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[Pennywise]

Perhaps now that a Microsoft executive essentially outed the plans, devs are being less cautious.

As far as I renember, the actual replay of the dev took place before the Orth disaster.
So it was based on the rumors from Kotaku yesterday.

 

[Speevy]

Here you go you bastards.

Did I just enter the void?

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Wow this is going to go poorly for you.

nah, it's called logic with a little business sense.

You don't take a risk of imposing such an online drm system on a mass consumer product without some guarantees from developers.

not saying those guarantees will guarantee success, but you definitely don't just go in with such an extreme system without support.

 

[Foffy]

I think games should cost more than $59.99.

And thank goodness you're not in a position to introduce such an awful idea.

 

[LuuKyK]

Have you ever pirated ANYTHING?

Wow man... is this a bait? I cant tell.

 

[rdrr gnr]

That .gif is going to give me a stroke.

 

[watership]

Well, the subject of this topic seems mostly concerned with this Microsoft guy acting like a horse's ass.

I don't think that qualifies as important national news.

But AP picked it up! (Inception)

 

[Darryl]

Penguins&PolarBears = Adam Orth?

was this ever sussed out by DetectiveGAF? either way his full post history is a shill-parade laugh riot.

I wasn't sure how safe it was to start witch-hunting viral marketers around here but he certainly has an eerie history.

 

[Sorral]

Well, the subject of this topic seems mostly concerned with this Microsoft guy acting like a horse's ass.

I don't think that qualifies as important national news.

I wasn't serious. Just went with the meme and what this guy said/did.
Well, sarcasm doesn't translate well into text again.

 

[PaulExcellent]

I know my opinion is not the most 'popular' one, but it is just an OpFor.

Cheers, gentleman.

No, you are literally, and I mean LITERALLY, being an idiot.

 

[Off-Kilter]

I haven't read the last 20 or so pages but has Jaffe posted in this thread yet?

 

[xxracerxx]

I know my opinion is not the most 'popular' one, but it is just an OpFor.

Cheers, gentleman.

(;

The defense rests its case...

ugh.....stop trying to pull shit out of thin air.

 

[Vexxan]

Some people should really stay away from picking fights on Twitter...

 

[krypt0nian]

nah, it's called logic with a little business sense.

You don't take a risk of imposing such an online drm system on a mass consumer product without some guarantees from developers.

not saying those guarantees will guarantee success, but you definitely don't just go in with such an extreme system without support.

Nah it's called intellectual delusion.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

That Adam guy sounds like a bit of a douche.

A bit?

A BIT?

The guy sounds like a massive, elitist cunt. Fuck him. I hope he gets fired.

 

[Reiko]

I haven't read the last 20 or so pages but has Jaffe posted in this thread yet?

Yep.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I haven't read the last 20 or so pages but has Jaffe posted in this thread yet?

Yes he has. And you should read the thread, it's a riot!

 

[kadotsu]

I haven't read the last 20 or so pages but has Jaffe posted in this thread yet?

He confirmed that he's working on an always online Nextbox title.

 

[B1gg_Randall]

Here you go you bastards.

What the hell!

 

[Speevy]

I wasn't serious. Just went with the meme and what this guy said/did.
Well, sarcasm doesn't translate well into text again.

I know. I just didn't want to get banned for posting misleading information. I thought it would be more obvious that I was kidding. My bad.

 

[Joe White]

I understand that he was kind of trolling, but as the Creative Director of MGS, you'd think he would choose his words more carefully.

Yep, he should have known better; you're not sharing personal insights or jabs with a colleague on a Twitter account with "Creative Director at Microsoft Studios" on description. You represent your employer there and people can easily read those posts as comments on current rumors.

 

[AOC83]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

There isn´t a single publisher out there who is stupid enough to ignore a hardware that makes up for roughly 50% of the market.
Not even considering that this always online thing has the potential to horribly backfire.

 

[ChosenPredator]

I haven't read the last 20 or so pages but has Jaffe posted in this thread yet?

yes, he said something along the lines of he hopes he doesn't lose his job, this person is a human being with a family..cant remember what page it was on though

 

[Dreamgazer]

I haven't read the last 20 or so pages but has Jaffe posted in this thread yet?

Yes. He said adam was just joking about the city vs rural thing, but no info on the always online.

 

[Professor Beef]

nah, it's called logic with a little business sense.

You don't take a risk of imposing such an online drm system on a mass consumer product without some guarantees from developers.

not saying those guarantees will guarantee success, but you definitely don't just go in with such an extreme system without support.

So then tell us what EA/Maxis were thinking when they did the same thing with Sim City.

 

[Speevy]

That gif is seriously messing up my eyes.

 

[City of Dis]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

They'd make more money if it was also on PS4, regardless if Xbox 720 is always online.

So no.

 

[Reiko]

I know. I just didn't want to get banned for posting misleading information. I thought it would be more obvious that I was kidding. My bad.

This thread is boiling hot right now, so be careful.

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

Here you go you bastards.

Did you lose connection while downloading the gif?

You should be always online by now.

 

[watership]

I haven't read the last 20 or so pages but has Jaffe posted in this thread yet?

Yep. He says it was just joking around with a friend that people took out of context.

Adam was giving his friend- they are good friends in real life- shit about where he lives. People are taking it wrong. I GET why people are taking it the way they are based on what they have to go on, but in the interest of making the truth known: Orth was NOT knocking folks who don't live in cities and such. It simply is not that but I fear- cause Adam is a good friend of mine and a great game designer- that most folks will take it as a slap to less populated areas of the country and that is SO. NOT. ADAM.

David

 

[hymanator]

Microsoft pulled the plug on Live for the original Xbox, so what would happen if they theoretically shut down Live for this console 10-15 years from now? Will the console and it's entire library of games be completely useless?

 

[GillianSeed79]

Link?

Seriously, I've been looking for an AP link, but I can't find one. Guy is fucked if the AP picks this up (like security will escort you out of the office fucked) and MS will be in the national (buried in the Entertainment/Living page of every po-dunk paper in the country) news if AP picks it up. I have to go to bed, but I'll check the wire Friday to see if the AP actually picked this up. I'm at home right now, so I don't have access to the wire.

 

[PaulExcellent]

Here you go you bastards.

Oww.

I like it!

 

[Ouren]

I WAS HAVING INTERNET PROBLEMS WHEN I WAS MAKING THE GIF

 

[BIZ*TAKE]

Stop right there.
Don't even start this shit.

Ever pirated anything? Yes or No will suffice...

 

[Troll]

Yes. He said adam was just joking about the city vs rural thing, but no info on the always online.

He also said he's "friends" with him. So he could just be trying to cover for him as a favor.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

Here you go you bastards.

Put a seizure warning on that. Scared the shit out of my cat.

 

[krypt0nian]

Ever pirated anything? Yes or No will suffice...

Protip: if you get banned for this while still a junior, you're durango'd.

EDIT: too late

 

[LuuKyK]

Ever pirated anything? Yes or No will suffice...

Dude, just stop. Really.

Edit: well that was fast.

 

[ChosenPredator]

damn people keep quoting that fucking gif..its really brain wrenching to look at

 

[Negator]

Put a seizure warning on that. Scared the shit out of my cat.

Your cat isn't always online, why the fuck do you have a cat?

 

[Speevy]

GUYS, FOR THE FINAL TIME. I WAS THE SOURCE OF THE "AP PICKED THIS UP" THING. IT WAS A JOKE, AND I APOLOGIZE. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I KNOW, HAS NOT PICKED UP THIS STORY

 

[Professor Beef]

Ever pirated anything? Yes or No will suffice...

You are treading on very thin ice. My suggestion to you, BIZ*TAKE, is to stop before you get banned.

EDIT: welp

 

[Dreamgazer]

He also said he's "friends" with him. So he could just be trying to cover for him as a favor.

Regaedless, the city thing ia not the reason tjis is getting a negative response.

 

[UberTag]

I WAS HAVING INTERNET PROBLEMS WHEN I WAS MAKING THE GIF

Ouren... what have I told you about capturing .GIF animations on your Durango?
You know what results from that. <tsk tsk>

 

[cosmicblizzard]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

I'm not following this line of logic here. Why is 3rd party support relevant to this discussion?

 

[shinra-bansho]

nah, it's called logic with a little business sense.

You don't take a risk of imposing such an online drm system on a mass consumer product without some guarantees from developers.

not saying those guarantees will guarantee success, but you definitely don't just go in with such an extreme system without support.

Microsoft makes more money from a userbase that's connected to the internet than not.
They lose software royalties from second hand sales.
They lose software royalties from piracy.

An online userbase, all paying Live Gold fees, all purchasing digital content, without the ability to resell titles and without piracy results from online DRM.

There's your business sense behind such a decision.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

BIZ*TAKE
Banned
(Today, 07:48 AM)

 

[rdrr gnr]

Ever pirated anything? Yes or No will suffice...

Banned

 

[GoofsterStud]

Your cat isn't always online, why the fuck do you have a cat?

Are you sure he's not? He did see the gif.