petethepanda
Member
Definitely looks better than Ep1 but it still looks... off.
And I really wish they'd pull the camera back a bit.
And I really wish they'd pull the camera back a bit.
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Sonic 4 Episode 2 gameplay trailer
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Green Mamba
Member
The first Sonic Advance I feel is the closest any modern Sonic has come to the Genesis era greatness. Really underrated I think.
Dimps has never been particularly good at level design. Even Sonic Advance, the only game where they sorta got the physics right, was a terrible game partly because of how terrible the level design was. That game was so boring. And the level design got less and less interesting going forward. When Sonic 4 came along they went "oh, people want levels with unique features!" and then flooded levels with so many gimmicks that they ruined the levels.
Anticitizen One
Banned
I think it looks great
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Eh, besides BOOSTERS EVERYWHERE that looked a lot more original and fun than I remember Episode 1 being. Still cautiously excited until we can get a clearer gameplay video and a taste of some of the music
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or if someone leaks the entire game again
Nocturnowl
Member
Well on the upside i'm sure it will be better than episode 1
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Please let the music be good.
It ... looks like a Sonic console game developed by Dimps, alright. Still skeptical here, despite the BG art looking better than the last game's. Level design looks better, but not by much.
I'm not very impressed, tbh.
Also, regarding the homing attack
Well, that's clearly what they wanted to show off (springs and booster gameplay).
It ... looks like a Sonic console game developed by Dimps, alright. Still skeptical here, despite the BG art looking better than the last game's. Level design looks better, but not by much.
I'm not very impressed, tbh.
Someone has yet to finish Sonic Generations, I guess.
Also, regarding the homing attack
Classic Sonic learns it at the end of Generations. Better yet, he learns it during the halfway point of Sonic Generations 3DS and then learns Boost during the ending of that version (also developed by Dimps).
Did Sonic 2006 break you yet?Anth0ny said:
chickdigger802
Banned
Looks great... if the other good sonic game didn't come out last year.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I wonder if they'll make the homing attack more like how it worked for Classic Sonic in this game; still overpowered but at least when you abuse it or use it with nothing else around it instantly slows you down to a halt. Also helped Generations' levels were good enough where while time-running them there were only a few situations where the homing attack would've cut off a few seconds; more often than not it was just quicker to learn to time your jumps like in the old games.
Professor Beef
Banned
Solid SOAP
Member
Things I liked:
*The level art and graphics overall look fantastic. Episode I was boring, unoriginal, and just plain bad. The animations including Sonic's running animation are a definite step up from his awkward and weird set of animations from Episode I, overall the art in this game looks genuinely fantastic, truly a successor to the original games.
*The zones looks really diverse and with a lot of variety to the level design and aesthetics. The trailer showcased 2 levels, but it could have easily been showcasing 3 or even 4. Despite the low level count, the acts seem to differ things up by changing the environment, time of day, and the geometry all together. I'm excited to see how levels mold into one another.
*Level design looks a bit better than Episode I from what I saw, if not by much. Stuff like going into the background of the level ala Donkey Kong Country Returns, legitimate platforming, and the underwater sections all look fun and intuitive.
*Sonic & Tails' co-op abilities look to genuinely add to the gameplay, such as having Tails help you swim faster and fly.
*Some problems SEEM to be fixed, such as uncurling and such. It's possible that the physics and other things have been changed for the better as well, but there's no real way to see.
Things I don't like:
*Health bar enemies. Why? In a game about speed and keeping your momentum we don't need gigantic nears that take 3 hits to kill, no reason.
*Level design doesn't look THAT much different. There are parts that seem better and exciting and fun, but then there are parts that are clearly Sonic being propelled through the level for 5+ seconds. No fun, classic Sonic rarely ever had speed boosters and springs telling him where to go.
*Info TVs are obtrusive and take away player involvement and figuring out exactly what to do on their own.
*Only 4 zones.
*The level art and graphics overall look fantastic. Episode I was boring, unoriginal, and just plain bad. The animations including Sonic's running animation are a definite step up from his awkward and weird set of animations from Episode I, overall the art in this game looks genuinely fantastic, truly a successor to the original games.
*The zones looks really diverse and with a lot of variety to the level design and aesthetics. The trailer showcased 2 levels, but it could have easily been showcasing 3 or even 4. Despite the low level count, the acts seem to differ things up by changing the environment, time of day, and the geometry all together. I'm excited to see how levels mold into one another.
*Level design looks a bit better than Episode I from what I saw, if not by much. Stuff like going into the background of the level ala Donkey Kong Country Returns, legitimate platforming, and the underwater sections all look fun and intuitive.
*Sonic & Tails' co-op abilities look to genuinely add to the gameplay, such as having Tails help you swim faster and fly.
*Some problems SEEM to be fixed, such as uncurling and such. It's possible that the physics and other things have been changed for the better as well, but there's no real way to see.
Things I don't like:
*Health bar enemies. Why? In a game about speed and keeping your momentum we don't need gigantic nears that take 3 hits to kill, no reason.
*Level design doesn't look THAT much different. There are parts that seem better and exciting and fun, but then there are parts that are clearly Sonic being propelled through the level for 5+ seconds. No fun, classic Sonic rarely ever had speed boosters and springs telling him where to go.
*Info TVs are obtrusive and take away player involvement and figuring out exactly what to do on their own.
*Only 4 zones.
Mama Robotnik
Member
Shame, it looked not-undisgusting in the stills.
SPRING SPRING SPRING BOOST BOOST SPRING SPRING BOOST HOMING ATTACK ON PATH OF ENEMIES SPRING BOOST SPRING BOOST
Welcome back, Dimps.
SPRING SPRING SPRING BOOST BOOST SPRING SPRING BOOST HOMING ATTACK ON PATH OF ENEMIES SPRING BOOST SPRING BOOST
Welcome back, Dimps.
Diablohead
Member
why the fuck can sonic run through walls face first still
Sonic running down the slope near the start did not make him faster *RAGE*
not sure if want.
Sonic running down the slope near the start did not make him faster *RAGE*
not sure if want.
Woah now, come on. They added true innovation to the Dimps formula
Now you can mash the homing button at health bar enemies!!
It still looks like it plays more like episode 1 then classic Sonic. It's the little things that most people most likely won't even notice. The way the jumps look slow/floaty, Sonic's speed seems to top out too soon again (running down the hill section), super space astro jump off of an incline, and just the way Sonic seems to react to loops and hills.
It's nice uncurling and stops when the d-pad is released Sonic is gone because they were by far my biggest issues though. This time I'll try the demo before buying to decide if those changes are enough. Every time I played episode 1 I just got annoyed because of how shitty Sonic handled.
It's nice uncurling and stops when the d-pad is released Sonic is gone because they were by far my biggest issues though. This time I'll try the demo before buying to decide if those changes are enough. Every time I played episode 1 I just got annoyed because of how shitty Sonic handled.
I'll make a LTTP thread about it in 5 years, then. There is no way I'm going back to the Sonic 4 engine after experiencing Generations.
As opposed to going from Colors to Sonic 06, which is an improvement.
Professor Beef
Banned
How can someone with whom I share such great taste in games always make me sad? That Majora's Mask thread, man...shit was a work of art.
Anth0ny...you used to be cool.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Anyone who prefers '06 over Colors has ZERO taste in games.
EricDiesel
Member
Going from Sonic 2006 to nearly any game ever would be an improvement. And yes, I own Sonic 2006. Game's glitchy as hell and not remotely fun. There might be something wrong with you.
I think it looks very fun, never got all the hate against Sonic 4.
Though I think they sorta failed with the whole "episodic" format. Too much time has passed and this looks like a new Sonic game compared to episode 1.
In order to retain the feeling that the episodes are actually part of a whole they should've remade episode 1 with the new engine and sold them together or something I think.
I was afraid this was going to happen when they announced it to be episodic.
Though I think they sorta failed with the whole "episodic" format. Too much time has passed and this looks like a new Sonic game compared to episode 1.
In order to retain the feeling that the episodes are actually part of a whole they should've remade episode 1 with the new engine and sold them together or something I think.
I was afraid this was going to happen when they announced it to be episodic.
What the hell, man.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Weren't you cursing Sonic 2006 into oblivion a few days ago since the billiards were giving you a stupid time?
To Far Away Times
Member
Spring and booster lollercoaster gameplay hasn't changed from episode 1. I don't have much hope for the physics either.
The failed with the episodic format by doing it in the first place. It has been 16 years between Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Sonic 4: Episode 1's release. If they had just taken their time and developed a full game that's a true sequel to S3&K then it would've been fine.
Silver's gameplay drove me to insanity. I needed to ease my nerves, so I played Dark Souls, and have been playing it since.
I still enjoyed Sonic and Shadow's story more than Colors. But I think I'm going to do a lets play, or at least make a thread, about giving Sonic Colors a second chance. In a post Generations, post Sonic 06 world.
edit: billychu understands me
Professor Beef
Banned
Just like Fire Emblem, right?
No. Fire Emblem 7: Rekka no Ken descended from heaven to grace us undeserving mortals
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I like Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu because the narrative kicks ass.
You'll have to start the RTTP sometime after you finish 2006 completely, including Last Story!
Your dislike of Final Fantasy V makes me sad too. :/
The billiards level took a lot out of me too. It was so bad, and I can't believe that thing got into the game.
You'll have to start the RTTP sometime after you finish 2006 completely, including Last Story!
DICKS AHOY
Banned
If you look at the part where he's running down that big hill in the Aquatic Ruins-like Zone, the camera's pulled out quite a bit. I think the camera in this game may be more dynamic like it was in Generations.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Welp, back to S3&K
SkylineRKR
Member
It looks better than Episode 1, but Sonic CD HD this is not.
Sonic 06 looks better than Episode 1.
Professor Beef
Banned
I don't know what that is, so I'm going to assume you made it up.
Buy me a Fire Emblem game so I can finally see what the hubbub is about.
Says the guy who called Mario 3D Land a shitty game too.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Why do I agree with this?
I'd recommend my favourite: Fire Emblem 4: Seisen no Keifu (Genealogy of the Holy War) for the SNES. The plot is fantastic, and the villain's one of my favourite game villains ever.Professor Beef said:
Rekka no Ken isn't bad (and I prefer it over the Sacred Stones), but I really love Seisen no Keifu. Thracia 776 (FE5) is really great too.
Upsidedown Fuji
Member
I liked what I saw in the trailer. I think it will be better than episode 1 but that bar was set pretty low already.
I look forward to seeing some actual playthroughs soon.
I look forward to seeing some actual playthroughs soon.