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Fitness |OT5| Intermittent Farting, Wrist Curls and Hammer Strength Machine Spotters

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Cudder

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do these lever weight belts come recommended?
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looking for a new one since mine got stolen. seem to be okay, easy to get in and out, same width all the way around..
 

Noema

Member
How much do you weigh?

I rarely go above 315 when squatting, usually stick to around 2.5 plates :\

220lb(ish)@6'2" ;(

I should be squatting more given how long I've been training, and how much I've squatted in that time (at least 2x per week, often more), and how central I consider squats to my training, and specially given that I can easily deadlift 450lbx5, and can probably hit 5 plates for 1RM with straps.

It feels like bashing my head against the wall. I mean, my bench is awful too, but I don't care because a) I have a bad shoulder b) It's not a squat :p

At this point I'm sure it's more of a mental issue than anything. I need therapy. I need a shrink who's also a powerlifter.
 

agrajag

Banned
If you think RDLs are bad, wait 'till you try Good Mornings.

I do them with half the weight I do RLDs with, and I'm 10x more sore :O

I think RDLs are a fantastic assistance exercise, but they didn't really help my squat which is what I was hoping they'd do. I think they are more of a Deadlift builder.

So I switched to GMs, since both Bill Starr and Wendler sing their praises as a squat booster. As many of you know, I'm the Worst Squatter Ever (TM) and I need all the help I can get!

I do both, but I'm scared to go too heavy on Good Mornings in fear of fucking up my lower back. With RDL I can go much heavier, so they do more of a number on my hams. Also, I'm currently doing high bar squats, so I don't think Good Mornings really help me with those.
 

Noema

Member
I do both, but I'm scared to go too heavy on Good Mornings in fear of fucking up my lower back. With RDL I can go much heavier, so they do more of a number on my hams. Also, I'm currently doing high bar squats, so I don't think Good Mornings really help me with those.

Oh, yeah. GMs have to be treated with a lot of respect. I do them super light, I'm at like 105lbx8 and I add 5lb per cycle, whereas I was doing RDLs with 275lb.
 

rando14

Member
220lb(ish)@6'2" ;(

I should be squatting more given how long I've been training, and how much I've squatted in that time (at least 2x per week, often more), and how central I consider squats to my training, and specially given that I can easily deadlift 450lbx5, and can probably hit 5 plates for 1RM with straps.

It feels like bashing my head against the wall. I mean, my bench is awful too, but I don't care because a) I have a bad shoulder b) It's not a squat :p

That's very peculiar indeed, especially considering you have very respectable DL numbers, implying you have strong hamstrings and lower back. Perhaps you might need to work more on quad and glute strength?

Though my best guess is, you might just have a bad body type for squats. Long legs, short torso?
 

Noema

Member
Though my best guess is, you might just have a bad body type for squats. Long legs, short torso?

Yeah, that's me :p But I'm also scared shitless of squats. I do my 531 squats on Monday, and usually it ends up ruining my Sunday because I feel such anxiety. I literally can't get them out of my mind.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
Just had two 16oz chicken breasts and looked up how much protein is in them, 180-200g. I hit my protein macros today off two meals and I'm right at around 65 grams of carbs.

Don't you only absorb around 50g of protein per meal though? Think it needs to be more spread out.
 

rando14

Member
Yeah, that's me :p But I'm also scared shitless of squats. I do my 531 squats on Monday, and usually it ends up ruining my Sunday because I feel such anxiety. I literally can't get them out of my mind.

Ah that's unfortunate haha, got dealt a bad hand in that regard.

This may be a silly question, but considering the mental impact it's having on you, why do you feel the need to lift so heavy on squat? I'm not quite sure what your goals are, but if you're just a recreational lifter than I'd argue that we all have weak points, we just have to learn how to work with and around them.

Don't you only absorb around 50g of protein per meal though? Think it needs to be more spread out.

I believe this is a myth. I eat a large majority of my protein in one meal and it hasn't hindered me.
 

Noema

Member
Ah that's unfortunate haha, got dealt a bad hand in that regard.

This may be a silly question, but considering the mental impact it's having on you, why do you feel the need to lift so heavy on squat? I'm not quite sure what your goals are, but if you're just a recreational lifter than I'd argue that we all have weak points, we just have to learn how to work with and around them.
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I agree completely, but for me it's mostly about the process, about how all these squats in a way help me become a better person and what I can learn while trying to get better at something I'm naturally not good at (first time I squatted 135lb I couldn't do a single rep).

My goal is to eventually be able to squat 405lb for reps with ease, and hopefully reach for a 5 plate squat, even if it's just a single. It'll take years, but I'm willing to do what it takes. It's just something I need to do; I feel truly compelled. I would never forgive myself if I allowed myself to give up on that. All my life I have been very mediocre and weak-willed. Squats are sort of a way of teaching me how not to be like that, of reminding me that I have to work hard and that life is sometimes supposed to be hard, and that we who are fortunate to live in developed or quasi developed countries often have truly pampered lives in many ways.

I'm really not naturally good at anything, so I like doing difficult things and grinding my way out of mediocrity. I guess the squat has become sort of a challenge in that way, almost like a metaphor of life. It's gotten to a point in which I almost have some sort of mystical thing going on with it, even if I'm not at all religious or spiritual in any way. I mean, this is what I usually listen to before my heavy squat sets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvWXCKygxJQ :p
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
220lb(ish)@6'2" ;(

I should be squatting more given how long I've been training, and how much I've squatted in that time (at least 2x per week, often more), and how central I consider squats to my training, and specially given that I can easily deadlift 450lbx5, and can probably hit 5 plates for 1RM with straps.

It feels like bashing my head against the wall. I mean, my bench is awful too, but I don't care because a) I have a bad shoulder b) It's not a squat :p

At this point I'm sure it's more of a mental issue than anything. I need therapy. I need a shrink who's also a powerlifter.

I know that feel. I thought for the past month I couldn't bench a plate. My friend told me to just do a 35+10 instead to trick myself into thinking ok I'm only benching 35 lbs since the 10 is hidden. Last night I tried it and benched 135 for 3x5 felt so good.
 
Second day of Keto is over. There was a rough patch on the afternoon but I am feeling very well overall:

Calories 2,252
Carbs 36
Fat 154
Protein 156
Sodium 5,626
Potassium 311
Magnesium 400

That's a 750cal deficit from maintenance! And I literally can not eat more today! I guess it's because today is rest day on Advanced novice SS. I have drunk so much water today, it's crazy
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
Just had two 16oz chicken breasts and looked up how much protein is in them, 180-200g. I hit my protein macros today off two meals and I'm right at around 65 grams of carbs.

I was shitting/farting like a human septic tank for three days straight from all the excess protein I was ingesting...now you will share the same fate.

My coworkers hated me, and I laughed and laughed.
 

abuC

Member
Don't you only absorb around 50g of protein per meal though? Think it needs to be more spread out.

I don't know, to me it seems kind of weird that the human body would work like that to be honest. Early man wasn't able to spread his protein intake out, if he went a couple of days and finally got a big kill and some beef I have trouble thinking the body would just let that protein go to waste.

If it were true it would mean eating a 16oz steak is pretty much pointless, since there's 80-100g of protein in it.



I was shitting/farting like a human septic tank for three days straight from all the excess protein I was ingesting...now you will share the same fate.

My coworkers hated me, and I laughed and laughed.


Yeah I'm like that right now, I got around 280-300 grams today and I wasn't even really trying to go that high just worked out that way...all on 1900 calories.
 

despire

Member
Don't you only absorb around 50g of protein per meal though? Think it needs to be more spread out.

Actually the myth states it's 30g per meal. But like I said, it's a myth. Your body will absorb practically anything you feed it. You can feed it 300g of protein in a one sitting and it will be absorbed, it just takes a little bit longer.

There is a limit however to how big of an anabolic response you can get from protein at a given meal. I believe Layne Norton has said, that something in the region of 40g of protein in a meal will pretty much max out the anabolic response. So in that case it makes sense to not eat all your protein in one sitting (there are also other reasons of course). But this doesn't mean that you need to eat 6 meals a day either, plenty of people get good results with just 3 meals per day.

So yes, it's a myth. Your body will absorb every nutrient you will feed it unless you have some medical issue.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
Thanks for the glutes/hams suggestions guys, I will try them out today and let you know.

Noema, I am with you, long legs and short torso, and my squat is ridiculously disproportionately weak compared to my deadlift. Also, squat always fills me with dread. I even squatted with a stack of small plates for ages instead of putting a big plate on!
 

Petrie

Banned
Damn! That would be so awesome seeing you there. With how much you can muscle up, I could totally see you owning the salmon ladder.



My friend is currently training for it and hell once I'm in great shape I'd love to try it. Am pretty luck that there's a nearby parkour gym run by a guy who competed on American Ninja Warior so once I'm ready I can train on the Warped Wall, salmon ladder, cliffhanger etc.

Lucky. Nothing like that seems to be in my area. I'll be putting something together myself one day I hope though. It's definitely near the top of my list for reasons to train.

I appreciate the response, might have to look into those noodles lol

Also i'm glad to hear the bars don't mess with your glucose levels, I was just concerned about ya after reading those comments;)

I appreciate the concern for sure. It definitely spikes a bit more than I'd expect from 10 grams of carbs, but that's likely because being so low carb some of that protein is getting converted to sugar.
 
Joined the gym again after not going for a year. Doing a 3 day full body split, been a bit lazy at recording the reps I managed for most lifts, for some reason the only lift I've ever cared about is my squat (probably why it is as strong as my deadlift).

Goals basically being a combination of firstly, getting stronger, and secondly, being able to dunk. I'm 6'3 and can grab the rim so I'm not far off. Does gaf have any recommended exercises etc for gaining vertical? Anything not involving a clean preferably.

If I want to dunk sooner rather than later, I take it cutting will probably help more than bulking? I'm 85kg atm (so basically skinny-fat).
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
Yeah they are. Works out at £2.50 a bar. For £20 more I could get a 2.5Kg tub of protein.....but they look so tasty.

Yeah, way too expensive.

£1.50 a bar would be my limit. Would love to try them so hope they officially start supplying them here.
 
Pretty psyched for today, first day of SS routine. Decided I'm gonna do 3 sets of squats with just the bar, then on the last two I'll add 10 lbs plates to each side and see that how goes. Still not sure how deadlifts work but I convinced a buddy to come along to check my form. Then I'll do presses. Feeling anxious but positive. I'll post my impressions later. :)
 

sphinx

the piano man
Pretty psyched for today, first day of SS routine. Decided I'm gonna do 3 sets of squats with just the bar, then on the last two I'll add 10 lbs plates to each side and see that how goes. Still not sure how deadlifts work but I convinced a buddy to come along to check my form. Then I'll do presses. Feeling anxious but positive. I'll post my impressions later. :)

Your Fitness life is about to get a 100 times more exciting.

After a couple of weeks you'll LOVE them and you'll feel very accomplished as you start breaking PRs left and right.

You are gonna make it.
 

Exis

Member
I am trying intermittent fasting this week as my fat loss has been stalled out for over a month and I am trying to kick it in the ass. So far my energy levels have been through the roof and I find myself having a hard time going to sleep. I am still eating around 2000 calories and over 200 grams of protien a day. The biggest problem so far is I have not really pooped in two days and all of this is gonna come out of me at some point.

For anyone who has done it, I can't really lift fasted as I workout around 7PM, does anyone know how much of an impact this will have on fatloss? I cannot seem to find info on this anywhere.
 
Your Fitness life is about to get a 100 times more exciting.

After a couple of weeks you'll LOVE them and you'll feel very accomplished as you start breaking PRs left and right.

You are gonna make it.

The goal here is to overcome my plateau, break thought my strength limits, push my body further. If I get bigger, awesome. The theory sounds good. I need to see it for myself.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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New OHP PR last night. As much as I feel like I'm not making a ton of progress, numbers don't lie.
 
Can someone recommend me a good assistance exercise for Bench Press on 5/3/1 BBB. Right now I'm doing weighted dips as my assistance, but all my other lifts have skyrocketd and my bench press has stalled hard.
 

SeanR1221

Member
Ok help me out guys.

Finally got batteries for that heart rate monitor. I figured it would estimate calories burned too, but it doesn't. Is there a good calculator for estimating calories burned based on heart rate??
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Looking good Boogie! Now hurry up and start that bulk and cover those abs with flab! You're making us look bad.
 

deadbeef

Member
Can someone recommend me a good assistance exercise for Bench Press on 5/3/1 BBB. Right now I'm doing weighted dips as my assistance, but all my other lifts have skyrocketd and my bench press has stalled hard.

With BBB shouldn't you be doing the 531 sets of bench press then 5x10 bench press and then a rowing movement? Where is the room for any extra assistance work
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Looking good Boogie! Now hurry up and start that bulk and cover those abs with flab! You're making us look bad.

lol I've already begun bulking. In fact, I believe I gained like 3 pounds last week. Albeit I was swamped with work and could not exercise much at all, but still. Having a hard time not overeating on this bulk, as I want to gain as little fat as possible, so it's a balancing act sometimes with how much I can eat.

I didn't realize just how easily I can eat 3000+ calories every single day. :p
 

Teggy

Member
Let's get some Quest Bar talk up in here. I have had my first tastes, with Peanut Butter Supreme and Apple Pie. Both microwaved 10 seconds.

I need to try PB Supreme again for a full review. I think I need to up the microwave time for that one to 15 seconds, but it tasted pretty good. Apple Pie IMHO is a little on the too-sweet side. I might not microwave the next one which I think will help with that.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
I hear ya Boogie. I can eat 6,000 calories a day and not break a sweat.

Let's get some Quest Bar talk up in here. I have had my first tastes, with Peanut Butter Supreme and Apple Pie. Both microwaved 10 seconds.

I need to try PB Supreme again for a full review. I think I need to up the microwave time for that one to 15 seconds, but it tasted pretty good. Apple Pie IMHO is a little on the too-sweet side. I might not microwave the next one which I think will help with that.

I'm ALWAYS down for quest bar talk! I may be the only one who doesn't microwave. I actually prefer them cold. All of them. Apple pie and PB Supreme are both top five. Good choices.
 

Cudder

Member
Let's get some Quest Bar talk up in here. I have had my first tastes, with Peanut Butter Supreme and Apple Pie. Both microwaved 10 seconds.

I need to try PB Supreme again for a full review. I think I need to up the microwave time for that one to 15 seconds, but it tasted pretty good. Apple Pie IMHO is a little on the too-sweet side. I might not microwave the next one which I think will help with that.

legit lol'd
 
With BBB shouldn't you be doing the 531 sets of bench press then 5x10 bench press and then a rowing movement? Where is the room for any extra assistance work
Does it have to be a rowing movement? I have seen that recommended, but I'm not sure. And my copy of the ebook doesn't go over the BBB template. Currently I do the following:

Bench Press 5/3/1
Bench Press 5x10 @ 50%
5x10 Weighted Dips

I was looking for something to replace the weighted dips since I'm stalling. But if a rowing movement is required on BP days then that may be my problem.

close grip bench for dat tricep strength.
Forgot about that one. Thanks.
 
Does it have to be a rowing movement? I have seen that recommended, but I'm not sure. And my copy of the ebook doesn't go over the BBB template. Currently I do the following:

Bench Press 5/3/1
Bench Press 5x10 @ 50%
5x10 Weighted Dips

I was looking for something to replace the weighted dips since I'm stalling. But if a rowing movement is required on BP days then that may be my problem.


Forgot about that one. Thanks.

It isn't that it is required, it is about achieving balance with your body. Doing a rowing motion is recommended because the bench is a push and rowing would be a pull. On top of that, strong lats/back can help you with your bench. Where do you tend to stall out on the bench?
 

Szu

Member
I hear ya Boogie. I can eat 6,000 calories a day and not break a sweat.



I'm ALWAYS down for quest bar talk! I may be the only one who doesn't microwave. I actually prefer them cold. All of them. Apple pie and PB Supreme are both top five. Good choices.

I don't nuke them, but I don't eat them cold. They sit in my bag until I take them out. The inside of my bag warms them up a bit.
 
It isn't that it is required, it is about achieving balance with your body. Doing a rowing motion is recommended because the bench is a push and rowing would be a pull. On top of that, strong lats/back can help you with your bench. Where do you tend to stall out on the bench?
I do rows on my back day as asssistance and I also do random sets of widegrip pullups throughout the week. Don't know if that's optimal but in 5/3/1 Jim recommends doing a shitload of pullups throughout the week. I don't know if that's optimal with BBB though. I don't go crazy, but I'll randomly do a set during my rest time.

When I fail on bench it's always about halfway up. I feel like my arms are the weak part of the equation. They always feel more tired than my chest. I rarely fail though since I tend to workout alone and I read Jim Wendler saying to always leave at least 1 good rep in the tank.

I've had to reset my bench weight though and I'm actually getting less reps than I did when I was at this point before I reset.
 

sphinx

the piano man
O.k, this is it, the thread's final countdown. It has some hours of life left, this and next page, plus whatever the mods allow past post 20k.

As I pack things up and prepare for OT6, I want to thank everyone for the nice times we've had and looking forward to more fitness talk in the new thread.

And before the thread goes supernova, here is my mod-approved ass progress pic:

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damn you all if you leave alone in the ass pic fest, lol
 
I do rows on my back day as asssistance and I also do random sets of widegrip pullups throughout the week. Don't know if that's optimal but in 5/3/1 Jim recommends doing a shitload of pullups throughout the week. I don't know if that's optimal with BBB though. I don't go crazy, but I'll randomly do a set during my rest time.

When I fail on bench it's always about halfway up. I feel like my arms are the weak part of the equation. They always feel more tired than my chest. I rarely fail though since I tend to workout alone and I read Jim Wendler saying to always leave at least 1 good rep in the tank.

I've had to reset my bench weight though and I'm actually getting less reps than I did when I was at this point before I reset.

http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/07/22/narrow-your-thinking-for-a-bigger-bench-press/

Nice little article that might help you out.
 
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