TAJ
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PS4 is 39% smaller. Reminds me of the endless confusion about the GPU power differences.
Cross-multiply and divide, people.
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PS4 vs Xbox One console sizes - PS4 is small
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PS4 is 39% smaller. Reminds me of the endless confusion about the GPU power differences.
Cross-multiply and divide, people.
Templar_Dante
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That PS4 is so sexy.. just damn.
Kill Your Masters
Member
The PS4 is one sexy beast. I really don't care about looks, but can't deny that Sony have scored in all departments.
If there is a 3rd console curse then there definitely is a 4th console spring.
If there is a 3rd console curse then there definitely is a 4th console spring.
Anemic specs? Does your PC have 8GB of GDDR5 and an 8 core CPU w/ GPU on the same die? Remember, the PS4 is designed to play games first and is not running a bloated Microsoft OS in the background.
jonnyp
Member
Well maybe the Xbox One is bigger to allow for more passive cooling and a quieter fan since they're aiming as much for a TV set top box as they are a games console. Just specualtion on my part of course.
You are going by the left side (vertical, bottom) and not the right side (vertical, top).
The smaller end is 27.5, the other end is larger, perceptually speaking.
Think about it this way, this is a 2D image and the part that's closer to our view sticks out more, so if it was on a 3D surface it would be closer to us. But both sides, physically, are 27.5 high (in the vertical configuration the width becomes the height).
Use your ruler on the right side, the smaller side, and you'll get the correct measurement. (The far right side, the "top" of the console.)
This is the inside. Note the most efficient design.
Note the cheap PCB and transistors. We'll know which design is more efficient when both are in gamers hands.
Fixed. Cheers.
This is the inside. Note the most efficient design.
Why couldn't they put a PSU behind the DVD drive? There are like two SATA cables back there.
Perfect! I think that's the best one yet.
edit: since you have the dimensions now I'd love a top view with them both laying flat, if at all possible.
Throw a Wii U in there if you've time. Good job.
Size: 4.58 cm high, 26.67 cm deep and 17.27 cm
This is to scale based on these measurements.
XB1: 34.3 x 26.3 x 8
PS4: 27.5 x 30.5 x 5.3
Seems way smaller to me. Like I made a mistake or something. But I used rulers and guides in Photoshop and everything.
Thanks for the accurate comparison
Man I hope Sony keep it this size and shape.
I remember the original PSP they showed at E3. It looked completly different from the released product.
probably because reality came crashing though like a freight train.... touch controls would have been horrible.
MikeJAMoran
Member
Hoho for breakfast
Member
Wow assuming that size comparison is accurate...wow. I like.
Marion Cobretti
Member
PS4 really is something else.
Not trying to come off as some super fanboy or anything, but the design, size, price, and over all super tight package they created, I feel, really shows how much Sony has learned and listened. As if they really wanted to prove that they not only wanted, but deserve the top spot. At least as far as the console space goes.
It really seems like they nailed it in just about every way with the PS4. Makes me wonder how they were capable of producing this system, all while sending the Vita to its death from day 1.
This is gonna be an awesome generation to see play out.
Not trying to come off as some super fanboy or anything, but the design, size, price, and over all super tight package they created, I feel, really shows how much Sony has learned and listened. As if they really wanted to prove that they not only wanted, but deserve the top spot. At least as far as the console space goes.
It really seems like they nailed it in just about every way with the PS4. Makes me wonder how they were capable of producing this system, all while sending the Vita to its death from day 1.
This is gonna be an awesome generation to see play out.
MikeJAMoran
Member
Well I think my Vita is going to get a lot more play with the remote play promises of PS4.
Also, with regards to Sony changing the size/design - they also did that for PS3. The original PS3 had 2xHDMI, looked nicer, etc. But the PS4 is releasing this year, whereas the PS3 reveal was about 18 months before it was released.
Look at all those extra vents!
Also, with regards to Sony changing the size/design - they also did that for PS3. The original PS3 had 2xHDMI, looked nicer, etc. But the PS4 is releasing this year, whereas the PS3 reveal was about 18 months before it was released.
Look at all those extra vents!
Now, comparing and contrasting, rewrite that sentence as thus, "So XB1 is ______."
Both comparisons are accurate, language is just limited and we don't have a word for "the other thing is smaller / larger." At least not as far as I know. I'd like to see that sentence using the smaller number. When comparing one thing to another with percentages you're dividing that one thing by another. So when the sentence starts with XB1 it's not as flattering as the opposite.
Celestial Mortal
Member
PS4 looks like a sliding bunker that will open and close with its slanty design.
MikeJAMoran
Member
Both comparisons are, but the post I was referring to quotes someone saying the PS4 is 65 per cent smaller, which isn't accurate.
Yeah, I agree that the bullet point comparison was wrong but it is easy enough to fix. The original contention was that the XB1 was 65%~ larger, which is correct. The guy doing the bullet point soundbyte thing just worded it wrong.
nib95, thanks man, post them both when you do, so we can quote it as the thread grows.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I was going off of volume figures that were rounded, (and I rounded my solution by 0.1)which explains why my number was a little different, but yeah.
I remember on the DVD board I used to read when DVD launched, absolutely no one was confused by anamorphic being 33% higher resolution and non-anamorphic being 25% lower res than anamorphic.
Nice.
Is it just me or does it looking absolutely beautiful at this angle and with that lighting?
Wow, that is beautiful. Who took this pic? I like the subtle thin blue light on the side.
MikeJAMoran
Member
I think that was a screenshot of the 3D model shown here: http://sketchfab.com/show/b7LzIm8JrnPw4GBDOMBNGYc39qM
man if this is correct then wow its slim PS4 already
Thanks. Interesting site.
I think the original bullet point just confused the language. PS4 is 38% smaller, XB1 is 65% larger. It's definitely the same as the GPU comparisons but both are accurate, it's how you frame the sentence. I do think that the bullet point should be changed to say 38% though and the other numbers may need tweaking, I'm not going to bother to go back to GPU specs.
(And I still think PS4 has a thermal issue, but I'll let it go for now. We'll see in a few short months.)
Sure, but unified memory takes a lot of hassle out of things. It's an architecture computer scientists have been wanting forever.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
Can someone point out where the disk drive is on the PS4?
left hand side in the gap between the top and bottom halves. slot load.
I agree.
I have more depth available than width, so well done again sony!
I wonder if like the ps3 slim, all the air vents to suck in the air are placed accross the bottom of the system? cant make it out from the images.
Celestial Mortal
Member
Tilt your head right, then watch the space left of the USB ports. It's near the top part with the black glossiness.
And it seems like it is a disc loader and not a disc tray, which is amazing.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
I increased the damn contrast because admittedly it's hard to see... not loving the location of it, but it should be OK (it's a little wider / thicker than most slots).
Celestial Mortal
Member
That is not really the point (the post I responded to did not say anything about unified RAM, just GDDR5). GDDR5 main RAM (in itself) is not an advantage vs a PC because PCs have the GPU having it's own high bandwidth memory and CPUs do not need huge amounts of bandwidth.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
If those side by side pictures are accurate that's a pretty shocking difference. Didn't Microsoft say they went with a giant fan to run completely silently? I wonder if that's why the X1 is so big.
It's more a question about bandwidth vs latency. If you have to build your software around bandwidth you have to do a lot of caching to make sure stuff flows properly. If you have to build your software around latency, you can simply prioritize. There's no worrying about caching and fitting data into little pools of memory. It's all accessible at the same time. Volia, developers can just get shit done.
HSA / hUMA proposes to say "hey, we want to base everything on priority rather than caches." It simplifies the entire process. The ideal computer scientist architecture uses a single address space OS and avoids task switching and is effectively functional. But that's beyond the scope of this discussion. A unified memory space merely moves us to that eventuality.
Bandwidth is far more important than latency at this level.
Increased the contrast so ya'll can see it and stop asking, heh. I admit it's hard to see!
Looks like they just wasted a lot of space in there.