Mihael Mello Keehl
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Sometimes yea it felt like Zelda but its not like me playing AAA shooter 1 and being like oh yea I experienced this before in AAA shooter 2. Fun times! No..
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How can people not like 'Nintendo Games'?
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I've played a lot of Nintendo games over the years. New entries in evergreen Nintendo franchises are designed to work as first time experiences as much as they are building on what came before, which is fine, but often times that balance is titled too far in the former direction for my tastes. Still like 'em, Nintendo creates joyous and unique experiences when inspired, but their known rotation has gotten pretty stale for me at this point as a whole.
Mauricio_Magus
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I'm a huge Zelda fan and I think TP is one of the worse Zelda games of all time, it's slow, the world is huge and empty, no NPC's, just using oot nostalgia all the time.
Then again, Majora's Mask is my favorite and we could argue it's the most different game of the series.
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Mango The Magician
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People have different tastes and opinions.
Though I would argue they're one of the few companies that actually understand how to make a game.
Though I would argue they're one of the few companies that actually understand how to make a game.
grimshawish
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How can people complain that Nintendo games don't have character/stories when there are games like Xenoblade and Kid Icarus.
I just don't believe any other games characters/script will ever be as perfect as Kid Icarus Uprising, its utterly wonderous. Hopefully something does and I certainly want more games in the same vein.
I just don't believe any other games characters/script will ever be as perfect as Kid Icarus Uprising, its utterly wonderous. Hopefully something does and I certainly want more games in the same vein.
Jailer of Hope
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Platformers is always the genre that people go to when they explain their dislike for Nintendo. I find this weird. I'm not really that big on platformers and I love most of Nintendo's offerings.
Jawmuncher
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Yeah it does seem like a lot of people are lumping games together and omitting others.
Since as I posted while some of their games do fit into that theme, stuff like xenoblade and fire emblem are great.
Mauricio_Magus
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Xenoblade and kid icarus are brilliant
MvmntInGrn
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Wait a minute. Games in a series share common elements? The variety of Zelda pre-ALTTP is exaggerated.
Also at the very least Majora's Mask is Ocarnia of Time with better story featuring a darker atmosphere/subject matter, dramatically more interesting characters, a much more lively world, time travel, the best end-of-the-world scenario in gaming to date, and transforming into other people through the remains of their dead spirits.
Edit: and fantastic traveling elements across space (dat Bunny Hood) and time.
God, or any supreme force, please help us. I loved Demon's Souls and was a late importer but I feel like GAF at large is trying to make me despise its existence sometimes.
Those are the exceptions to the rule though, right? Generally speaking, Nintendo don't produce an awful lot of games where story takes a front-seat. The two titles you mentioned there are fairly niche by Nintendo standards.
outunderthestars
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I love Nintendo games, but the fact that you had to go back 8+ years for alot of your examples should tell you something....
Mauricio_Magus
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I love Demon's Souls
What the fuck does that have to do with Zelda, they are not similar
What the fuck does that have to do with Zelda, they are not similar
Mihael Mello Keehl
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That when they make games like those they dont sell much?
Unknown One
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Because I don't put Nintendo on a pedestal.
Love Zelda though.
Love Zelda though.
Mauricio_Magus
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Not giving any reason makes your post useless
Crash Station
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Normally, I'd chalk that up to people not being aware of just how much variety there is in Nintendo-developed stuff, but I'm sure there's someone out there perfectly aware of all their output and still can't get into any of it. Of course, I imagine those people have EXTREMELY narrow tastes.
DukeTogo1300
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I sometimes feel about 50% with Nintendo. I'm so tired of Mario Kart and never liked the Smash Bros series. Mario platformers seem hit and miss for me, and a lot of their new IP's aren't really grabbing me. Still, I enjoy the Nintendo aesthetic, and there are many of their games for current systems that I just can't imagine not being enjoyable for everyone with a beating heart in their chest.
But there are...
I'm pretty sure there are no other gaming company on the planet who can match the number of franchises and genres they're published and developed games for in the last 10 years. Plenty of people have made lists already so I don't want to go and do that but at least Genre-wise the only genres I can think of that they haven't really dabbled in are FPS, realistic sports and horror games (the examples a few posts about were only published and not developed by Nintendo.)
What games does Nintendo make that appeal to gamers that only like Call of Duty/FPSs? Or only like gory/mature games like Gears/God of War? Or only like games featuring realistic people/worlds?
I know someone's just going to scoff at these gamers taste and make themselves out to be much superior than them or whatever, but they exist. And since Nintendo makes so few (if any) games that are not like that, then they are not going to like "Nintendo games".
This thread would have probably been better for Sony. They don't make all kinds of games either (lacking in RPGs), but they come much closer than Nintendo. Not to mention they have a greater focus in establishing new IPs and not relying too much on old franchises. Yet there are plenty of people who say "I don't like Sony's franchises" without a second thought. Now that's a bit weird.
EDIT: Looking at Platy's post above just makes me feel even stronger about this. Such incredibly slim pickings, despite all the platforms/generations/years apart the picks are. If Geist and Prime Hunters are really all that Nintendo's offered on the FPS front in the last decade or so, then no wonder there's people who take no interest in their games.
I know someone's just going to scoff at these gamers taste and make themselves out to be much superior than them or whatever, but they exist. And since Nintendo makes so few (if any) games that are not like that, then they are not going to like "Nintendo games".
This thread would have probably been better for Sony. They don't make all kinds of games either (lacking in RPGs), but they come much closer than Nintendo. Not to mention they have a greater focus in establishing new IPs and not relying too much on old franchises. Yet there are plenty of people who say "I don't like Sony's franchises" without a second thought. Now that's a bit weird.
EDIT: Looking at Platy's post above just makes me feel even stronger about this. Such incredibly slim pickings, despite all the platforms/generations/years apart the picks are. If Geist and Prime Hunters are really all that Nintendo's offered on the FPS front in the last decade or so, then no wonder there's people who take no interest in their games.
That they have a limited amount of game studios ?
Doctor Decimate
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ignorance, most of the time.
dismissing any publisher is generally this, unless you're displeased with their business practices. Nintendo games cover too wide of a variety to just say "i don't like Nintendo games". i'm sure there's the odd person who actually has played and disliked the majority of their games, but somehow i doubt that's most of the people who say they don't like Nintendo games.
dismissing any publisher is generally this, unless you're displeased with their business practices. Nintendo games cover too wide of a variety to just say "i don't like Nintendo games". i'm sure there's the odd person who actually has played and disliked the majority of their games, but somehow i doubt that's most of the people who say they don't like Nintendo games.
Felix Lighter
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I enjoy plenty of Nintendo games but I don't find it that hard to believe that there are people that do not. There are people that only play hardcore sims or RTSes. There are people that play only MMOs and there are definitely themes that people enjoy that Nintendo games don't tend to approach. I am not at all surprised that Nintendo love is not 100% universal.
Mauricio_Magus
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You make a great point, but those guys sound like closed minded dudebros that just play whatever is trendy or violent. Still, you're probably right.
old manatee
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A lot of new Nintendo games have a 'leave no gamer behind' mentality that doesn't appeal to me. Zelda is a great example. The original Legend of Zelda is hard as fuck and you are just dropped into it with no instruction. New Zelda games are way too easy and it feels like the tutorials are never ending.
toddhunter
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I don't consider Xenoblade to be a nintendo game in the spirit of the discussion.
Jailer of Hope
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Well if it's one genre that Nintendo has been lacking in, I'm glad it's the FPS.
Jesus...
Never grew up with Nintendo. PS3 was my first console (later a 360). The only nintendo franchise I'm remotely interested in is Zelda and someone would have to loan me a WiiU because I am not purchasing a console for a single franchise given the third party games that I do admire are absent on Nintendo's platform (Fallout is a big example).
tkscz
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I was reading through the thread and it seems that:
1. People see games by Nintendo as a genre. Nintendo made games are not a Genre on their own. That's simply who made them.
2. They don't seem to know Nintendo makes games in multiple genres.
3. They don't know that Nintendo makes more than just Mario and Zelda.
It does bug me a little that someone loves a genre of game, unless Nintendo makes it. They love strategy games, turn based or otherwise, but won't play fire emblem. They love path finder games, but won't play Metroid, and so on and so fourth. Is that everyone? Of course not, but the ones who do it make no sense, and are essentially hating the game for the people who made it, even if it's good.
1. People see games by Nintendo as a genre. Nintendo made games are not a Genre on their own. That's simply who made them.
2. They don't seem to know Nintendo makes games in multiple genres.
3. They don't know that Nintendo makes more than just Mario and Zelda.
It does bug me a little that someone loves a genre of game, unless Nintendo makes it. They love strategy games, turn based or otherwise, but won't play fire emblem. They love path finder games, but won't play Metroid, and so on and so fourth. Is that everyone? Of course not, but the ones who do it make no sense, and are essentially hating the game for the people who made it, even if it's good.
And I never said you did either...
Mauricio_Magus
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Tons of games would not be Nintendo games if you think like that. pokemon, metroid prime, donkey kong for example
Randolph Freelander
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I don't like many games, so Nintendo games are hardly alone in my list of games that hold no appeal for me.
I did not grow up with a special attachment to Mario or Zelda or any other Nintendo franchise, and even if I did, I don't need to go back to the well on those titles. I've had my fill of Nintendo games, and there are some that I have enjoyed immensely (and I can still play those games, for the most part). But the point is, I have had my fill. I see no reason to rescue the princess again. If that floats your boat, hey, that's great.
(Been playing games off and on since about 1983, by the way. I was 6.)
I did not grow up with a special attachment to Mario or Zelda or any other Nintendo franchise, and even if I did, I don't need to go back to the well on those titles. I've had my fill of Nintendo games, and there are some that I have enjoyed immensely (and I can still play those games, for the most part). But the point is, I have had my fill. I see no reason to rescue the princess again. If that floats your boat, hey, that's great.
(Been playing games off and on since about 1983, by the way. I was 6.)
sechsterangriff
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The only Nintendo games I actually got hyped about and loved playing somewhat recently were F-ZERO GX (does this even count?) and more recently Kid Icarus (loved, loved playing that).
The truth is it doesn't really matter to me if the games are great of not. I'm sure most of them are, but most of Nintendo's IP simply don't appeal to me anymore. I just end up getting really bored for some reason...
It wouldn't hurt Nintendo if it had more of these released on regular basis. Xenoblade is one of the games I really regret not playing this gen.
The truth is it doesn't really matter to me if the games are great of not. I'm sure most of them are, but most of Nintendo's IP simply don't appeal to me anymore. I just end up getting really bored for some reason...
Yes they are Nintendo games but those two are more exceptions than the rule. Very recent too. So much that they aren't regarded as by some as "Nintendo games".
It wouldn't hurt Nintendo if it had more of these released on regular basis. Xenoblade is one of the games I really regret not playing this gen.
Because I have never owned a console. I have played few Wii games my roommate had for a short time.
outunderthestars
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God i feel old.
Well I feel like I'll start a whole new debate but while I've also mentioned that it's just as weird to say that about Sony and I don't think I've seen someone say they "don't like sony games" in recent months but perhaps I'm just accidentally overlooking things.
But I think it's a little weird of you to say that Sony has more variety in their output. While I certainly don't think they are by any means starved for variety Nintendo almost certainly outputs at least the same amount if not a larger array of things (quality is a different matter entirely and there are merits to both sides.) I, for example, can't think of a turn based or real time strategy made by Sony, nor really an RPG (since PS1?) or sports games, horror games, scrolling shoot-em-ups or puzzle games [correct me if I'm wrong.] Again I think this is getting a little off track but they do cover a large amount of genres and themes and it's certainly weird to say one doesn't like "Sony games" as if they were a genre. The difference being that people don't really say that in my experience and I'm also not defending the people who do.
Why in Uncharted considered a Sony game and Halo a Microsoft game but Xenoblade not a Nintendo game? Must the developer's name comprise of a three letter abbreviation to be consider a proper Nintendo developer? I'm hoping you're not implying there is actually a development team called Nintendo.
Donkey Kong is a Miyamoto game. I sure hope you're referring to the original code kerfuffle and not that Rare is responsible for his creation.
Mauricio_Magus
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Thanks for the explanation, but that doesn't mean you don't dislike Nintendo at least
timetokill
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:lol, this makes absolutely no sense.
age has nothing to do with it imo, for me while I'm still a fan of Nintendo games, they haven't evolved beyond there basic formulas meaning they have become rather stale in many aspects.
Also Nintendo refusal to get with the times, how long did it take for their games to have Orchestral soundtracks. Voice Acting is still a taboo in Zelda games.
Also Nintendo refusal to get with the times, how long did it take for their games to have Orchestral soundtracks. Voice Acting is still a taboo in Zelda games.
radioheadrule83
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If you're asking whether some people dislike them without even trying them, and refuse to even give them a chance, the answer is yes. It's true of the relationship (or lack of) that some people have with both their hardware and software.
The same is true of some people who dislike IOS games, or PlayStation games or Xbox games.
Humans are like this. Not everything they do makes sense, nor is it always founded in reasonable logic.
The same is true of some people who dislike IOS games, or PlayStation games or Xbox games.
Humans are like this. Not everything they do makes sense, nor is it always founded in reasonable logic.
Yeah, but that's just how it is with some people. I have several friends who are like that about movies. They wouldn't be caught dead going to a Pixar movie or probably anything animated or too kiddy. I've tried to introduce a few them to some good ones too, but to no avail. They're missing out on some good stff, but hey. They like what they like. No sense in getting personally bothered by it.
tkscz
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Get yourself a SNES, Playstation, Nintendo 64, Sega Genesis, and a Dreamcast, because you are missing out.
Realistic survival
Disaster isn't that realistic despite its themes, it is more of a survival action game really.
Crash Station
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So basically, everything not developed by the EADs is not Nintendo? Alright then, guess I can see people not liking those games.
Glad we sorted that out.
OrlanisWorks
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I generally enjoy more mature video games. I loved the older Nintendo games, and I guess I can still find some respect for them for where they are now. Too bad it seems they dont really have any franchises to lean on except ones born at least ten years ago.
Different tastes. I like mature themes. Most Nintendo things don't cater to my tastes. I barely touched the Wii.
Biggest factor: control scheme. I fucking love my sticks. I almost entirely dislike motion-based controls.
In general, Nintendo bores me.
Different tastes. I like mature themes. Most Nintendo things don't cater to my tastes. I barely touched the Wii.
Biggest factor: control scheme. I fucking love my sticks. I almost entirely dislike motion-based controls.
In general, Nintendo bores me.