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[jigglet]

Firstly let’s assume we need to see them. Let’s assume developers are all contractually required to show them so let’s forget about being idealistic about how we’ve paid for the game anyway.

So my thinking was - why don’t console makers agree to give you the option have them on rotating loop on the home menu OS, like where they advertise shit already.

That would be a huge selling point IMO - every game on the platform being insta-bootable into the main menu. No one likes to see ads but 1) they already try to sell us shit on the Home Screen anyway, and 1) as I said we should assume all these unskippable logos are contractually required to be shown to us, let’s assume there’s no escaping them

 

[March Climber]

Even if there's no way to make them go away, they should at least make them as fast as they used to be on older cartridge consoles.

This is one of those instances SlimySnake is right where cross platform is still hurting us.

 

[mitch1971]

Turn the game on, then go and make a brew, a sandwich, or a joint. When you come back it's on the start screen.

 

[Guilty_AI]

 

[jshackles]

I'd rather be able to skip them with a button press, rather than have them looping in the OS.

If a game is particularly egregious, then I usually try to play it on PC (if available) because on PC you can typically rip those out so that the game launches instantly to the main menu.

 

[iamvin22]

This is my area within the industry. Not going to happen. The amount of legal attention that goes into these games is nuts. Just 1 can hold your game back from submission to all 3. We literally have to have internal lawyers do legal passes to approve the game going forward.

The worst are credits. Sometimes during dev some smart ass will incorrectly spell EU names wrong and that easily accounts for a new build.

 

[brian0057]

The PCGamingWiki always has a section on how to skip the intros (logos at the start).
I've never used them because I can tolerate them but YMMV.

 

[Trunx81]

I would rather forbid black loading screens on the switch, so that i don’t have to see my ugly ass face in the screen reflection.

 

[jigglet]

I would rather forbid black loading screens on the switch, so that i don’t have to see my ugly ass face in the screen reflection.

Lol agreed

 

[TGO]

 

[DonF]

Some PS5 games skip them altogether via the activity card. Its great. But i've seen it in just a couple of games. Final Fantasy VII Remake and Astro.

some stupid games skip them this way, but have a connecting to server loading and i hate that. and some games the activity card does fucking nothing.

 

[ReBurn]

They make medicines that help with this level of adhd

 

[MDSLKTR]

Quick resume is your savior.

 

[RoboFu]

The best way I’ve seen is the games that let you skip any cut scene but gives you a menu to rewatch them.

 

[Slicker than your average]

If you're on pc you can mod them out. Example Warhammer 3 goes straight to the main menu. Them screens are fucking annoying..

 

[RoadHazard]

As mentioned, a lot of PS5 games (definitely not all though) only show them the first time you start the game (or at least a specific version of the game - I believe they show up again whenever the game has been updated, for some reason).

 

[adamsapple]

On PC ? You can check PC Gaming Wiki, a good many number of games have the option to skip.

On console, I guess quick resume and/or rest mode is the sure fire way to get back straight to the action.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Quick resume is your savior.

Was just about to say this, a brilliant feature

 

[Icymanipulator]

Ability to skip them would be enough. Many games already let you do this, should be a standard feature

 

[nush]

This is my area within the industry. Not going to happen. The amount of legal attention that goes into these games is nuts. Just 1 can hold your game back from submission to all 3. We literally have to have internal lawyers do legal passes to approve the game going forward.

The worst are credits. Sometimes during dev some smart ass will incorrectly spell EU names wrong and that easily accounts for a new build.

Correct, sounds like you have a job I used to do.

 

[Nok Su Kow]

I always look away so they don't win

 

[iamvin22]

Correct, sounds like you have a job I used to do.

Fun job in my opinion especially if the legal team is nice

 

[Puscifer]

If it's that serious just play on PC

 

[Trunx81]

Lol agreed

 

[StreetsofBeige]

What's the purpose of these splash screens anyway?

If a game engine maker promotes the game engine with an unskippable intro, is the purpose to promote the engine so other game studio employees who play the game see it and suddenly they say to themselves "Hey let's copy them and sign up for that game engine". I dont see the average gamer giving a shit.

I dont see electronics or chip makers having mandatory boot up screens saying "built by Applied Materials" (they help companies make semiconductor/electronics).

 

[Captain Toad]

The best way I’ve seen is the games that let you skip any cut scene but gives you a menu to rewatch them.

That's cool and all, but not the conversation at hand.

 

[Kilau]

What's the purpose of these splash screens anyway?

If a game engine maker promotes the game engine with an unskippable intro, is the purpose to promote the engine so other game studio employees who play the game see it and suddenly they say to themselves "Hey let's copy them and sign up for that game engine". I dont see the average gamer giving a shit.

I dont see electronics or chip makers having mandatory boot up screens saying "built by Applied Materials" (they help companies make semiconductor/electronics).

Part of the license agreement I imagine. Maybe they give a discount if you include the splash screen like when getting work done on your house and the contractor wants to put their sign in your yard.

 

[Melfice7]

Killzone on PS4 did this didn't it? Booted straight to menu

 

[Ozzie666]

Get used to it, I'm still waiting for forced advertisements to supplement Gamepass and Psplus, you know it's coming, or ads in the bottom corner of the game.

 

[jigglet]

I always look away so they don't win

lmao

 

[jigglet]

Get used to it, I'm still waiting for forced advertisements to supplement Gamepass and Psplus, you know it's coming, or ads in the bottom corner of the game.

Shit you're right.

You know what offends me - Amazon Prime. Why the fuck are you serving me up ads when I've already paid for your service. I'm not talking about the home screen - I'm talking about while I'm trying to actually watch a show. wtf is that shit.

I experienced a similar thing when I bought my Apple TV 4k recently. Apple have made like 3 attempts now via notifications and so forth to get me to accept their 3 month free trial of Apple TV+ ....fuck off would ya, I've paid for your hardware, your cloud service, and I've said NO once. I don't care if it's free. Don't keep asking me.

 

[.Pennywise]

-novid

 

[Black_Stride]

What's the purpose of these splash screens anyway?

If a game engine maker promotes the game engine with an unskippable intro, is the purpose to promote the engine so other game studio employees who play the game see it and suddenly they say to themselves "Hey let's copy them and sign up for that game engine". I dont see the average gamer giving a shit.

I dont see electronics or chip makers having mandatory boot up screens saying "built by Applied Materials" (they help companies make semiconductor/electronics).

If im publishing your game my name better be front and center on that Splash screen.
I want people to know I believed in your game and know what im doing when I chose to publish a game.
If your game is good chances are people now also buy other games I published.


You used my physics engine?
Well no one is gonna watch the fucking credits to find that out, so imma stipulate that you put that at the start of the game.
Is it for the average 14 year old? NO.
Will other devs/pubs now know we make a hell of a physics engine cuz it powers game X? Yes

 

[sankt-Antonio]

I really had high hopes that Killzone Shadowfall, the PS4 launch title would save us from this. It booted straight to the start menu. No logos no nothing. They even advertised this as a feature.

Why Herman have you forgotten this?
I already bought the game, no need to tell me what engine was used or who’s slave labor was needed to put the game together.

 

[Naru]

This isn't true though. You will not see them if you use rest mode even if you close the game but if you shut down or restart your console at any time it will show them again for the first time you start the game. That is how it works for me anyway.

 

[Ozzie666]

Shit you're right.

You know what offends me - Amazon Prime. Why the fuck are you serving me up ads when I've already paid for your service. I'm not talking about the home screen - I'm talking about while I'm trying to actually watch a show. wtf is that shit.

I experienced a similar thing when I bought my Apple TV 4k recently. Apple have made like 3 attempts now via notifications and so forth to get me to accept their 3 month free trial of Apple TV+ ....fuck off would ya, I've paid for your hardware, your cloud service, and I've said NO once. I don't care if it's free. Don't keep asking me.

Off topic I know, but even if you look at something on Amazon, add it and remove it from your cart - they send you predatory emails about the item. They are pretty relentless. Amazon would be humorous in the gaming industry.

 

[elbourreau]

 

[OZ9000]

The good thing is that you can skip intros on the vast majority of PC titles.

 

[nightmare-slain]

The good thing is that you can skip intros on the vast majority of PC titles.

and if not: mods.

 

[BusierDonkey]

On PC you can disable them in most games either through mods or in some cases just deleting some files.

 

[Rykan]

Firstly let’s assume we need to see them. Let’s assume developers are all contractually required to show them so let’s forget about being idealistic about how we’ve paid for the game anyway.

So my thinking was - why don’t console makers agree to give you the option have them on rotating loop on the home menu OS, like where they advertise shit already.

That would be a huge selling point IMO - every game on the platform being insta-bootable into the main menu. No one likes to see ads but 1) they already try to sell us shit on the Home Screen anyway, and 1) as I said we should assume all these unskippable logos are contractually required to be shown to us, let’s assume there’s no escaping them

Because this isn't about console manufacturers. The decision to have sponsored logo's at start up is a decision made by the publisher of the game. Why would they give that control away to a console manufacturer? And how would a rotating logo even work? You're going to have every single logo up there on rotation? Why would any publisher agree to that when they are not at all equal?

A start up Logo is far more effective marketing then some logo on the dashboard that you can ignore.

 

[rofif]

Can you Skip all of these if you load the game from card on ps5?

 

[nightmare-slain]

I would rather forbid black loading screens on the switch, so that i don’t have to see my ugly ass face in the screen reflection.

 

[KyoZz]

Here is two easy steps:

1) Play on PC.

2) Google "no intro fix + name of the game" and you are good to go.

 

[RPSleon]

In modern warfare 2 (the first one) you could hammer x and just skip through them all and get straight to the main menu.

 

[AV]

"Skip intro cinematics" are usually the first mods made for PC games.

 

[winjer]

This is not an issue on PC.
Just check PCgamingwiki for solution for each game.
Most of the times it's as easy as deleting or renaming a file.

 

[Soodanim]

As much as no consumer wants to see the logo screens, there's one thing that so many companies are missing when we are forced to see them. All of these have something in common:








You can't force logos on people and expect them to give a shit. If you give the senses something to recognise, you will eventually create recognition. Since recognition is at least one of the goals of putting the logos in our faces, make it worth paying attention to.

Here's a recent example, Elden Ring:


Not only does it blind me to sandwich a white screen between black screens, but I have no reason to pay the slightest bit of attention.

Just let people skip them after the first viewing, because if they want to skip they will probably just check their phone if they can't. Because they don't care. They want to play a game, not get to know the people that made it.

 

[Labadal]

On pc, some games can be "fixed" with some ini-file tweaks, or deleting a few files.

 

[Edgelord79]

It would be fine to see them the first time the game is loaded. After that it’s a pain and I would want to skip all the logos, etc…

Although this isn’t going to happen. Corporate branding is important to companies and they should be there when starting the game for the first time at least.

Unskippable starting cinematics can be much more egregious to me. Even then, it’s not a huge deal. Quick Resume has largely made this irrelevant for me as I can just jump right back in on a variety of games.