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PlayStation Plus Thread: Plus What? PLUS EVERYTHING!

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Duffyside

Banned
Holy shit what a joke. Who the fuck are you to tell me I can't complain about content I'm paying for.

At least the third time I've seen such a dumb comment. Try some basic comprehension.

I'm not telling you you can't complain. I'm saying you're ridiculous for doing so and mocking you for it.

Who are youuuu to tell meeee that I can't complain about your complaining?
 

T.M. MacReady

NO ONE DENIES MEMBER
This thread has divulged from discussion/hype for content, to constant complaining that we're not getting enough, to now complaining about the constant complaining, and backlash against the people complaining about the constant complaining.

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....anyway, is Bloodrayne any good? Any new Full Game Trials this week?
 

Mileena

Banned
At least the third time I've seen such a dumb comment. Try some basic comprehension.

I'm not telling you you can't complain. I'm saying you're ridiculous for doing so and mocking you for it.

Who are youuuu to tell meeee that I can't complain about your complaining?
I guess its appropriate that I mock you for being such an apologist then, you sound ridiculous.
 

KalBalboa

Banned


Semantics is the word you're looking for, but you're not exactly helping by continually patronizing or condescending to everyone complaining.

Point out the good parts and let the rest wallow.


....anyway, is Bloodrayne any good? Any new Full Game Trials this week?

Bloodrayne seems like it's all over the place, critic-wise. IGN gave it a 9, Joystiq a 4.5/5, and 1up a B+, but I'm also seeing some 5/10s, Ds, etc.

Here's a video review to get a better impression.

+5 for the Terry Crews avatar.
 

Balotelli

Banned
I guess its appropriate that I mock you for being such an apologist then, you sound ridiculous.

Why are you so mean to everyone have you ever stopped and considered the effect your hatred and words have on people and their FEELINGS? Some people respect what Sony has done here and for you to come in and insult them and their purchases is just quite rude and I don't know what to make of it.
 

Mileena

Banned
Why are you so mean to everyone have you ever stopped and considered the effect your hatred and words have on people and their FEELINGS? Some people respect what Sony has done here and for you to come in and insult them and their purchases is just quite rude and I don't know what to make of it.
Bravo.
 

Grecco

Member
Then go buy the SCEE Plus if you're so confident it is permanently superior.

"Johnny got a red bike! I want a red bike too! Waaaah!"


A more apt comparison would be Johny got a Red car, and i got a red bicycle i want a red car too. Its no secret to anybody that Europe has gotten a superior amount of content so far. Its only natural for american ps plus users to be disapointed. Sorry that we arent proclaiming Sonys greatness because we got Outland for free. Im sorry we hurt Sonys feelings.
 

KalBalboa

Banned
A more apt comparison would be Johny got a Red car, and i got a red bicycle i want a red car too. Its no secret to anybody that Europe has gotten a superior amount of content so far. Its only natural for american ps plus users to be disapointed. Sorry that we arent proclaiming Sonys greatness because we got Outland for free. Im sorry we hurt Sonys feelings.

It's all relative. I paid $4 this month and got plenty to keep me happy. The discounts are the bread and butter for me lately, but Walking Dead and Outland back to back was great. I've also barely had any time for LBP2.
 
At least the third time I've seen such a dumb comment. Try some basic comprehension.

I'm not telling you you can't complain. I'm saying you're ridiculous for doing so and mocking you for it.

Who are youuuu to tell meeee that I can't complain about your complaining?

So what you are saying is that you aren't contributing anything to the thread and just complaining about people complaining?
 

Duffyside

Banned
you're not exactly helping by continually patronizing or condescending to everyone complaining.

Not helping what? I'm not here on a mission, despite what other people are saying. I always pop into this thread to get the latest news on a service I enjoy, and in reading other people's posts I express my opinion.

The reason my posts in here are often patronizing is because so many of the posts in here deserve such a response. There have been a few people who have remarked negatively in reasonable ways, such as saying "y'know, I buy a ton of games and it just turns out that PS+ hardly ever gives me something I don't already have." I don't respond to that because it's a totally mild post and I'm too busy being distracted by the craziness surrounding it.

A more apt comparison would be Johny got a Red car, and i got a red bicycle i want a red car too. Its no secret to anybody that Europe has gotten a superior amount of content so far. Its only natural for american ps plus users to be disapointed. Sorry that we arent proclaiming Sonys greatness because we got Outland for free. Im sorry we hurt Sonys feelings.

Europe has gotten a superior amount of content for like two or three months. Before then the shoe was on the other foot.

But none of that matters. It all comes down to what you are spending and what you are getting. To illustrate the absurd; if you and a European are spending $1 a year for your near-dream house, but the European's house has a jacuzzi and yours doesn't, is that unfair? Are you going to cancel the service?

You are spending $4.17. You are getting more than $40 in potential "savings", plus the constants. If you want to "show Sony" by not spending $4 a month, be my guest. I think you're NUTS.
 

Andvary

Member
Play Walking Dead yet?





Which sell for $5 apiece on PSN/XBLA, making them worth $10.

So what? They have given away Sam and Max and BTTF COMPLETE seasons before, that is why we getting 2/5 of the season is not good. The SCEA PS+ service is getting worse while SCEE plus is getting better, of course we're going to complain.
 

Wario64

works for Gamestop (lol)
My issue is that they took out a full retail game and replaced it with a PSN release, when most people expected a retail game to be replaced with a retail game. Of course people we'll be "saving" money each month regardless. If they gave us thousands of free avatars per month instead, we'd be saving over a hundred bucks. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy it.
 
Why as a plus member we can't queue up announced demos for auto downloading. I mean once you select the upcoming demo, and when it's available it automatically downloads.
 

alexein

Member
I have to say even though im in Europe and got good games, Us have the right to complain, they so they have to right but they have to complain also on psblog so that SCEA see that they should give retail game more frequently.
I mean its okay to complain , in europe we complained too when we never got all the rpg that america got.
But even if had gotten america line up i would be pretty for the ps plus because thats a lot of games that i never bought. But its less interesting when you buy on psn.

I already have darksiders and borderlands goty, so i got some of the games from instant game collection but its a good deal, and i think they give us games but expect sales from dlc, if its really Borderlands that will be offered with just cause 2 (which is i hope is given free since i stopped myself from buying from some time) they will offer a sale on dlc, like 25% or 50% on each , so they get back their cash.

My suscription ends in september and i will be renewing it for sure.
 

excaliburps

Press - MP1st.com
Just remembered how terrible Bloodrayne controlled from the demo. Sony's on a roll with these low-tier freebies.

Well, to be fair, The Walking Dead was anything but "low-tier."

I think it's alright for US PSN+ to be annoyed. It's like ordering ice cream but you know the other EU Dairy Queen gives complimentary blowjobs with each order but yours doesn't...they can but they won't for some odd reason.

From what I'm reading across various channels, if Sony US doesn't step it up in September, they will lose a lot more PS+ subscribers than they're expecting. No way people will contend with handjobs while the other side of the pond gets the full monty.

Yeah, I'm feeling randy so take my metaphors and like 'em!

I do admit, I am kinda underwhelmed with the offerings this month. I might not even need to download the games they're offering. I mean, except for Outland, what's there to download? Dust 514 beta? Hopefully, September brings in more goodies...Haro seems to be hinting that they'll be making it up to US PS+ in the future. I'm guessing all that bitching hasn't escaped him, eh?
 

Mileena

Banned
My issue is that they took out a full retail game and replaced it with a PSN release, when most people expected a retail game to be replaced with a retail game. Of course people we'll be "saving" money each month regardless. If they gave us thousands of free avatars per month instead, we'd be saving over a hundred bucks. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy it.
Well said. Beautiful post Wario.
 
That's it for the month for NA then?

Guess I'll spend some time trying these PSN games for kicks before my subscription runs out in less than a month (not gonna renew).

yea I'm out too, glad we got that free extension. If you think about it only SCEE was hyping up this PS+ so it makes since they've got the better titles. But eh, glad I didn't spend money on this, if in the future they have some better titles I might bite.


Oh and don't forget if you bought PS+ off the store your automatically signed up for auto renewal, so go to your account management and cancel.
 

LkPr

Member
Dust 514 ‏@Dust514Update
Special Dust 514 closed beta event announced for PlayStation Plus members http://sns.mx/bBWXy0


CCP Games announced a special closed beta event for Dust 514, their upcoming free-to-play massively multiplayer first-person shooter. The Dust 514 beta event will take place from August 21 to September 4 and is available exclusively to Sony PlayStation Plus Subscribers and those who have already purchased the Mercenary Pack or have All-Access Passes.
 

Duffyside

Banned
My issue is that they took out a full retail game and replaced it with a PSN release, when most people expected a retail game to be replaced with a retail game. Of course people we'll be "saving" money each month regardless. If they gave us thousands of free avatars per month instead, we'd be saving over a hundred bucks. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy it.

Why the attitude that retail games are automatically better than PSN games though? That doesn't seem like you. If Saints Row 2 or All4One are replaced by Sound Shapes or Journey or Dyad next month, is that not more than a fair trade to you?
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I really came into this PS plus things with the right state of mind, I didn't expect big retail games in every update. I'm satisfied with the free games I got so far.

PS+ isn't new, so why people are expecting full retail games every month is surprising. The E3 announcement was just a bonus, not the norm. I guess gamers are like my kids, they get spoiled and want more every time you give them something.

Content is going to be lumpy, every month cannot one-up the previous one. If you missed out on stuff from other months, too bad, Plus is cumulative, the longer you are in the more stuff you have access to.
 

ScrubJay

Member
As someone who owns disc versions of Deus Ex:Hr, Dead Space 2, Just Cause 2, and Darksiders I personally am really enjoying the American offerings. I got PS+ to try new games out and it has not disappointed.
 

BioHazard

Member
wow what a bunch of spoiled, entitled brats. I can't believe you are disappointed with two older, mediocre PSN titles, who even wants those AAA retail releases anyway? What's next, complaining about the awesome discounts you get on PREMIUM themes and avatars? sheeesh, fucking pricks
 

KalBalboa

Banned
So what? They have given away Sam and Max and BTTF COMPLETE seasons before, that is why we getting 2/5 of the season is not good. The SCEA PS+ service is getting worse while SCEE plus is getting better, of course we're going to complain.

Walking Dead is a much, much better game than BTTF and Sam and Max, in my opinion. Those games were also not fairly new, unlike Walking Dead which was basically a month old when it hit Plus for free, if I recall correctly. The game is episodic by design and I wasn't going to buy a full $20 season based on reviews alone, so I look at it as $10 saved regardless of whether or not I buy episodes 3 & 4.


If they gave us thousands of free avatars per month instead, we'd be saving over a hundred bucks. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy it.

Only the discounts and freebies they give us are for good games. Sound Shapes is a fantastic game and you got $3 off it, and the recent 50-75% off sales were awesome (Beyond Good an Evil was $5, if I recall correctly) and Shadow of the Colossus was $9! Dyad and Counter Strike are 20% off too, Hot Shots Golf for Vita was 50% along with a bunch of others, so these aren't exactly just free avatars.


wow what a bunch of spoiled, entitled brats. I can't believe you are disappointed with two older, mediocre PSN titles, who even wants those AAA retail releases anyway? What's next, complaining about the awesome discounts you get on PREMIUM themes and avatars? sheeesh, fucking pricks

It's $4/mo. If you want new, AAA games... you'll have to spend some money. Outland is a great game from what I've played, but that's entirely subjective. Walking Dead, Renegade Ops, Pacman, etc... all great games.
 

Duffyside

Banned
wow what a bunch of spoiled, entitled brats. I can't believe you are disappointed with two older, mediocre PSN titles, who even wants those AAA retail releases anyway? What's next, complaining about the awesome discounts you get on PREMIUM themes and avatars? sheeesh, fucking pricks

Ooh! Ooh! I do I do! I want two new AAA retail releases every month, and half-off on all PSN releases, and free DLC of all games, and a unicorn!
 

Wario64

works for Gamestop (lol)
Why the attitude that retail games are automatically better than PSN games though? That doesn't seem like you. If Saints Row 2 or All4One are replaced by Sound Shapes or Journey or Dyad next month, is that not more than a fair trade to you?

Only if they gave out Sound Shapes, Journey, or Dyad for free. We both know that won't happen. But that wouldn't matter to me anyway cause I've already played those games.

I never said retail games are automatically better, but I expect like games to be replaced with the same-like games.



And it's not really $4 a month. I hate it when people break down subscription fees to per month. It's $50 a year. I can't just unsubscribe anytime during the 12 months
 

KalBalboa

Banned
Only if they gave out Sound Shapes, Journey, or Dyad for free. We both know that won't happen. But that wouldn't matter to me anyway cause I've already played those games.

I never said retail games are automatically better, but I expect like games to be replaced with the same-like games.

I think their biggest "mistake" was gambling that a super well-reviewed, new DL game like Walking Dead was comparable to something like inFamous 2, a $30, year-and-change-old, awesome retail game.

I still think it was an awesome freebie*, but that seems to be people's contention.



And it's not really $4 a month. I hate it when people break down subscription fees to per month. It's $50 a year. I can't just unsubscribe anytime during the 12 months

Well, $50/12 months is factually $4 a month, so I'm not sure about splitting hairs there. You could always do a three-month sub or just get the free months that came with Starhawk and a few other games, too.
 

BioHazard

Member
Only if they gave out Sound Shapes, Journey, or Dyad for free. We both know that won't happen. But that wouldn't matter to me anyway cause I've already played those games.

I never said retail games are automatically better, but I expect like games to be replaced with the same-like games.



And it's not really $4 a month. I hate it when people break down subscription fees to per month. It's $50 a year. I can't just unsubscribe anytime during the 12 months

thank you! That's some sales person bullshit right there.

It costs $50

$50 a year

not 4 every month

50

a year

you have to spend it all at once, all $50, not 4, please stop using that as an argument, sony reps ITT
 

KalBalboa

Banned
thank you! That's some sales person bullshit right there.

It costs $50

$50 a year

not 4 every month

50

a year

you have to spend it all at once, all $50, not 4, please stop using that as an argument, sony reps ITT

Ok... fine. It's $50 for an entire YEAR.

Here's year one.

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For $50 this year you got inFamous 2, Just Cause 2, Saints Row 2, Little Big Planet 2, Walking Dead ep. 1 & 2, Lara Croft, Pacman, Outland, and a ton of other freebie games, not to mention the discounts and the fact it's only been two months.
 

Wario64

works for Gamestop (lol)
Well, $50/12 months is factually $4 a month, so I'm not sure about splitting hairs there. You could always do a three-month sub or just get the free months that came with Starhawk and a few other games, too.

Just a pet peeve of mine, same as people saying you save $20 off a purchase because they offer you a $20 gift card. You're still paying the full amount, heh.
 

KalBalboa

Banned
Just a pet peeve of mine, same as people saying you save $20 off a purchase because they offer you a $20 gift card. You're still paying the full amount, heh.

Yes, but it still boils down to the fact it's $4 a month, really. It's not like they charged you $70 and then gave you a $20 gift card- they charged you $4/mo for 12 months, or $50 for a year, right?
 

Duffyside

Banned
Ok... fine. It's $50 for an entire YEAR.

Here's year one.

playstation-plus-one-year-later-a-by-the-numbers-analysis--20110629014550558.jpg


For $50 this year you got inFamous 2, Just Cause 2, Saints Row 2, Little Big Planet 2, Walking Dead ep. 1 & 2, Lara Croft, Pacman, Outland, and a ton of other freebie games, not to mention the discounts and the fact it's only been two months.

And I think this predates almost any "retail" games. Shoot, why don't we just take the stuff announced at E3, add it up, and then say "here's what fifty bucks got you on month one"?

Edit: Heh, I see you edited-in similar thoughts.
 

BioHazard

Member
Well, $50/12 months is factually $4 a month, so I'm not sure about splitting hairs there. You could always do a three-month sub or just get the free months that came with Starhawk and a few other games, too.

Right, but your argument (and others) is that you are spending $4 and getting some content. Which is not true. You are spending 50 NOW (or $18 or whatever it is) and then there is a time period (1 yr or 3 mos) where you EXPECT to get that money's worth back in content. Some people here just feel that some games offered aren't making them feel like they they are getting their $50 worth (of FUN not just adding up the prices of the games normally re: that stupid pie chart of ps minis like Farming Frenzy 3 and outdated PSOne sports titles)
 

KalBalboa

Banned
And I think this predates almost any "retail" games. Shoot, why don't we just take the stuff announced at E3, add it up, and then say "here's what fifty bucks got you on month one"?

The argument then changes, goalposts move, and people start to claim that they want more retail games in the league of Just Cause 2, inFamous 2, etc... which is becoming circular.

I think that whatever next month's "Walking Dead episodes 1 & 2" is will determine some peoples' perceptions of the service. I still would rather have had a brand new $10 experience than maybe a year-old $20 one, but that all depends on the titles in question.


Right, but your argument (and others) is that you are spending $4 and getting some content. Which is not true. You are spending 50 NOW (or $18 or whatever it is) and then there is a time period (1 yr or 3 mos) where you EXPECT to get that money's worth back in content.

You absolutely do get far, far more than that $50 or $18 back. Just look at the games given at E3 alone, or, again, the discounts, betas, cloud saves, automatic upda-

You know what? I'm done with the circular stuff. It's clearly worth the $50 a year.
 

BioHazard

Member
The argument then changes, goalposts move, and people start to claim that they want more retail games in the league of Just Cause 2, inFamous 2, etc... which is becoming circular.

I think that whatever next month's "Walking Dead episodes 1 & 2" is will determine some peoples' perceptions of the service. I still would rather have had a brand new $10 experience than maybe a year-old $20 one, but that all depends on the titles in question.




You absolutely do get far, far more than that $50 or $18 back. Just look at the games given at E3 alone, or, again, the discounts, betas, cloud saves, automatic upda-

You know what? I'm done with the circular stuff. It's clearly worth the $50 a year.

If you make sure your subscription runs through E3 2012 it is :p
 

bigace33

Member
In his defense, there is a lot of whining in this thread.

I agree, the whining in here is mind boggling. Oh well, that's the way of the world. Sony could give he Uncharted Trilogy for free next month, and I guarantee someone would find something to complain about.
 

Mario007

Member
I agree, the whining in here is mind boggling. Oh well, that's the way of the world. Sony could give he Uncharted Trilogy for free next month, and I guarantee someone would find something to complain about.

"Fuck sake Sony giving me a game I already own and I'm sure 99% of other PS3 owners do as well since it's a staple franchise and so everyone bought it"

or

"Sony is only trying to get my money on those microtransactions in U3, fuck them"

or

"Sigh, another 3 overrated games"

or

"Fuck! Now I have to buy a new hardrive!!!"
 

Derrick01

Banned
I agree, the whining in here is mind boggling. Oh well, that's the way of the world. Sony could give he Uncharted Trilogy for free next month, and I guarantee someone would find something to complain about.

I'd like to find that out personally but Sony's not giving us much of a chance to test it.

I know they would buy a few months of silence from me if they gave that away.
 

Andvary

Member
They missed the boat with Darksiders, they should have been added to the IGC like Europe did. My nephew just bought Saints Row The Third because he loved Saints Row 2, a game he wouldn't have played otherwise.
 
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