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Yes. Everyone
Still better than Kamiya twitter wanking by far though
My new year's wish this year will be for new Bayonetta 2 media
Just give me ANYTHING Platinum! I'm so hungry for it
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Bayonetta 2 - WiiU (Director: Yusuke Hashimoto, Pub: Nintendo, Supervision:Kamiya)
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Yes. Everyone
Still better than Kamiya twitter wanking by far though
My new year's wish this year will be for new Bayonetta 2 media
Just give me ANYTHING Platinum! I'm so hungry for it
So like every console?
Not so sure about Platinum being primarily an Xbox/PS developer next gen, but we'll have to wait and see.
And 3rd party software can sell on Nintendo hardware, the Wii alone is proof, despite the large amount of shit they dumped on the system.
Mother 3 quirky? WTF?
So they're different
Anticitizen One
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the internet wasnt as old back then but I don't remember the backlash to Nintendo getting Resident Evil series exclusive to gamecube (plus the Capcom 7) to be this extreme
Hero of Legend
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Aren't we still getting NMH3? Other than Killer is Dead, what does GH have on their plate?
Hopefully they'll do a NMH HD Collection on Wii U in preparation, and do it themselves, not outsourced like NMH HD was... it suffered pretty badly.
Speaking of, why hasn't MarvelousAQL announced anything? Lots of 3rd-parties in JP are still empty of known support, WHY?! I mean Sega, MAQL, Namco Bandai (sans Tekken and Tank), Capcom sans MH3U, lots of huge gaps, hell only Tecmo Koei have a known lineup.
Nintendo's really dropped the ball on Wii U JP news, ANNOUNCE SOMETHING!!!
Remember the 3DS Fall 2010 and 2011 Conference? I do. :'( Those were huge.
I blame Nintendo Direct, it's too unpredictable, and we don't have like a JP E3 equivalent anymore (RIP Fall Conference), they could've at least announce big things around this time, why the gigantic unload before the 3DS' launch, but not Wii U's?
I also blame that Nintendo is too quiet on 2013 support, yeah we got Bayonetta 2 and what not, but what else? Bones, throw us them!
yes but if you look at the games that sold on wii you will notice that outside of ubisofts just dance games and maybe guitar hero 3 top 1 through 20 is all nintendo titles
I wish this happens so you can cry me a river. gawd brah I don't know what's up with you lol.
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That was a pre-wii Nintendo era
Which I think is what lead to the association Nintendo = Casual, more than anything.
I remember it being pretty bad (From what I remember from IGN at the time), but as soon as Remake came out and was awesome things went quiet; that and half the Capcom 5 was either cancelled or ported anyway.
Silas Lang
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I think it's a good investment by Nintendo. I'm sure they have realistic expectations of the games sales and that it will be profitable. No way are expecting Mario sales numbers or anything, and they seem to be pretty good at budgeting for games. Hell it could end up doing extremely well depending on how they advertise it. Really it's much too early to be speculating about this though, considering its gonna be a while til the game is released.
dont kid yourself
unless nintendo buys them, which is also possible, they will not bother
Well, there's a few that are similar, but Bayonetta is generally acknowledged as being the best in the genre.
Why are you under the impression that Nintendo doesn't do 'hardcore'? Have you forgotten the likes of Metroid Prime and F-Zero? Even the so called casual games like Mario get pretty damn tough if you try to 100% them.
Who cares? I'm getting an awesome game.
Considering their games aren't exactly the biggest selling, and budgets aren't going to get any smaller, I don't see why thinking that is so silly. I'm not saying they won't develop for those systems, I just don't see them going all in. I expect the same of all the smaller JPN developers this gen considering the trouble some of them had last gen (Even the bigger ones like S-E had trouble, XIII and Verses being 2 examples). Nintendo and the Wii U would be a perfect fit for them in this case.
Platinum isn't really in a situation where they can choose which plattforms they want to develop for.
They are going to make their games for whatever plattforms their respective publisher requests. Right now, they only seem to have a fertile relationship with Konami and Nintendo. If Metal Gear Rising is successful, I definitely see Konami requesting a sequel. However, if Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 live up to expectations I don't see a reason to assume that they wouldn't work with Nintendo again if given the chance.
The question really is if Nintendo wants to continue the relationship and nothing else.
take your own advice lmao.
Have you invented crystal ball technology and decided to be a dick by not sharing it with the rest of the world? >_>
Why?
i dont think the definition of "hardcore" is a "tough" game in the definition of gaming media or gaf (while i would rather accept that definition as the dudebro definition that seems to be more generally accepted).
and... well metroid prime 1,2,3 is great and all but nintendo decided to put retro on donkey kong (godly decision imho)
for f-zero well... amusement vision is doing something else now (yakuza) and we will probably not see f-zero from nintendo unless they gett he gba team to make some f-zero game (they also made tube slider i think)
True, if Bayonetta only just made a profit this gen, then it may make a loss on those systems next gen.
if they cant sell on ps3 or 360 they will certainly not sell on wii with the style they are going
also tbh metal gear rising looks like it will sell
wonderful 101 (which gives me a viewtiful joe kinda vibe, which i actually really love) and bayonetta 2 dont look like games that will do that well
Freezie KO
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Also worth noting: this is the company that greenlit a sequel to a Japan-only, hardcore rail-shooter cult classic to be released on a console sold with Wii Sports.
Nintendo knows they have to serve two masters. The evangelists and the more casual crowd.
Nintendo knows they have to serve two masters. The evangelists and the more casual crowd.
care to tell us what style they're going with?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Back then it was nintendo = kiddy
Freezie KO
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I really hope the Miiverse moderators are on their A-game when Bayonetta 2 comes out.
More importantly, they funded Odama, a pinball RTS set in feudal Japan, from the creators of Seaman, which required the Gamecube microphone to play.
By comparison, Bayonetta 2 looks like they greenlit New Super Mario Bros. 3 instead.
I remember those days...*wistful sigh*
Freezie KO
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They are pretty much the remnants of capcom team 4 ./. Clover studio
Look at the games those guys made and you get the general idea of platinum (although infinite Space seems to be a notable exception of that style)
Style? What does this even mean? Bayo 2 and W101 have completely different styles... If anything, they have a better chance on the Wii U than if they released Bayo 2 on the HD twins.
Well it is a Metal Gear game, so that's to be expected. I doubt the fact that Platinum are involved would be a factor here outside a few thousand hardcore Platinum fans.
Why not? Assuming they get a decent advertising push, I see both games doing well (101 especially).
Believe it or not, it used to be weirder, as it was also going to use the bongo controller to help control the troop morale.
Neff
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Fun fact: Nintendo fans were groomed in the 8bit/16bit era where intense, challenging action games akin to Bayonetta were prevalent. They also, believe it or not, enjoy and play games from other developers.
Yup. I love blue skies and bright colours in games. Why does everyone want all their games to look so depressing all the time?
chertipros
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Their games bomb now. Even if the next gen development costs aren't high enough to kill them off after a couple of bombs I doubt a publisher would pick up one of their games to put on a next gen system given their track record. Not saying there won't be any PG next gen games though. Rising Revengeance 2 would be sweeeet
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Well it needs to be stressed that yoot saito and vivarium were kinda in a stage of becomming nintendo affiliated at that point of time although they released seaman 2 on ps2. Yoot saito came up with the wiimote speaker idea too.
I understand that, but it's still a pinball RTS set in feudal Japan that required the Gamecube microphone to play. There isn't a universe where any company would see it fit to release it, let alone release it worldwide, if they were expecting anything resembling a return on investment on it. It's a pure vanity project the whole way through.
They were, but people bought into the marketing for some reason. I always thought it was odd that Mario was supposed to be kiddy in comparison to Sonic. They're both bright and colourful, but Sonic is rescuing cute little animals, and Mario is trying to get some action from a Princess.
H3rTz DoNuT
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I hope Capcom will step up more in the future bringing some long time gone series. Dino Crysis or Onimusha would be freaking awesome on WiiU Not sure why but I get that feeling with WiiU that is a perfect system and a perfect time for more studios to bring back their long gone series back to life.
Not sure why but I get that feeling with WiiU that is a perfect system and a perfect time for more studios to bring back their long gone series back to life.
Boss Doggie
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I'm pretty sure Nintendo (Japan) will advertise 101, it's their game. Bayonetta 2 hopefully.
KillerTravis
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Worst bump on a thread ever? I was expecting some kind of news.
Hey sega let him release seaman which is far more weird... Wasnt it like the best sellling dreamcast game?
What does that even mean, they will not bother? Who are they? The guys at Platinum games? They have as much history on Nintendo platforms as they have on Sony platforms. And even then, they don't care about silly console wars, they only want to make the best fucking games.
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