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Games for Windows Live shutting down July 1, 2014.
- Thread starter Archie
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Hmm ok thanks. The only games I have I also have on 360, but I like the PC versions better. GTA IV, Fable III, Dark Souls PTD, Fallout III, Arkham City.
Well except Halo 2, but I finished that years ago. Other than achievements I guess I'm ok with this. I would assume achievements tied to your Xbox Gamer Tag would be discontinued after this time as well then, right?
Version 3.0
Member
Funny, I would call it airing of legitimate concerns. It'll be interesting to see how many games are patched and how many lost in the end. Officially, I mean. The community will crack them all, I expect.
LiquidSolid
Member
Are people really still mixing up Koch Media with Koch Industries? SMH.
TouchMyBox
Member
Right-click - Set Category.
I wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally install GFWL on my fresh OS install.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
I only have RE5 and the DR2 games that use GFWL. I hope Capcom fix this.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Aren't they already cracked? Is there any game released until today that hasn't been cracked?
UnrealEck
Member
Either the dev will be forced to patch it, or the community will fix it.
Ahh the joys of PC gaming.
If you crack GFWL out of them, not, they'll be playable (outside of the online portions/features of said games, of course).
That's the case with Dark Souls. Of course... that'll happen on PS3 too, when they shut down the servers.
Evidence of Warner Brothers patching out GFWL for both Arkham games
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=619976
I was one of the people that Steam offline mode pretty much always worked for...until earlier this year, when my internet detected late or something, and Steam refused to use my saved login credentials to start offline mode. I tried like 30 different things as a detailed experiment (disconnecting network cable, the usual stuff that works), and posted the results on GAF, and was never able to get it working. Amusingly enough, I pulled up a backup USB drive with my Steam installation from like 2-3 years ago on it, and THAT installation and its games worked. But modern Steam, nope.
So, even with Steam, which I like, DRM sucks when something doesn't work nicely.
As for GFWL, yes, bury this one deep. I do feel a strange end-of-an-era sadness, mostly for the games which may vanish. I have fond memories of FUEL on Steam. I think there is a GFWL-removal fan patch for that though.
And Fallout 3, yikes, that's a big game and I only made it partway in. Odds of me finishing that by next year are low.
paolo11
Member
So if I have the GFWL only version, does it mean it will be DRM free or it will now turn to Steam version?
Metalmurphy
Member
It probably means you're shit out of luck.
Steam still has huge issues with shutting down incorrectly. Some of the files get corrupt and you need to go online to repopulate those files.
If you are really worried about it, then check it out online and find which specific ones to backup in case of emergency.
That is why your 3 year old installation worked, those files were not corrupted.
You are probably going to get screwed.
You bought games through GFWL Marketplace?
Unless Bamco decides to step in, yeah.
It should activate on Steam
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-wusf-3601
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm not too versed in Dark Souls retail.
I saw mention of such files, and I think I backed them up after I went online again. So if it happens again I can continue the experiment by restoring those files at least.
I have it retail, just type the gfwl key into Steam
This is pretty crazy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_for_Windows_titles
Apparently there are games that will still come out for it and two came out in 2013! (The games with "Live" will get screwed the most).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_for_Windows_titles
Apparently there are games that will still come out for it and two came out in 2013! (The games with "Live" will get screwed the most).
Syphon Filter
Member
I'd email the publisher. You never know they might patch it out.
Huh, that is in a frustrating scenario of the developer and publisher not being connected, huh? Not that they can't hire someone to hack it out.
Syphon Filter
Member
We don't know if its getting steamworks just because it is patching out gfwl.
Version 3.0
Member
Heck, I don't know, probably. I don't pay attention normally. I'll find out after next July.
poopninjamvc3mk
I sucked six dicks to get this tag.
Online is dead for it anyways and there's other ways of playing as mentioned earlier in the thread.
Well yeah, it's only games with live that are going to be screwed.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_for_Windows_%E2%80%93_Live_titles
The real list.
Not until July 1st next year. And only if From doesn't go back and rework it.
Guess this also means Lost Planet Colonies edition also isn't going to be cross-platform play in a year.
RFG has been stuck in a self-patch loop with a bugged version for years making the game unplayable. Nobody cared about RFG then, and now that THQ is dead, even less people care.
There is a difference between Games for Windows and Game for Windows LIVE.
Games for Windows it's some kind of "certification", that that specific game will work under Windows, and will support things like the XBox 360 controller. Games like Alien vs Predator 2011, Just Cause 2, Dishonored, Fallout New Vegas have this "certification", but all of them are Steamworks, and you don't need to activate the key on the DRM.
Games for Windows LIVE it's the full DRM. With key activation and everything.
My guess is the 22nd, but who knows.
poopninjamvc3mk
I sucked six dicks to get this tag.
Not until July 1st next year. And only if From doesn't go back and rework it.
Guess this also means Lost Planet Colonies edition also isn't going to be cross-platform play in a year.
Is LP even active? been thinking about picking it up
Ogedai_Khan
Member
Soo....what's going to happen with Iron Brigade. That game was made for online co-op!! Sigh. :-(
Buttonbasher
Member
THQ doesn't exist any more though.
Jawmuncher
Member
Capcom and Namco better patch all their games to not use GFWL. Though I'm pretty sure MS will be throwing something up that enables these games to be played still. Though obviously multiplayer support won't be there.....which means yet again ill be playing dark souls solo offline.
Maybe the publishers that bought their IPs will look into it.
bengraven
Member
Yeah, the wicked witch is dead, we should cheer because
Oh wait...no, that FUCKING SUCKS.
Bolding games I owned (in the second group) and games I wanted to buy (in first group).
Oh wait...no, that FUCKING SUCKS.
Bolding games I owned (in the second group) and games I wanted to buy (in first group).
Unless Double Fine or MS Studios intervene, only other option would be to get the XBLA version.
It was years ago. Played on the 360 side, left because PC hackers were starting to pick up on it. Dunno if the Japanese playerbase is still active for Colonies and with the shutdown it won't really matter in a year.
As for Extreme Condition/non-Colonies: Dunno on that front. Dunno how popular it was on PC in Japan or the West.
You will be able to upgrade Street Fighter IV to the Ultra version which will not use GFWL multiplayer.
bengraven
Member
I guess we could always play offline right? Yeah, we miss out on that sweet multiplayer, but if we wanted to play single, it would still launch GFWL, just not connect...?
Someone help me out because i really want to go back and play RFG in the future again.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Lots of games have the Game For Windows label. This is not what we're worried about, as a lot of them are Steamworks games (like everything Bethesda has published in the past couple of years).
We are worried about games with the Games For Windows Live label. These games requires the GFWL for multiplayer and, in many cases, single-player.
The new publisher is Nordic Games, who I've heard buy IPs only to sit on them. I'm skeptical that they'd patch Guerilla.
Buttonbasher
Member
Oh right. I was confusing the Red Faction IP with Vigil not getting picked up for some reason.
You're forgetting Lost Planet: Colonies Edition for online AND the achievements. There's online achievements (reaching level 100 which is GOOD FUCKING LUCK at this point unless you manipulate files/hack it) with it as well.