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[Dereck]

I generally don't like the Zelda series, there you go.

 

[Xbudz]

I see consumers like this often at Best Buy.
They played Mario games when they were kids, but now that they are in their Late teens and 20s they feel that they've "Out grown it". That it should only be for kids. Then I have the late 20s to early 30s Parents that get and Xbox or PS3 and ask for Mario games on their systems for their kids.
Though most find that they've "Out grown" Mario, they also feel that their kids should still be raised by Mario and other Nintendo games.

I feel the same,
Nintendo will never shake that image.

They need to create a more adult offshoot.

 

[zroid]

There's also the fact that Nintendo doesn't release a ton of new IPs, and some of the people who grew up with them simply want something different. I don't think they necessarily believe the games are bad, just not different enough from what they've played before.

I don't necessarily agree with this way of thinking, but it's understandable.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

You need to have extremely narrow taste to not enjoy *any* Nintendo games.

pretty much

I get that we all have different opinions, but if you don't enjoy ANY of the different games they do or publish... then damn

 

[Camp Lo]

Shrug. I don't like any game Suda51 does.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I'm not crazy about Nintendo's output, not at the level I used to be. They just haven't taken the next level yet, though Metroid Prime did that quite well when it became the prime trilogy, so props on that. Zelda I still love but it needs to be stepped up completely. 3D mario I'll take but could leave. I like animal crossing a lot. Case by case basis.

So yeah I'm on and off. Overall I like their output but I'm not as crazy about it as I used to be. There was a time when I MUST have it, but the wii generation showed me that I can take it or leave it.

 

[outunderthestars]

I think OP is worrying a bit too much about a segment of gamers that is so narrow it might as well not exist.

Sales of the Wii U and 3DS (outside of Japan) would disagree.


That said, I love Nintendo games, but loathe Nintendo hardware. Does that count?

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Nintendo focuses on a very specific roster of franchises and mascots and whatnot, so when people say 'Nintendo Games' it's very easy to put everything they do into such a blanket statement as that - because Nintendo does have a tendency to offer the same, or a slight variation of the same, content each generation.
Of course there are new I.Ps they've released, but when a person says 'Nintendo' the next person thinks 'Mario'. That's just how it is.
If anything, its a testament to the strength of the Nintendo brand.

 

[DaBoss]

Nintendo games aren't a genre that you can generalize with the term "Nintendo games". That term is stupid used in this context, and let's not get into why this question itself is stupid.

Spoiler

Hint: People have different tastes.

 

[evangd007]

There's likely a very significant overlap between those who don't like Nintendo games and those who don't like Japanese games.

Some people prefer mature and adult themed video games (interpret that however you like), which Nintendo has nothing of the sort.

Fire Emblem. No less mature or melodramatic than Mass Effect. And Nintendo are now the caretakers of Bayonetta. But again, too Japanese.

 

[Burnburn]

Different taste?

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I guess it's like saying, "I don't like Japanese animation." It all has a similar aesthetic regardless of the many styles within. If people don't like that Nintendo polish, or look, or whatever you call it, that's just how it is.

I love Nintendo, though.

 

[Avallon]

I cannot think of a Nintendo franchise with a good story. The closest I can come is Fire Emblem, and while the gameplay is fantastic, that story is par for the course.

 

[Coffee Dog]

I feel pity for the man who can grow out of the level design Nintendo's put in their platformers the past few years. And that's just one genre of theirs, ignoring things like Fire Emblem and Luigi's Mansion.

If you say you dislike Nintendo, that discounts far too many good games, leaving me wondering what kind of games you actually do enjoy.

I cannot think of a Nintendo franchise with a good story. The closest I can come is Fire Emblem, and while the gameplay is fantastic, that story is par for the course.

The Mother series, rest its soul.

 

[Cyborg]

For me most important thing: 1: taste then 2: childish games make me sick. 3: Third and last thing; saving Peach and Zelda every time is freaking boooooring

 

[WrenchNinja]

why dont you like what I like its so good

 

[Neff]

Some people prefer mature and adult themed video games (interpret that however you like), which Nintendo has nothing of the sort.

This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read on this board.

 

[Xbudz]

Sales of the Wii U and 3DS (outside of Japan) would disagree.

Smartphones more popular among kids than Nintendo.

 

[entremet]

Preferences and system investment. It's pretty expensive to invest into the Nintendo ecosystem just for a few games you might not even like.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Shrug. I don't like any game Suda51 does.

Suda51 is one guy and his personality is ever present in his games. Therefore one would be justified in not liking anything he has done.

Nintendo is not such an entity and so it's much less likely one could genuinely dislike everything they've ever put out.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

You need to have extremely narrow taste to not enjoy *any* Nintendo games.

Nevermind the fact that, even within the flagship franchises, each entry has pretty significant differences.

I don't like brown shootbang, but I still give games like that a chance when they come out instead of writing them off. Y'know, because you can't generalize videogames by who makes them without any other meaningful qualifiers.

 

[Confidence Man]

They don't have something for everyone. For someone who likes western RPGs, multiplayer shooters, open world games, or any interesting mixture of the above, what do they have to offer? Nothing.

 

[gngf123]

I generally don't like the Zelda series, there you go.

It's almost like Nintendo have other games outside of Zelda!

 

[XenodudeX]

People these days want their high production value games with macho space marine shooters and their Uncharted press a to awesome type games. Nintendo doesn't do those. So they look elsewhere.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Sales of the Wii U and 3DS (outside of Japan) would disagree.


That said, I love Nintendo games, but loathe Nintendo hardware. Does that count?

Are you saying poor sales of a handheld and an underpowered gimmicky console demonstrate that a huge number of gamers who don't like any games Nintendo has made?

Isn't 3DS doing well now?

I may not be understanding your post at all.

 

[73V3N]

You need to have extremely narrow taste to not enjoy *any* Nintendo games.

^This.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

People have different tastes than the usual Nintendo franchises?

 

[mnz]

They usually don't appeal to me at all. I know that they are well polished and a lot of attention to detail is put in them, but they target kids and that's what they feel like, too. Mostly the gameplay is well thought out to be a good basis for variation but not exactly challenging unless you set yourself artificial goals. The artstyle is fine, but the general universe of Peach, Bowser and Mario does nothing for me. They barely ever tackle any subject at all, they just remain neutral. I actually like Kirby the most out of everything they have, because they do new and interesting stuff with him.

Of course that doesn't include EVERY game from Nintendo, that would be crazy.

edit: I also think they've put way too much effort into their soulless Wii-universe. That's pretty much the only new "franchise" we've gotten from them since the N64 era.

 

[shinobi602]

This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read on this board.

Can you explain why? You sound very angry.

 

[waypoetic]

I stopped playing Nintendo games when i stopped playing my Nintendo 64. I pretty much stopped playing videogames. When my interest re-sparked i was playing PC games like Counter Strike, Command & Conquer etc. Then i got a PlayStation 2 and when the PS3 launched i got that. I don't care for Mario, an empty character who goes "WO! WOHO! WA!" and there's this on going bullshit story about this princess and giant lizard (yes, i do know their names).

Same thing goes for Ze... Ok hold on, naming the franchise "Zelda" was pretty stupid, agreed? You play as Link. Not Zelda. I've even met people who think that Link is Zelda - probably because of the title.

I think i can sum it up to these three points :

*No voice acting
*No character progression
*No god damn story worth investing in or caring for

 

[Diablos54]

They make a ton of smaller scale games which can often be quite fun, but I feel they don't even attempt to make many Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Donkey Kong scale franchises anymore which receive the same level of marketing and budgeting support, and so the smaller scale games tend to be interesting (and often fun diversions) that simply lack ambition and don't stay in the memory very long.

Nintendo needs to do a much better job diversifying their flagship offerings withOUT any core IP characters. New shit, Ninty. I consider Nintendo the best game developer STILL, but their glow is slowly starting to fade for me and others are fast starting to get near passing them.

This SO much. I mean, I still love Mario/Zelda games, but I don't need more than 1 a gen (Unless the second is as good as Majora's Mask ). More Xenoblade/Kid Icarus type new IP's with a (Decently) big budget and advertising please.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I'd be hard pressed to think of a single big publisher which didn't make a single game I liked this generation tbh. Even EA has Mirror's Edge and Dead Space 1.

 

[Krilekk]

I was listening to an interview with Jonathan Blow the other day and he said he didnt enjoy Mario Galaxy like, at all

blew my mind

Same for me. Too much upside down action.

 

[outunderthestars]

I think a good number of people simply have not been able to play Nintendo's games in quite a few years as they are not willing to buy a Wii/Wii U or DS/3DS just to play the handful of Nintendo titles that they may be interested in.

 

[Always-honest]

You need to have extremely narrow taste to not enjoy *any* Nintendo games.

It's probably not a narrow taste, but a narrow mind. It's weird how people narrow themselve down to brand or genre.
There is so much to enjoy if you don't limit yourself with ridiculous self imposed boundries.

 

[Arkam]

Even when I was a hardcore Sega fanboy I still liked Nintendo games.

So this new breed of fanboy must be hardcore as fuck.

hahaha this made me burn my self with my coffee 0_o

Its so sad because on some level it is true.

 

[Twiforce]

They really don't span so many genre's. Most of them are platformers.

Nintendo franchises that aren't platformers.


Legend of Zelda: ACTION-ADVENTURE
Pikmin: REAL-TIME STRATEGY/ACTION-ADVENTURE
Animal Crossing: LIFE SIM
Fire Emblem: TACTICAL RPG
Metroid: ACTION-ADVENTURE
Pokemon: JRPG
Xeno: JRPG
Super Smash Bros: FIGHTING
Wii: PARTY/CASUAL
WarioWare: PARTY/ARCADE
Rhythym Heaven: RHYTHM/ARCADE
Mario Kart: RACING/ARCADE
Star Fox: SHOOT'EM UP/ACTION-ADVENTURE
F-Zero: FUTURISTIC RACING
Kid Icarus (Modern): ACTION
Mario RPG: JRPG

 

[Salsa]

Same for me. Too much upside down action.

it's more based on the fact that Jonathan Blow has been known to get outside his percieved IM SUCH A SMART GUY persona and say he really enjoys games that are pure, sometimes dumb, fun

to say that and cite some examples like Gears of War even but say he found no redeeming qualities in Super Mario Galaxy just seems very weird to me

 

[sacrificengineer]

Easily, OP.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

You need to have extremely narrow taste to not enjoy *any* Nintendo games.

Just because someone doesn't like Nintendo's output doesn't mean they only like brown dudebro shootbang. Most of the shit Nintendo has done is being done much better by other companies nowadays. It just means they have higher standards than most of the Nintendo faithful and are willing to step outside that box and see what the greater gaming world has to provide.

 

[Dereck]

It's almost like Nintendo have other games outside of Zelda!

I don't understand what this post means.

 

[silenttwn]

I feel the same,
Nintendo will never shake that image.

They need to create a more adult offshoot.

I wouldn't change a thing. In terms of their games, they have their identity down.

 

[Orayn]

Some people prefer mature and adult themed video games (interpret that however you like), which Nintendo has nothing of the sort.

I would warn against conflating "mature and adult" with the presence of explicit content.

Saint's Row, for example, is full of sex and violence but could't be much less mature if it tried. Majora's Mask has violence that's fairly stylized and cartoony, but handles some pretty grave subject matter.

 

[H_Prestige]

Nintendo doesn't cover every conceivable type of game. Not even close.

 

[73V3N]

Some people prefer mature and adult themed video games (interpret that however you like), which Nintendo has nothing of the sort.

Are the Metroid Prime games too kiddy?

 

[outunderthestars]

Are you saying poor sales of a handheld and an underpowered gimmicky console demonstrate that a huge number of gamers who don't like any games Nintendo has made?

Isn't 3DS doing well now?

I may not be understanding your post at all.

The poster said that people who don't care for Nintendo games are a narrow segment. I simply think that the relative failure of Nintendo's current systems to connect with core gamers is evidence that the "narrow segment" of gamers who don't care for Nintendo's games might not be as narrow as the poster thinks it is.

I never said a "huge number." Please do not attempt to distort my post.

And no, I wouldn't say that the 3DS is doing all that well outside of Japan.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

Same thing goes for Ze... Ok hold on, naming the franchise "Zelda" was pretty stupid, agreed? You play as Link. Not Zelda. I've even met people who think that Link is Zelda - probably because of the title.

I think i can sum it up to these three points :

*No voice acting
*No character progression
*No god damn story worth investing in or caring for

In the beginning, they weren't really developing the game from a character standpoint. It was pretty much just about the design of the game itself. The characters were irrelevant. Though some say it's still that way today, and that's a good thing for people who don't care about characters or story such as myself.

 

[Oni Link 666]

It's like when people say they don't like anime or comic books. Anime and comics aren't a genre, they're the mediums. That's like saying you don't like live action TV shows or books. Wouldn't that sound fucking crazy? There are all kinds of live action TV shows and books, surely there's one for you out there. I think some people just don't know what they're talking about and don't care to find out either.

 

[Venfayth]

I like games that I enjoy. It does not matter to me who makes a game.

 

[King of the Potato People]

I cannot think of a Nintendo franchise with a good story. The closest I can come is Fire Emblem, and while the gameplay is fantastic, that story is par for the course.

These are not whole franchises but...

Kid Icarus Uprising has a fun and witty story.
The Metroid Prime trilogy has a good story, although it's told with logs rather than cutscenes.
Most of the Mario Rpgs are very amusing and have more to them than Bowser kidnaps the princess.
Eternal Darkness' story is great, with a great antagonist and some disturbing scenes.
Skyward Sword, Majora's Mask and the Wind Waker probably have the most interesting Zelda story lines and often feel like fairy tales. Majora especially has a depressing story with a lot of room for interpretation.