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Gaikai Streaming Service: Either Sony or Microsoft Will Bow out of the console race
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Barkley's Justice
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assuming she's referring to sony, why in the world would sony spend tons of money launching and marketing vita and then sit out, of all things, the next-gen console race. yea right...
I'm kind of in the market for a new sandwich maker, this current one is getting a bit old.
New line of pies? With exclusive fillings? Sign me up.
Never was a big fan of cappuccino, still gonna see what it brings to the table.
It will still be a console, so how is it bowing out exactly?
Stringer is still CEO, it would be the 'crown' on his work because he wants to make Sony a 'content company'.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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because vita is the ps4
Sidewinder
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No it's actually the PSV aka PS5 so the PS4 has already been released...Experia Play maybe?
Kinect's lag was just MS's way to acclimatize users to the experience of streamed games...it all makes sense!
butter_stick
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Do Sony really need a PS4? Really? They're never going to win the battle for the living room, so why not just bow out now gracefully?
Nintendo doesn't exist, eh? Well damn.
butter_stick
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Seeing as next gen doesn't start until Sony says it does, the industry is basically going to be in a vacuum. There is no next gen.
bigtroyjon
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What's the old saying? It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool than to open it and let everyone know you are.
360 gen has almost certainly been profitable and the 360 is currently making more money per year than the best year Sony ever had with the Playstation.
AceBandage
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MS slips out.
Nokia slides back in...
All according to plan.
Nokia slides back in...
All according to plan.
Not with what they have to offer currently, which they don't even really know what they're doing with yet.
Nintendo is in it's own lane with it's New Gen machines, remember?
Nintendo once again said they don't care what their competitors do. So you won't see Nintendo and Microsoft competing in the Killzone/Halo, Gran Turismo/Forza, Uncharted/Gears of War etc. way trying to 1-up each other every step of the way. With Nintendo the line-up for fall 2013 could be Steel Diver U and Wii U Music because they don't give a fuck.
Well they have a nice lane and I like their lane, so no biggie
BlazingDarkness
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Don't Sony have like 15 studios under their belt in the gaming sector? Isn't it unrealistic to assume they'll be bowing out?
Whereas you have MS, who dropped(?) studios/exclusive contracts (Bungie) the past year or so, and put some of their active studios like Rare on to Kinect centric stuff? It seems more realistic to assume that MS is going a more ambitious route and working on a Kinect focused general entertainment product (TV/PC divergence) and bowing out of the console race
Whereas you have MS, who dropped(?) studios/exclusive contracts (Bungie) the past year or so, and put some of their active studios like Rare on to Kinect centric stuff? It seems more realistic to assume that MS is going a more ambitious route and working on a Kinect focused general entertainment product (TV/PC divergence) and bowing out of the console race
[Nintex];34196310 said:
^ this is the nicer, less asshole-ish version of my earlier post
I'm a MS dude myself but c'mon Sony needs to be there because MS double checks what Sony does before it makes a move.. Not Nintendo. Everyone's eyeing the casual market and looking to eachother on what to do to improve what they offer, and Ninty might have kicked some of that off with its bold moves with the Wii that helped expand the industry a fair bit, but when it comes to the kind of gaming experiences Sony/MS consistently fight over market control over, there needs to be competition. And the experiences and philosophies that Nintendo has are different from the other two. Whether they be good things or bad ones; they're plain different. That much is clear.
Works vice-versa for Sony with MS too.
radioheadrule83
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I wouldn't miss Sony at all! There is just no way this is true though...
Even if it's one of the manufacturers taking a shocking approach though... that would make e3 so amazing!
e3 hype increased
Even if it's one of the manufacturers taking a shocking approach though... that would make e3 so amazing!
e3 hype increased
TaroYamada
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Got bad news for you, it's $60
The surprise here would be MS, if they went OS, tablet and mobile phone with a streaming service.
The plan all along was to topple Sony and it worked. But there is no way MS will partner with someone else to pull this streaming service off. I imagine they have all the know how to pull it off themselves.
Interesting: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/11/us-microsoft-video-idUSTRE80A1KL20120111
The plan all along was to topple Sony and it worked. But there is no way MS will partner with someone else to pull this streaming service off. I imagine they have all the know how to pull it off themselves.
Interesting: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/11/us-microsoft-video-idUSTRE80A1KL20120111
I don't quite get this argument, because those studios will still be working on games but on maby a multiplatform basis. It will be hugely profitable for Sony, because they are selling it on multiple platforms. People still seem to forget that the PS3 destroyed their PS1 and PS2 profit, two generations of profit gone. There having a hard time as a company as a whole too.
This whole speculation doesn't hold much weight though, if there are clear signs and rumours that the next Xbox will be unveiled at E3, then that leaves them out of the equation. Why believe all other MS rumours and not this one? Just to fit this speculation's criteria? Why did MS then invest into new studios? Doesn't seem to hold much weight does it?
But if it wasn't for MS, Sony's online service would be worse then it is. Competition is a good thing!
Kinect isn't very hardcore
Phonomezer
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Yeah, my fave Rare games are Halo, Forza and Fable.
Infinite Justice
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It already did :O
BlazingDarkness
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Because MS have always aimed to take control of the living room, and I think that the whole Metro/Windows 8/Kinect direction they've been going is a pretty big departure from the traditional console race, and realistically I don't think they're going to try and juggle both of them
Whereas Sony have been pretty predictable since the start, fully invested in a more traditional market and given their portfolio of franchises and developers this generation, nothing much has changed from that
I just think if one of them were to 'bow out', it would be MS because they are more ambitious to capture a larger market, taking a similar radical move Nintendo made with the Wii
Sony can't catch a break.
The it would not be "bowing out", it would be opening your console up to a new audience. The console will still be there, play games and offer other services. Sony will also be doing this.
bigtroyjon
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Because it hasn't been the most profitable for years and has lost billions upon billions since the PS3 launched.
BlazingDarkness
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It would still be 'bowing out' of the console race, in a traditional sense
There would be no 'xbox #' console itself, just a service across various current devices
Yep, similar to what is in that article.
It just feels more likely MS would be taking this step first, considering their slant towards the Kinect/Metro in the past months
All signs and rumours point to there being a dedicated console, so that will stay. So still not seeing the whole "bowing out" aspect.
comedy bomb
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And the plan is game industry orgy.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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It was nice knowing you, Atari.
Jesus, so many misinformed people in this thread. Fun!
Sony and Microsoft both want the living room, but only Microsoft has a competent plan for it. They've got the lock on content distribution strategy and it's consistent across all their products (WP, Xbox and soon Windows). Sony's strategy doesn't seem to have any direction or cohesion. For the past six years, we've seen Microsoft evolve their machine into a total entertainment solution through software. Sony's platform has remained the same with a few new icons.
If anyone goes, it would be Sony. Either that or they debut a significantly different next-gen experience a la Nintendo. I don't think they have the constitution to outspend Microsoft in a console horse race. Even if they did, their business units don't work well enough together to make things consistent for the consumer. How do their tablets, phones and PS3 tie together? They don't.
Their finances are already under pressure. They might not exit the business, but they can't lose huge money on their consoles anymore.
If anyone goes, it would be Sony. Either that or they debut a significantly different next-gen experience a la Nintendo. I don't think they have the constitution to outspend Microsoft in a console horse race. Even if they did, their business units don't work well enough together to make things consistent for the consumer. How do their tablets, phones and PS3 tie together? They don't.
Their finances are already under pressure. They might not exit the business, but they can't lose huge money on their consoles anymore.
But Microsoft wouldn't 'bow out' of Xbox. Mattrick would invite Ballmer on stage, he'd come jumping on throwing PS3's and Wii's to the audience claiming they're dead while looking at Xbox saying that Xbox is the only cool thing and about to evolve. Circus du Soleil would start doing some kind of Voodoo dance, the Xbox would dissapear in smoke a screen with Windows 8 would come out and he'd start screaming that Xbox is now available anywhere on every Windows 8 device and is the best thing ever next to metro. It would certainly shake LA but they wouldn't 'bow out' in a Sega way.
They worked on all 3 actually : D
This is basically my words, but more eloquently put
Fredrik
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If anyone is going to back down it's Microsoft. They're the one with few first party devs left and the one who could transform everything to Windows if they wanted to. They've already done it with the controller, Xbox Live and soon with Kinect and Metro-dashboard too and most of their own games comes to the PC anyway so. It's all set and it's all moving along just fine according to plan if you think about it that way.
I hope I'm wrong though...
I hope I'm wrong though...
What if the streaming service worked alongside the retail model.Similar to the online pass that comes with most retail purchases now. That would enable a slow transition over to streaming for those that can do it.
I suppose it all comes down to who has the logistics to enable it and want it. If the statement is true then it probably means we will see a roadmap for the future and not a "we are exiting the console business" statement.
I suppose it all comes down to who has the logistics to enable it and want it. If the statement is true then it probably means we will see a roadmap for the future and not a "we are exiting the console business" statement.
The TV division hasn't been profitable in EIGHT years...Sony is currently an insurance company that sells loss leading electronics.
Cosmo Clock 21
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I guess they're finally cancelling the Phantom.
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