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Assassins Creed 3 still playing catch-up on the WiiU to ps360 versions
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Yes, Silent Hill collection. Ps2, bow!
Nostremitus
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It's possible... but they'd have to pay more to get a CPU/GPU that weak back into production than they would to use something modern... Hell, the RAM and eDRAM alone coupled with exact replicas of the Xenon/Xenos would make it as capable as some of the lowest estimates, but we know that it has modern features and has OoOe so that invalidates the argument. I'm not saying it's a powerhouse by any means. I just think people on both sides of the argument need to start being a little more realistic.
That said, I could be completely wrong.
That was always going to be the case. People who only have the WiiU will buy their multiplatform games there, the huge Nintendo fans will buy their multiplatform games there, the majority will have the WiiU as their second system to Orbis or Durango, and how it compares technologically will be completely irrelevant.
People were THAT delusional?
Poimandres
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Despite being a more modern machine, people shouldn't just assume the Wii U versions of multi-platform titles will look/perform better. Especially not in the launch window!
If those are your expectations, you'll be setting yourself up for disappointment.
If those are your expectations, you'll be setting yourself up for disappointment.
Zoramon089
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If the Wii U can get the third party support than I rather stay a 1 console person next gen since it's easier, if it can't I'll be a 2 console person, though in my opinion if the Wii U can get the third party support people shouldn't treat it like a 2nd console for no reason, it can be a main console for lots.
I understand the Wii because of the way it was but not the Wii U if Nintendo can manege this.
Or in other term Nintendo fans will use the Wii U as their main console, Sony fans will use the PS4 as their main console, Microsoft fans will use the Xbox 720 as their main console.
It's a launch window game. I don't have a problem with the graphics being off. Especially since it's not the lead sku and the team making it likely was smaller. What matters most is the features of the game. As long as the game is as fully featured as the PS3 and 360 versions (where the EA's games aren't) that's all that matters in the end. At least to me. That the Wii U Gamepad will be used is an added bonus I feel.
Also either the guy from gametrailers was lying or perhaps the game does look best with those graphic features missing. Or just to him. Perhaps less is better in this case if there are effects missing. I know games are suppose to look better with bloom for example but I find games look a lot better with that feature turned off. Maybe it's a situation like this.
Also either the guy from gametrailers was lying or perhaps the game does look best with those graphic features missing. Or just to him. Perhaps less is better in this case if there are effects missing. I know games are suppose to look better with bloom for example but I find games look a lot better with that feature turned off. Maybe it's a situation like this.
Synless
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Sure, haven't there always been?
Yes, but the people who don't have an irrational attachment to a first party will just want the best version of multiplatform games, and that will be on PS4 or Xbox 3.
Actually the press has stated the AC3 WiiU is graphically superior.Its funny how people will ignore the gaming press but jerk off in glee to some random blog site.
This thread was created as nothing but a troll thread as indicated by the OP. Mods need to step their game up
Wrong. Shane Satterfield has stated that. Others have said the direct opposite.
Zoramon089
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But this is a baseless assumption...and assuming best version ONLY pertains to what power allows. For instance, No More Heroes best version was on the Wii despite also being on the vastly more powerful PS3, and the difference in power between the Wii U and others probably won't be that large (in addition to the VAST differences in hardware architecture between the Wii/HD twins that won't be an issue next gen)
It was stated that it would look visually identical to the two other versions, but may have some extra effects. I did actually notice extremely small extra effects, such as branches moving when you jump on them in the Wii U version, while in the PS3 version they were static. It might have been placebo or a trick of the eye, but otherwise there wasn't a whole lot of difference- especially since we don't have a direct feed of Wii U.
Quality is subjective, so in reality you could say that about any game, and anyone could say NMH was better on PS3. But realistically, that was a substantially altered game. It wasn't just the same game on a better console. It was also a Wii game ported to a more powerful system, not a HD twin game reduced to the Wii like Dead Rising for example.
So yes and no, it is an assumption, it isn't baseless.
Not to be that guy, but I think the best multiplats will still be on PC.
Certainly true, I should have made it clear I was speaking only about the people who intend to buy the consoles, not a gaming PC in addition to that.
Originality? What for? That wasn't a joke or anything. People whi think that the WiiU is going to blow PS3/360 stuff out of the water need some kind of reality check.
The purpose of this statement was to emphasis the 99% not the 1%. Most present-day PS360 games can't honestly claim to be within 1% of each other. There's more than particle effects and light sources that can effect a game's quality.
Since when? You're basically saying that sales of any multiplatform game ever to due to fanboyism. That's amongst the stupidest thing I heard. Wait until the ever-annoying PC crowd sinks their teeth into that one.
That's not even vaguely what I said.
And I think the master race could have understood the post, so I'm not concerned about their wrath.
Poimandres
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If the Wii U gets the same third party support as the other next-gen consoles it is almost guaranteed that the Wii U version will look/perform substantially worse than the other consoles. Either that, or they'll make totally different versions ala Wii... and we know how that worked out.
There might be Wii U specific features that balance out the power gulf, and that's a matter of what your priorities are, but the majority of people who do own multiple consoles next gen will most likely go for the best looking version.
So you'll wind up with a situation where self proclaimed Nintendo fans will buy a lot of multiplatform titles on their other system, just like this gen. Of course it's all just speculation at this point, but that's how I expect things to go down...
That didn't stop people from buying the PS2 version of multiplats.
That's because a massive amount of people only owned a PS2.
It's not like people held out for the worse version of RE4 on PS2 while they had a GC sitting under the TV.
You are correct but that didn't stop people from going out and buying a GameCube or Xbox to get the better graphical versions.
Zoramon089
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You realize this makes absolutely no sense? NMH between the Wii and PS3 share FAR MORE in common than DR on the Wii and 360
shinra-bansho
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I would hazard to guess that people who bought the GameCube did so for Nintendo's publishing output. While people who bought the XBOX predominantly did it for games like Halo. Rather than specifically buying multiple consoles to get the "definitive version."
It's exactly what you said. If you statement had reality behind it you wouldn't have to exclude PC gamers.
It didn't stop them, or it did?
I think it's a complicated issue. It depends on taste mostly, there were a lot less multiplatform titles that generation. You could buy an Xbox if you want the good versions of Splinter Cell, or a GC if you wanted the best RE4/BG&E, but it's not like now where the only things released that separate the consoles are first party releases.
I would say that generation 90% of games I played were exclusives, now I'd guess about 90% of the games I play are multiplatform. Certainly that's me, and it won't be true of all, but I think it was an element to that generation.
No, it is not. I said this:
Meaning, people who don't irrationally favor any first party, want the best version, regardless of what box it plays on.
It makes perfect sense. You picked a game that was designed for Wii and ported later to a HD console, of course the advantage of the HD console would be hindered by that, and the opposite practice shows how the more common scenario shows a much greater gulf. Although even that's not really true, most people on GAF seem to think those awful rail shooters that got Move ports were better on PS3.
chertipros
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Yeah, third party efforts maybe. But third parties are the same people that made wii games that looked like upressed n64 games. Nintendo's first party teams know their stuff when it comes to maxing out hardware
WrenchNinja
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So does Nintendo.
Poimandres
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The thing is, the majority of the time the PS2 versions were not substantially worse looking than the Cube/Xbox versions. Sometimes, the PS2 version even performed better!
shinra-bansho
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A counterpoint to this though is that third parties have been working on HD development for an entire generation with all the associated teething problems, while this is Nintendo's first foray (afaik) into HD development.
Well what makes people think that won't happen for the Wii U?
The problem is your making definitive statements about subjective qualities. To say that the "best version... will be on the PS4 or Xbox3" is conjecture at this point, but also completely trivializes what people place their values on. If such a claim could be made then, it could be made now, but we see nothing resembling that in the current market... and that becomes especially apparent when you consider PC versions.
Poimandres
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It's all speculation since we don't have specs for any of the machines... but in practice I think the gulf between them is going to be greater than the PS2 generation.
If the Wii U takes off in a big way you might see a lot of titles using it as the lead platform, which might lead to a PS2 style situation. But for the moment it's pretty clear that 3rd parties are banking on the new Sony/MS systems leading the charge.
Give it time and see what happens, but I don't think the Wii U getting the lions share of developer attention is looking likely.
Like you said, we should see what happens.
Poimandres
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Yeah, for sure. A new generation is a new battle!
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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How much stronger is the wii u compared to ps3/360? Shouldn't they just be able to port the game too Wii u and it would automatically be superior and at least run st higher resolution/ frame rate? Why do they actually have to "try" in order to get the Wii u version to look better? If someone where to port idk say a Xbox 1 game to 360. The 360 is much more powerful than Xbox 1 and it doesn't have a crazy architecture so you should be able to get the 360 version running with at least a higher resolution/ frame rate with no problem right? We shouldn't worry about s next gen console version looking as good as a last gen console version. No one was worried if the Xbox 1 version of splinter cell was going to look better than 360 so why all the worry for Wii u? How strong is it?
The Wii U is next gen, regardless of what you think it may or may not be.
That's something I also feel was covered.
You could argue a game running at half the framerate, looking massively worse in every area, is better because it has a map on the second screen, but that is self-evident, and it should be clear to anyone that I was speaking about 'best versions' in the traditional manner in which we discuss these things.
It's not as if SKU comparisons was just invented by me in this thread.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Really .....no way??? How did his account get stolen and how long has his account been stolen?
Poimandres
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Can we all just settle on the fact that the Wii U version will look as good as the PS360 version? It won't look any better. It wont look any worse, it'll just be on par.
We can also settle on the fact that NOBODY knows FOR SURE what's inside the Wii U.
Well, no, we can't settle for anything until the game actually comes out!
Even the PS3/360 versions are rarely truly equal, so why would the Wii U be any different?
When has this ever been the norm before though? Xbox 360 launch ports like NBA Live, Tiger Woods, NFS, Madden, King Kong all looked noticeably better on the 360 compared to the original Xbox. They had improved lighting, character models, textures, 3D crowds, etc.
Those developers had the same restrictions (new hardware to port to, limited time) yet they delivered enhanced ports. Ubisoft should be held to the same standard, especially on their biggest franchise.
shinra-bansho
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