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[Vashetti]

Could clock speeds be raised with a software update in the future? Or is that crazy talk, because I have no idea.

Happened with the PSP so yes.

 

[Goodacre0081]

so no one else noticed that the chart says said Wii instead of Wii U?

with Microsoft's bad DRM/used "messaging" to the actual name of Nintendo's console, there's something to be be said for clarity in the gaming market.

 

[AstroNut325]

Well, first sometimes things due not end up as everyone believes, more so that consoles fates do not rely on us, the enthusiasts, which buy a lot of games, but on the casual gamers. I believe the market is changing, I am no analyst and I don´t have any studies to back this up. I hope the low sales we are seeing are because of Next gen systems coming, but I also believe the console space has more competition now than ever before. Decent gaming PCs are way cheaper than before, and with AMDs APUs this trend will continue to drop. The PC game market is cheaper, just like the other competitor to consoles, tablets and phones. I don´t see casuals dropping 60 on games like before, maybe just Madden, Fifa and/or CoD.

I would have agreed partially if you said tablet, mobile, or mini console (PSVTV) were going to pave the roads to the future. But PC gaming... no. Simply no. Expecting any person casual person to put together a gaming rig close to the price of a PS4 from nothing is NOT going to happen. No matter that happens with APUs and stuff. No matter how cheap the games are. Will PC gaming see a rise? Yes. I absolutely think so. But consoles are where the casual audience will go.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

Happened with the PSP so yes.

AFAIK, PSP was initially down-clocked for battery life. They only up-clocked when the higher capacity battery became available.

 

[Prelude.]

Ok that footage wasn't new and in fact I think he was playing a video.

No, he's playing for real. He's doing the same things but it's definitely not the same footage.

 

[Tallshortman]

Well, first sometimes things due not end up as everyone believes, more so that consoles fates do not rely on us, the enthusiasts, which buy a lot of games, but on the casual gamers. I believe the market is changing, I am no analyst and I don´t have any studies to back this up. I hope the low sales we are seeing are because of Next gen systems coming, but I also believe the console space has more competition now than ever before. Decent gaming PCs are way cheaper than before, and with AMDs APUs this trend will continue to drop. The PC game market is cheaper, just like the other competitor to consoles, tablets and phones. I don´t see casuals dropping 60 on games like before, maybe just Madden, Fifa and/or CoD.

The chart as shown is for the three home consoles, broken down in percentages and not units sold. It has nothing to do with competition outside of those 3 machines or whether they sell 100 units or 100 million. The only market changes that would affect that chart is if something happened that made one or two of those companies gain more of those total sales.

 

[~Kinggi~]

I want to hug Jack Tretton

 

[djshauny]

I wonder how many consoles are manufactured allready.

Any guesses

 

[ProfessorMoran]

Let's have some NEGATIVE Sony news for once please.

Just kidding, the Sony hype party-train just keeps getting more passengers. All aboard!

Sony hype train is like the galaxy express.

 

[IN&OUT]

Jack one of the guys who doesn't stutter or say "Umm" when answering questions, I envy him on his eloquent and smoothness .

 

[sn00zer]

Happened with the PSP so yes.

I thought that was a hardware, not a software update

 

[AzaK]

Lol, the "Wii".

so no one else noticed that the chart says said Wii instead of Wii U?

And the XBOX instead of XBOX One

 

[Bronetta]

Gotta love how the majority of posters are pointing out the Wii U is missing the U in the graph yet completely ignoring the lack of One from Xbox

 

[Reg]

I don't see Nintendo with 15%.

 

[Vashetti]

I thought that was a hardware, not a software update

Nope, happened through firmware.

 

[vasametropolis]

Gotta love how the majority of posters are pointing out the Wii U is missing the U in the graph yet completely ignoring the lack of One from Xbox

I was sitting here in silence waiting to see how long it would take for someone to notice both. Thank you.

 

[BigDug13]

I thought that was a hardware, not a software update

It was software. The hacked PSP's from day 1 have been able to unlock 333mhz while the others were dropped to something like 222mhz to conserve batteries.

 

[WooHooAlex]

It's almost time.

 

[TetraGenesis]

It really is exciting to think (with a precedent already set!) that if the PS4s cooling proves effective enough, Sony could upclock a few years down the line and give late gen games a boost even above advances in hUMA familiarity.

 

[Rojo]

That's fucking generous for the Wii U

It is thats why its talking about the Wii the WiiU didnt even register. j.k.

 

[randiangamer]

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2665...ch-of-playstation-4/?playlist_id=938507304001

Quote happens at 1:47

Cancel pre-order if old.

Interviewer is pretty cringe-worthy.

cool. then why the fuck are they only bringing 10 units to Argentina on Nov 29? http://store.sony.com.ar/ar/site/ca...3011B&intcmp=ar_banner-novedades-prev-ps4-sep

 

[Portugeezer]

Happened with the PSP so yes.

PSP was originally down clocked. It could always handle the upclock.

But still "yes" for PS4, IF they leave some room. If it's tightly designed to the limits then no upclock would be possible without possibly damaging the system.

 

[Killing_Joke]

His answers make sense. It explains why they stopped the unlimited pre-orders. They know they can probably sell their full stock in the first week. Probably want to have big shipments every week. It's fucking bizarre how much they changed since PS3. Kaz <3

 

[onQ123]

Could clock speeds be raised with a software update in the future? Or is that crazy talk, because I have no idea.

Of course they can just like you can overclock your PC GPU with simple settings

Happened with the PSP so yes.

AFAIK, PSP was initially down-clocked for battery life. They only up-clocked when the higher capacity battery became available.

800MHz is pretty much a downclock for the desktop GCN GPUs you can buy them clocked at 1000MHz

I thought that was a hardware, not a software update

you think SONY would release some new PSP games that only work on the newer PSPs? lol

it was for all the PSP's.

CPU 1-333 MHz (set at 222 MHz by default)

GPU 1-166 MHz (set at 111 MHz by default)

 

[IN&OUT]

cool. then why the fuck are they only bringing 10 units to Argentina on Nov 29? http://store.sony.com.ar/ar/site/ca...3011B&intcmp=ar_banner-novedades-prev-ps4-sep

I don't think Sony-store is the only place to get PS4's . also maybe stock are running out fast.

 

[Prologue]

I hope not , I would like to get a $100-$200 profit on my console.

 

[PaulKersey]

That woman was very ignorant about many things, but I still enjoyed watching this. Definitely excited to get mine.

 

[megabytecr]

I would have agreed partially if you said tablet, mobile, or mini console (PSVTV) were going to pave the roads to the future. But PC gaming... no. Simply no. Expecting any person casual person to put together a gaming rig close to the price of a PS4 from nothing is NOT going to happen. No matter that happens with APUs and stuff. No matter how cheap the games are. Will PC gaming see a rise? Yes. I absolutely think so. But consoles are where the casual audience will go.

Sorry if the wording made it sound like casuals were going to ride the PC. What I meant was that there is more competition, casuals onto tablets/phones and some enthusiasts going for PC/steambox instead of consoles.

The chart as shown is for the three home consoles, broken down in percentages and not units sold. It has nothing to do with competition outside of those 3 machines or whether they sell 100 units or 100 million. The only market changes that would affect that chart is if something happened that made one or two of those companies gain more of those total sales.

Yes you are right with the graph, basically I started saying nothing is set in stone regarding the graph. Then I discussed that the market is changing. A lot of things going on faster than we think, digital goods climbing, PC is growing and the table/phone, which there is a lot of talk about but nothing concrete to prove yet.

I am just hoping that there is not another crash, that would suck big time. Anyway I am way off topic.

 

[B_Boss]

It's almost time.

That is hotdamned beautiful...I love that gif.

 

[neobiz]

Don't forget the Scott Rhode interview.

Having Ratchet just hanging out in a chair was awesome.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

PS4 to be "revealed" in 2 months from now, hand operating things.

Can this video sustain this for 7 whole minutes?

 

[Red Chocobo]

I'm quoting this because it hasn't been quoted enough.

 

[Cwarrior]

I somehow thought, that those kind of charts are dead.

Nintendo get your shit together.

 

[coolasj19]

How long does it usually take for someone to get their hands on a new console and rip it down to it's processors ?

 

[crazygambit]

It was software. The hacked PSP's from day 1 have been able to unlock 333mhz while the others were dropped to something like 222mhz to conserve batteries.

But also the newer models had twice the RAM at 64MB. That said, for a console that's plugged in it makes zero sense not to unlock the full speed day one.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Of course they can just like you can overclock your PC GPU with simple settings


800MHz is pretty much a downclock for the desktop GCN GPUs you can buy them clocked at 1000MHz

Would overclocking the console cause some of them to automatically fail, or not?

I'd really love for them to overclock it...

I wonder how realistic it would be to go from 800 -> 900 or 1000.

If stock desktop GPUs are clocked at 1000, why is this so severely underclocked?

 

[randiangamer]

I don't think Sony-store is the only place to get PS4's . also maybe stock are running out fast.

Sony Store is the only store. And the total shipment is of 10 units.

 

[Himself]

so no one else noticed that the chart says said Wii instead of Wii U?

But the name isn't a problem.

 

[djshauny]

Nintendo get your shit together.

Love that gif.

Great film aswell

 

[artist]

800MHz is pretty much a downclock for the desktop GCN GPUs you can buy them clocked at 1000MHz

No such thing as downclock or overclock, they're designed for a specific TDP.

 

[vpance]

Would overclocking the console cause some of them to automatically fail, or not?

I'd really love for them to overclock it...

I wonder how realistic it would be to go from 800 -> 900 or 1000.

If stock desktop GPUs are clocked at 1000, why is this so severely underclocked?

I think we'll know how viable it is when it's released. If the fans run at an acceptable noise level there could be room to spare in the future for an upclock along with a fan speed increase to compensate.

 

[Ashes]

You would have heard what?

I said test their luck & up clock it since it's having good yields what would you have heard?


they can do this with a Firmware Update if they ever release a game that need it.


1.84TFLOPS has been their target since the 1st leak so it's not like they pushed the final product & seen that 800MHz was the limit before it started over heating or anything.

but seeing that they are the Top Dog right now & their isn't much of a reason to up the clock I don't think it's going to happen.

They could do. I think they would had announced upclocking by now. No sense in keeping that under wraps, since its positive news.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

They could do. I think they would had announced upclocking by now. No sense in keeping that under wraps, since its positive news.

Downclocks/upclocks tend to come at the last minute.

May have played it conservatively until the console gets manufactured to see what impact it would have on yields and production.

Who knows, the Xbox One upclocks came awfully late.

 

[anexanhume]

Based on the thread title, "phenomenal" is the new "fantastic"?

Can edit post but not thread title, hence difference.

 

[reptilescorpio]

cool. then why the fuck are they only bringing 10 units to Argentina on Nov 29? http://store.sony.com.ar/ar/site/ca...3011B&intcmp=ar_banner-novedades-prev-ps4-sep

Do they only have 10 Nav controllers too? Seems more like an odd way to display stock on their website. Like they have no way to say anything higher than 10.

 

[bigboss370]

It's almost time.

that is some futuristic shit right there o_o

 

[onQ123]

They could do. I think they would had announced upclocking by now. No sense in keeping that under wraps, since its positive news.

I didn't say that they have up clocked the GPU I said they should try their luck & clock it to 900MHz.

there isn't anything for them to be keeping under wraps, I was just saying that since their yields are so good with the GPU clocked at 800MHz that they should try their luck with 900MHz.

Push It To The Limit!

 

[SwiftDeath]

Personally I think a cpu upclock is more likely at this point

They may have said 1.6 before but I'm not entirely convinced it will stay that way

 

[FlyStarJay]

i liked the interview and the interviewer, she was not a dick nor an ass.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

The PS4 has such a power advantage that I see very little to gain from a small upclock.