Yeah, cause there's a huge used game market on pc, right?
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Kotaku Rumor: PlayStation 4 codenamed 'Orbis', 2013, AMD CPU, SI GPU, Anti-Used Games
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Yeah, cause there's a huge used game market on pc, right?
pieatorium
Member
You could maybe bring your game and then log into your PSN account over there.
I actually hope for the platform to tank if there's an anti-used scheme.
lol exactly.
Anyone who says they'll stick to PC gaming cause of anti sharing is funny. PC gaming is the most anti sharing market ever.
Publishers want to turn the console market into a PC market.
Current consoles have longer lifespans than consoles of yore.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Nah, I'll buy a Wii U. There is no way in hell that Nintendo would be crazy enough to pull this shit.
These ideas are silly, but you do realize that the PC has already had this anti-sharing policy in effecty for years now, right? You cannot purchase used PC games and many games ARE tied to an account. How do you think Steam works?
I hate this idea for consoles but it pretty much is just a move which matches the functionality of the PC.
You can also buy games for a fraction of a fraction of the price of console games.
I see big court battles looming if they really go ahead with this anti-used games model.
GameStop, Gamefly, and the rest of the rental market are too big to take this laying down.
I've always felt the industry rides the legal line on price fixing anyway. It would be nice to see someone with the time and money take some of the issues to court.
GameStop, Gamefly, and the rest of the rental market are too big to take this laying down.
I've always felt the industry rides the legal line on price fixing anyway. It would be nice to see someone with the time and money take some of the issues to court.
Yeah, the codenames are spot on. Isn't that before the next Xbox's codename Durango leaked out, too?
AgentP
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LOL. People just want to hate on Sony, they are not even thinking about the ideas on their own.
Those aren't mutually exclusive, not that I see this as a "fucking". PC gaming is fine despite the same "fucking" there.
Perhaps no secondary market and cheaper games are related?
RedNumberFive
Banned
Is today opposite day or something?
Sigh. For the last time, savings on the PC are passed on to the consumers through countless sales and promotional deals, through Steam and various other outlets. You wouldn't be seeing any of that on consoles without a used game market because there's no reason for them to do it absent of hugely popular and convenient digital distribution services.
Not really. Most new prices are the same or similar between the different platforms and console games regularly go on sale just as they do on Steam.
I just don't trust publishers to give the same kind of deals on consoles as they do on Steam. Plus, if this gen is anything to go by, game prices at retail drop within the first six weeks. Their online counterparts do not. Also, B2G1 free sales and other promotions will be a thing of the past. I don't think I'm ready to let that go just yet.
I think their (Publishers) greed will get in the way, and us gamer's will have to pay for it.
gimmick, like what???
megashock5
Member
I'm trying to wrap my head around it. 1080p still isn't even standard in games or broadcast television, but we're going to jump to 4 times that?
test_account
XP-39C²
I cant really see that they go the PC game route with requiring online activation for physical games. Maybe for some games, but not as a standard.
Keep pushing it Sony, take these morons for all they're worth.
You're missing the point. On PC you still get the crippled product but you're paying $5 for it instead of $40.
You're missing the point. On PC you still get the crippled product but you're paying $5 for it instead of $40.
I think he may have meant how long the current consoles last physically, like breaking down and whatnot?
I'm sure it would be no different than 1080p support in PS3 titles. You might see a handful of 4K games and perhaps film support, but most games would likely stick to 1080p (or lower, perhaps).
TheGuardian
Member
Well, this is the crazy in me talking, but what if this whole thing is because Sony is working with Steam on the new console, integrating Steamworks with PSN.
You mean people love speculating on rumors? Oh internet, you never cease to amaze!
I misinterpreted the post I quoted. I now realize he meant consoles have shorter lifespans before they break down. I thought he meant before a new console is introduced.
test_account
XP-39C²
This system has been used on PC for years.
I don't want any of this to be the case, honestly, but I'd rather have Steamworks on the back end than something Sony might come up with. Doesn't seem possible, though.
Not the same type of discount you see on the PC, but there are still plenty of sales which see recent games drop below the $20 mark. Of course, in those cases, you receive a physical disc which holds more value to me than something digital. I actually buy most of my new PC titles in boxes anyways and only resort to Steam for its sales which are indeed very good.
I'm not sure those types of sales across all platforms would be healthy for the industry, though.
My SNES still works. My PS2 doesn't read discs anymore.
yankeehater
Member
No BC would be a deal breaker for me, I have a wall of PS3 game and I still play a bunch of them, and I have so much downloaded stuff. I also buy used/rent and I would not be willing to give that up. I love my PS3 and I would really miss out on a lot of PS4 games but no way could I buy a console that is so anti-consumer.
H_Prestige
Banned
Console games get huge discounts all the time. Usually soon after launch too.
And as if $5 is the typical price of a new release on Steam.
Same way they secure the Vita? That thing is basically a phone.
Hari Seldon
Member
On the other hand, everyone will know how to develop for it.
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"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
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"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."
"They misunderestimated me."
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
McHuj
Member
because obviously they're just gonna get an off the shelf part from newegg instead of getting a customized cpu based on x86 ISA.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Gotcha! I'll retract my snark accordingly.
TheGuardian
Member
The Vita also uses common components, and it hasn't been hacked yet.
So publishers want to kill off Gamestop, I guess. I'm not buying a console this coming generation. I know you can't buy games used on PC, either, but at least I can play all of them as long as Windows is around. I think there's going to be a huge divide soon thanks to Kickstarter and publishers getting continually more restrictive with their mediocre products.
He's clearly talking about the amount of time a console remains viable on the market, not how long an individual piece of hardware might last.
For people such as myself who typically buy new this is also an important point. New games tend to go on sale first on consoles while the Steam prices remain high for months until a sale pops up.