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[Recall]

I am looking forward to playing the games before getting all worked up over version differences.

 

[Derrick01]

It's not like this article inspires great confidence at a Ps4 version above 720p

True but you don't have to be a tech wizard to understand things like this will be common after we leave the cross gen phase of the new generation and devs will start cranking these machines up to full power.

 

[Bunta]

"False" was in reply to @FuckeChoppe, his response was the link to the jackfrags tweet as a clarification.

That's also how I read it.

 

[abadguy]

Just wait until we're out of the cross gen period and into full blown next gen 2 years from now. It's going to be ugly and we're going to see a lot more of this on Xbox. I hope their fans are prepared for a really long generation.

I expect the games will look just fine on both consoles this gen but yeah. Warriors gonna warrior.

 

[Ashes]

720p is the perfect balance between 480p and 1080p.

*nods*

 

[Garrett 2U]

True but you don't have to be a tech wizard to understand things like this will be common after we leave the cross gen phase of the new generation and devs will start cranking these machines up to full power.

So devs can crank full power out of the PS4, but not the Xbone?

"False" was in reply to @FuckeChoppe, his response was the link to the jackfrags tweet as a clarification.

That's how I understood it too

 

[DoctorZ]

I am looking forward to playing the games before getting all worked up over version differences.

Sure, but when it comes time to purchase wouldn't you want to know which version to buy and play?

 

[dino1980]

720p... sigh, this is not acceptable. MS make a "32X" for the Xbox1.

 

[rudieboy77]

And this is why I'm going to use my PC and wait at least a year to buy a console, if at all.
The only reason I was buying a PS4 was for this game and 64 player servers. I remember people here saying this (720p) wasn't true, but here we are.

 

[abadguy]

So devs can crank full power out of the PS4, but not the Xbone?

Teh XBONEZ IZ WEEEEK, YO!

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

So devs can crank full power out of the PS4, but not the Xbone?

No, but the PS4 does have more power to be cranked out of.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

So now 720p @ 60fps is poor?

I expect lots of people will be disappointed with this generation.

 

[Durante]

This. The Frorstbite tech director says that what @FuckeChoppe said (IE bad machine or lazy devs) is false, retweeting what @JackFrags said as confirmation, because earlier JackFrags said it was running at 720p (prompting @FuckeChoppe's response), and then corrected himself.

If I read it correctly (I hate Twitter), then he only corrected it regarding PS4 (which is "higher than 720p"), not XB1.

So now 720p @ 60fps is poor?

I expect lots of people will be disappointed with this generation.

No, that was poor 6 years ago

 

[IN&OUT]

So devs can crank full power out of the PS4, but not the Xbone?

No, PS4 is more powerful than X1 period

Are you saying that optimized X1 = PS4, because that's a funny statement.

 

[Plywood]

Hahaha.

 

[nib95]

There isn't necessarily a 1:1 correlation between 'power' (whatever nebulous metric that even is) and pixel fillrate.


Not that I'm implying it will be 1080p, but that right there is a gross oversimplification.

That is correct, based on the PS4s GPU specs, the performance ceiling is going to be higher. Realistically 1080p should be less of an issue comparative to 900p on the PS4. I know this is not the best comparison, but compare BF3 max settings at 900p and 1080p on the 7770 (XO) and then the same with the 7850 (PS4), the former is going to have a larger performance disparity between the two resolutions.

 

[Chobel]

So devs can crank full power out of the PS4, but not the Xbone?

If devs can crank full power out of the PS4, Xbox One will be always 30-40% less powerful.

 

[Kaako]

So is this "false" or not? Seems to be getting mixed messages here. Wouldn't really surprise me if this turns out to be the case though, especially going further into next gen.
Either way, I'll be playing it on PC so is all gravy.

 

[Future PhaZe]

So now 720p @ 60fps is poor?

I expect lots of people will be disappointed with this generation.

I'm not sure how anyone can argue that 720p should be acceptable this gen

30 or 60 frames, these things are debatable, but 720 is just unacceptable

 

[Can Crusher]

Sounds like it's 720p on both going by that Dice guy twitter. Not buying BF4 then, no reason for the PS4 version to run at 720p so fuck that.

 

[ouge123]

http://www.gamespark.jp/article/2013/09/29/43766.html

ブースにてDICEのプロダクトQA担当者に確認したところ、Xbox OneとPS4バージョン製品版の解像度およびフレームレートは同一を目指しているということでした。それにあわせて記事の内容を修正いたしました。最終的な仕様はEA/DICEから正式に情報公開されるまで不明です。

Google translate：

After a review of the product QA personnel of DICE booth , it was that the frame rate and resolution of the PS4 version product version and Xbox One that is aimed at the same . We modify the contents of the article to match. The final specification is unknown until it is officially published information from EA / DICE.

 

[TheGhosts]

Awesome!!!

 

[thuway]

So now 720p @ 60fps is poor?

I expect lots of people will be disappointed with this generation.

Serious question, have you seen Shadow Fall? Killzone Shadow Fall murks this game in terms of visual flair, and does so by running at 1080p and 60 FPS. This is all blood on DICE's hands.

 

[twobear]

PS4 at 4K then.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

At the bottom of the GameSpark article there is an update. Now, I don't speak Japanese, so this is Google Translate, but:

※ UPDATE (2013/9/30 0:10): After a review of the product QA personnel of DICE booth, it was that the frame rate and resolution of the PS4 version product version and Xbox One that is aimed at the same. We modify the contents of the article to match. The final specification is unknown until it is officially published information from EA / DICE.

 

[Ashes]

No, that was poor 6 years ago

;-)

 

[jem0208]

So is this "false" or not? Seems to be getting mixed messages here. Wouldn't really surprise me if this turns out to be the case though, especially going further into next gen.
Either way, I'll be playing it on PC so is all gravy.

It's unconfirmed.


Edit: Looks like it's false:

After a review of the product QA personnel of DICE booth , it was that the frame rate and resolution of the PS4 version product version and Xbox One that is aimed at the same . We modify the contents of the article to match. The final specification is unknown until it is officially published information from EA / DICE.

 

[thuway]

http://www.gamespark.jp/article/2013/09/29/43766.html

ブースにてDICEのプロダクトQA担当者に確認したところ、Xbox OneとPS4バージョン製品版の解像度およびフレームレートは同一を目指しているということでした。それにあわせて記事の内容を修正いたしました。最終的な仕様はEA/DICEから正式に情報公開されるまで不明です。

Google translate：

After a review of the product QA personnel of DICE booth , it was that the frame rate and resolution of the PS4 version product version and Xbox One that is aimed at the same . We modify the contents of the article to match. The final specification is unknown until it is officially published information from EA / DICE.

Yeap fuck you DICE. It's Killzone for me.

 

[Garrett 2U]

No, PS4 is more powerful than X1 period

Are you saying that optimized X1 = PS4, because that's a funny statement.

No of course I'm not.

 

[Kandrick]

"EA Confirms"

That said, since I’ve learned to take what representatives on show floors say with a bit of a grain of salt, I sent a mail to our contacts at EA asking for further confirmation, and I’ll keep you posted if I receive anything noteworthy.

"It's confirmed! But uh, we need some more confirmation, because we just took some random japanese article as 100% legit, so who knows!"

Dualshockers, truly the top of the cream when it comes to games journalism.

 

[ekim]

http://www.gamespark.jp/article/2013/09/29/43766.html

ブースにてDICEのプロダクトQA担当者に確認したところ、Xbox OneとPS4バージョン製品版の解像度およびフレームレートは同一を目指しているということでした。それにあわせて記事の内容を修正いたしました。最終的な仕様はEA/DICEから正式に情報公開されるまで不明です。

Google translate：

After a review of the product QA personnel of DICE booth , it was that the frame rate and resolution of the PS4 version product version and Xbox One that is aimed at the same . We modify the contents of the article to match. The final specification is unknown until it is officially published information from EA / DICE.

Booth representatives should stop claiming things they don't know about. Happy for the 900p on PS4. I hope they make it the same on X1.

 

[shinra-bansho]

I wouldn't take this as confirmation.

Just for a refresher, regarding repi's tweet, this was what led to a thread on here about the PS4 version being 720p:

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/370847476754157568

Someone tweeted repi the thread and he replied with "false" and linked to the new tweet that clarified that the PS4 version is currently above 720p:

Doesn't say anything about the XB1 version, good or bad.

 

[sp3000]

Serious question, have you seen Shadow Fall? Killzone Shadow Fall murks this game in terms of visual flair, and does so by running at 1080p and 60 FPS. This is all blood on DICE's hands.

Let's compare a game that has 64 players and destruction and vehicles and gigantic maps to one that has none of these.

Serious question, are you a complete idiot

 

[keit4]

Dualshockers... looks legit to me.

 

[TheRealTalker]

http://www.gamespark.jp/article/2013/09/29/43766.html

ブースにてDICEのプロダクトQA担当者に確認したところ、Xbox OneとPS4バージョン製品版の解像度およびフレームレートは同一を目指しているということでした。それにあわせて記事の内容を修正いたしました。最終的な仕様はEA/DICEから正式に情報公開されるまで不明です。

Google translate：

After a review of the product QA personnel of DICE booth , it was that the frame rate and resolution of the PS4 version product version and Xbox One that is aimed at the same . We modify the contents of the article to match. The final specification is unknown until it is officially published information from EA / DICE.

At the bottom of the GameSpark article there is an update. Now, I don't speak Japanese, so this is Google Translate, but:

so both version will be around 720p...

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Serious question, have you seen Shadow Fall? Killzone Shadow Fall murks this game in terms of visual flair, and does so by running at 1080p and 60 FPS. This is all blood on DICE's hands.

I think BF4 is visually more impressive, and the resolution has nothing to do with it.

 

[pixlexic]

At the bottom of the GameSpark article there is an update. Now, I don't speak Japanese, so this is Google Translate, but:

yeah.. dualshockers is just a fanboy "edit and repost" site. I thought we all knew this now?

 

[Skeff]

Serious question, have you seen Shadow Fall? Killzone Shadow Fall murks this game in terms of visual flair, and does so by running at 1080p and 60 FPS. This is all blood on DICE's hands.

If BF4 is 720p on ps4, DICE fucked up, no other way of putting it.

 

[Can Crusher]

DICE still making games for HD ready TVs. Frostbite 3 my ass.

I think BF4 is visually more impressive, and the resolution has nothing to do with it.

Either you're showing your comedian side, or you're saying that BF4 maxed on a high end PC looks more impressive than KZ. You can't honestly believe the BF4 footage we've seen from Xbox One and PS4 looks better, you just can't.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

yeah.. dualshockers is just a fanboy "edit and repost" site. I thought we all knew this now?

I never heard of the site but suddenly there seems to be lots of articles coming from them. Is it like an N4G thing?

 

[GameAddict411]

same reason the ps4 isn't killing the game like it should.

Its based on a engine meant for 3.2 ghz cpus. Doesn't matter how powerful the gpu is is the engine isn't made to use it.

Wrong! resolution is entirely GPU dependent and frostbite can advantage of several CPU cores with great performance so wrong again. the jaguar CPU cores in these consoles are not going to be a problem at all if optimized right.

 

[Kandrick]

http://www.gamespark.jp/article/2013/09/29/43766.html

ブースにてDICEのプロダクトQA担当者に確認したところ、Xbox OneとPS4バージョン製品版の解像度およびフレームレートは同一を目指しているということでした。それにあわせて記事の内容を修正いたしました。最終的な仕様はEA/DICEから正式に情報公開されるまで不明です。

Google translate：

After a review of the product QA personnel of DICE booth , it was that the frame rate and resolution of the PS4 version product version and Xbox One that is aimed at the same . We modify the contents of the article to match. The final specification is unknown until it is officially published information from EA / DICE.

So the original article was updated uh. Yeah, "confirms" my ass.

 

[velociraptor]

1080p

900p

720p

 

[GashPrex]

Personally I think GAF should ban articles based on low level or game show "representatives" from X company

 

[Violater]

720p is the perfect balance between 480p and 1080p.

zach galifianakis nod.gif

 

[shinnn]

Really.. using a site called dualshocker to read news about Xbox? rofl.

 

[Replicant]

Damn you. I want to use this GIF too. Oh well, double the fun.

 

[Kaako]

Just read the update on that article. Seems they are be aiming for resolution and framerate parity which is expected but pretty damn shitty for PS4 owners if that's the case. Unless they manage to hit that 1080P 60fps on both.

 

[Kandrick]

Personally I think GAF should ban articles based on low level or game show "representatives" from X company

"I heard from a rep" is the new " tales from my ass"!

 

[nib95]

BF4 is going to look lacking on the PS4 if it ships at 720p, especially with most games running at 1080p. Wonder how it'll compare with COD? Whilst it'll obviously have more graphical flair, I wonder if CODs resolution advantage will actually make it appear more detailed in the eyes of most gamers?