer. Delivery would be after 2-3 months. The price was ~$530, which was amazing. The guy had built a lot of good reputation in the community and won several awards in the local community for being reliable and offering good imported products at a significantly better rate. So people bought from him. And he delivered. For multiple years he delivered everything just fine.

Until he didn't and just ran away with all the money.
Sounds like a true Chessmaster villain, playing the long game.
 
Top Bottom