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CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA

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Gonna go to McDonald's this weekend to see if I can do some mods to their Southern Chicken sandwich to make it a good Chick Fil-A replacement. Honestly I think all it might need is some mayo...

The only mod I've tried is the one where you put the chicken sandwich in the middle of a double cheeseburger (serious). It;s called the McGangBang.
 

Adam Prime

hates soccer, is Mexican
Apple & Nike: exploiting labors in third world countries = ALRIGHT COOL.

CFA: we don't support gay marriage = HATE FILLED ASSHOLES!!! BOYCOTT!!!


lol @ America
 

Kosmo

Banned
And did he go on to contribute millions of dollars to anti-gay causes?

You really need to define "anti-gay." Most of those groups just fall into kind of kooky Christian fundamentalist organizations what support a "traditional" definition of marriage. If there are any that are promoting "gay therapy" or trying to turn people straight, sure I would call that anti-gay. Regardless, the shitstorm blew up before their donations were even looked into.

You can say there is "nuance" between the two statements, but they are saying the same thing - stating that marriage is defined as that between a man and a woman.

Personally, I'm both for gay marriage and eating good chicken sandwiches.


Kosmo has entered the thread to blast Obama?

Why did it take so long?

I am not blasting Obama at all, I'm asking those who are outraged at this why they were not outraged at Obama. Regardless of if he was giving money to "anti-gay" organizations or not, his stance was essentially the same.
 
Apple & Nike: exploiting labors in third world countries = ALRIGHT COOL.

CFA: we don't support gay marriage = HATE FILLED ASSHOLES!!! BOYCOTT!!!


lol @ America

Tell me, how deep is that hole you're digging? It must be pretty deep already, to have missed the massive outcries against Apple and Nike for shoddy labor practices.
 

Sotha Sil

Member
You really need to define "anti-gay." Most of those groups just fall into kind of kooky Christian fundamentalist organizations what support a "traditional" definition of marriage. If there are any that are promoting "gay therapy" or trying to turn people straight, sure I would call that anti-gay. Regardless, the shitstorm blew up before their donations were even looked into.

You can say there is "nuance" between the two statements, but they are saying the same thing - stating that marriage is defined as that between a man and a woman.

Personally, I'm both for gay marriage and eating good chicken sandwiches.


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How would you define this?
 

Adam Prime

hates soccer, is Mexican
This thread made me look up the biblical definition of marriage, and King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. I don't know how he got anything done.

King Solomon is not the biblical definition of marriage.... he's just a guy in the Bible. Nobody says "DO WHAT THIS GUYS DOES!"

Bible typically looks at the first marriage as Adam and Eve, it's not about a "ceremony" and exchanging of vows. But a commitment between Man, Woman, and God. Seeing how they are seen as the "first" man and woman, they're typically seen as the very first marriage... and their offsprings are said to have taken "wives". Meaning they were married as well.

I don't think there's a particular passage in the Bible that defines marriage as being this ceremony where you light candles, exchange rings, etc. I could be wrong, but I don't know if there's a single wedding ceremony outlined in the Bible.
 

MajorPain

Member
To take away Dan Cathy's first amendment rights is to take away your own. Don't you see that? Even the ACLU is on Chick-fil-a's side which is kind of odd.
 

Adam Prime

hates soccer, is Mexican
Tell me, how deep is that hole you're digging? It must be pretty deep already, to have missed the massive outcries against Apple and Nike for shoddy labor practices.

Hmm I must've missed that huge CNN report about how people are just super fucking pissed. In America, gay marriage is a bigger issue than third world countries being abused by our major coporations.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
You really need to define "anti-gay." Most of those groups just fall into kind of kooky Christian fundamentalist organizations what support a "traditional" definition of marriage. If there are any that are promoting "gay therapy" or trying to turn people straight, sure I would call that anti-gay. Regardless, the shitstorm blew up before their donations were even looked into.

You can say there is "nuance" between the two statements, but they are saying the same thing - stating that marriage is defined as that between a man and a woman.
So basically you'd rather argue semantics than try and realize the obvious point I was making?
 

JeTmAn81

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King Solomon is not the biblical definition of marriage.... he's just a guy in the Bible. Nobody says "DO WHAT THIS GUYS DOES!"

Bible typically looks at the first marriage as Adam and Eve, it's not about a "ceremony" and exchanging of vows. But a commitment between Man, Woman, and God. Seeing how they are seen as the "first" man and woman, they're typically seen as the very first marriage... and their offsprings are said to have taken "wives". Meaning they were married as well.

I don't think there's a particular passage in the Bible that defines marriage as being this ceremony where you light candles, exchange rings, etc. I could be wrong, but I don't know if there's a single wedding ceremony outlined in the Bible.

I'd like to point out that just because someone did something in the Bible does not mean that person was doing what God wanted them to do. King David knocked up a married woman and had her husband murdered to claim her for himself. He also had multiple wives, as did his son Solomon in the example above. But none of this stuff was what they were supposed to be doing according to the narrative of the book.
 
Hmm I must've missed that huge CNN report about how people are just super fucking pissed. In America, gay marriage is a bigger issue than third world countries being abused by our major coporations.

You must not be paying much attention. People boycotted nike, apple had a fire lit under their ass.

Aside from this lame tangent, how do you feel about gay rights?
 
Hmm I must've missed that huge CNN report about how people are just super fucking pissed. In America, gay marriage is a bigger issue than third world countries being abused by our major coporations.

How much do those workers care about gay marriage in the US?

:p

So how do you defend Rahm Emmanuel on his stance?

I'm sorry. I don't answer questions that are irrelevant. Feel free to reread my posts.
 

Kosmo

Banned
So basically you'd rather argue semantics than try and realize the obvious point I was making?

Ok, so you you had no problem with the original statement from the COO and your only opposition that they donate to "anti-gay" groups? I want to make sure we are on the same page.

If that's the case, my bad. If you had a problem with the original statement, then please proceed with why you didn't have problem with Obama's stance, or at least weren't motivated to express outrage.
 
So isn't that something we should be trying to correct? Supporting companies that donate to lobbyists and hate groups that want to limit gay people their equal rights doesn't sit well with me.

Look, they donated over a million dollars to a group that has this on their homepage.

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Bigoted nutjobs.

Hahaha at that last one.

"There is no evidence that anyone has ever discriminated against homosexuals, but we still want to have the right to discriminate against them because of our religion."

Bunch of fucking assholes.
 
Are you talking about Obama modifying his views or all of the "outraged" people modifying what their response is to someone who states they think marriage is between a man and a woman? That their is more outrage about a guy that makes chicken sandwiches having that view than the guy sitting in the White house is hilarious to watch.

I'm all for gay marriage, FYI.

Scummy post.

Many of us were rightfully outraged about Obama and very, very vocal about it. I was one of those people and I'm grateful that he's publicly changed positions.

Apple & Nike: exploiting labors in third world countries = ALRIGHT COOL.

CFA: we don't support gay marriage = HATE FILLED ASSHOLES!!! BOYCOTT!!!


lol @ America

The notion that people can only be engaged with one issue at a time and some people's insistence on drawing nonsense comparisons is utterly bizarre.
 

Kosmo

Banned
Infinite clowns, but only one clown car.

At least you have the analogy right. I'm probably the only GAFer with enough balls to correct an analogy blasting me, LOL

And not a shit was given....

Mercury Fred said:
Scummy post.

Many of us were rightfully outraged about Obama and very, very vocal about it. I was one of those people and I'm grateful that he's publicly changed positions.

I guess I missed that thread. And it's not that I think Obama was really against gay marriage other than for selfish, political reasons, which made it all the more scummy.
 

Gaborn

Member
To take away Dan Cathy's first amendment rights is to take away your own. Don't you see that? Even the ACLU is on Chick-fil-a's side which is kind of odd.

His rights won't be violated. First, they're not going to be allowed to do what Menino's letter suggested, even he's backed off from that since then. Second, holding boycotts and such are a CITIZEN'S right. And that is as it should be.
 
I guess I missed that thread. And it's not that I think Obama was really against gay marriage other than for selfish, political reasons, which made it all the more scummy.

Are you f'ing kidding me? That thread? It was in many, many threads over the course of years here. I was very outspoken about being critical of Obama's stance as were many others. But this isn't about him.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
Ok, so you you had no problem with the original statement from the COO and your only opposition that they donate to "anti-gay" groups? I want to make sure we are on the same page.

If that's the case, my bad. If you had a problem with the original statement, then please proceed with why you didn't have problem with Obama's stance, or at least weren't motivated to express outrage.
Generally, I still have a problem with somebody saying they dont support same sex marriages, but its not something to get outraged over on its own.

But really, considering Obama has recently admitted to supporting same sex marriages, it seems to me its quite clear that he either felt like this earlier and didn't say it cuz of political pressures or was at the least somewhat sitting on the fence with the issue. He's obviously gotta be a lot more careful about what he says he supports than a guy who owns a chicken sandwich company. That guy who owns the chicken sandwich company though, is obviously much farther down on the scale with his belief. The fact that he contributes millions of dollars to scumbag institutions like the one we've been showing you says that yea, I dont think the two situations are quite comparable.
 

Kosmo

Banned
Are you f'ing kidding me? That thread? It was in many, many threads over the course of years here. I was very outspoken about being critical of Obama's stance as were many others. But this isn't about him.

Sorry, you're not on my radar! Honestly, if you have a link to a good thread, I'd love to browse through.
 
Sorry, you're not on my radar! Honestly, if you have a link to a good thread, I'd love to browse through.

It wasn't just me, it was a lot of gay-GAF as well as others. Do some searches, you'll find pages and pages of people being critical of Obama's former stance on marriage equality.
 
Obama's somewhat back and forth on gay marriage (in his very early days, there's evidence of him proclaiming support for gay marriage) seemed so oviously political.

Like literally.... "Polls right now say 48% support, so I think you should have a totally weak fence-sitting stance, and then maybe once polls hit 50% you can announce support" type crap.

Obnoxious, but he made no legislative decisions regarding his stance, and other than that did fight for repeal of DODT (although I know there are troubles there too, I'm overall in support of what Obama did), etc.
 
His rights won't be violated. First, they're not going to be allowed to do what Menino's letter suggested, even he's backed off from that since then. Second, holding boycotts and such are a CITIZEN'S right. And that is as it should be.

It must suck to be the franchise owners in these cases. If these new restaurants fail because of the storm of bad publicity and boycotts, they have a lot more to lose than Chick-fil-A corporate does. I imagine they wish the CEO had kept his idiot mouth shut.
 

Gaborn

Member
It must suck to be the franchise owners in these cases. If these new restaurants fail because of the storm of bad publicity and boycotts, they have a lot more to lose than Chick-fil-A corporate does. I imagine they wish the CEO had kept his idiot mouth shut.

Definitely, especially since it's possible the store owners don't all necessarily agree with the CEO.
 
It must suck to be the franchise owners in these cases. If these new restaurants fail because of the storm of bad publicity and boycotts, they have a lot more to lose than Chick-fil-A corporate does. I imagine they wish the CEO had kept his idiot mouth shut.

A fool and his money are soon parted.
 

Kosmo

Banned
Where would the gay community be without Kosmo to advocate for them in a manner that is in no way just a pretext for knee-jerk partisan hackery!

Kosmo, staunch ally of gays everywhere.

Staunch supporter of not giving a shit about what people do in their personal lives.
 

Trey

Member
How did you folks let Kosmo warp this thread into one about the integrity of Obama's gay marriage stance?

It was better when you were lumping all of CFA's customers who were aware of the company's stance in with radical, homophobic bigots.
 

CHEEZMO™

Obsidian fan
The people who wrote that are horrible. The people who support that are horrible. And if you try to defend that in this thread then you are being horrible too.

So stop!

Ugh. You're such a bigot. Stop being so intolerant of these people. Attacking their religious freedom.

Makes me sick. Modz ban this user plz.
 

Kosmo

Banned
How did you folks let Kosmo warp this thread into one about the integrity of Obama's gay marriage stance?

It was better when you were lumping all of CFA's customers who were aware of the company's stance in with radical, homophobic bigots.

I was not making an indictment on Obama's stance in any way. The indictment was on those who had no problem with Obama's stance but are now all "DERP Well, I don't eat your fried chicken sandwich anymore!"
 
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