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Let's discuss the ACTUAL best comic-book film.

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PantherLotus

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jadedm17 said:
I love this discussion for two special reason :
-GAF <3 TMNT
-The love people have for random to forgettable movies (to me) as "The Best (anything)".

No, really, to each their own, its awesome.
Really I just need to watch the Blade trilogy again, I loved those movies when I first saw them.
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There's a moment in Blade that goes something like this:

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and I will never ever forget it ever.
 
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Buddha Beam

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Whoa, whoa, whoooooaa... I don't see anyone talking about Hancock in here. That's a problem, GAF.

Count me as another vote for TMNT, actually
 
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Scullibundo said:
I think where this has the edge on Watchmen is that Snyder's film was slavish to the source material to a fault. I was happy that Snyder kept so many of the important scenes from the comic that could have been easily lost, but he also included stuff that felt rather unnecessary in an adaptation. Also, the one thing he didn't keep was the one thing that was sorely lacking in the film - the consequences of Veidt's action - which were explicitly witnessed in Moore's comic and brushed over by a crater in the film. Out of all the needless devotion to the source material and the adult content, that was where Snyder pussed out. That's something that V never did.
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Yeah, thats why id rank it under V, the ending missing the horror as well as the final scene between Dr. Manhattan and Ozy as it was in the book are huge omissions.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Mr. F said:
That, and I still feel like the film's version of the ending doesn't make sense for the intent of the graphic novel's.
Manhattan was America's weapon, even if it backfired I think the rest of the world would be holding the US accountable for the international damage. The novel's version being an exterior threat was key.
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I think you can plausibly reason that away, given that New York was supposedly decimated by Manhattan.
 
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b&jy77VjiKn$#F

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This is a Watchmen thread? Yay!

Agree that Snyder (or who ever wrote the script) did drop balls in some parts of the movie. Other than that, the movie is still damn good. Best looking Snyder film as well
(alongside with Sucker Punch).
 
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JdFoX187

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Mr. F said:
That, and I still feel like the film's version of the ending doesn't make sense for the intent of the graphic novel's.
Manhattan was America's weapon, even if it backfired I think the rest of the world would be holding the US accountable for the international damage. The novel's version being an exterior threat was key.
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I've seen this argument proposed a lot, and I don't buy it. Manhattan worked with the Americans, but he was never America's weapon. He was pretty much the nuclear deterrent for both sides, throughout the whole movie. Veidt's plan playing out as it did, while still inferior to the graphic novel, doesn't diminish the impact or hinder the ending. Leaving out Veidt asking Manhattan if he did the right thing -- perhaps the most crucial line in the whole damn graphic novel -- was more harmful than the omission of an alien squid.
 
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inm8num2

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These discussions beg for differentiation between superhero comics and non-superhero comics.

Best superhero comic movies: Nolan Bat Trilogy (yea, that's right), X2, Spider-Man 2, Batman Returns

Best non-superhero comic movies: The Crow, A History of Violence, Road to Perdition, V for Vendetta
 
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Mr. F

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Scullibundo said:
I think you can plausibly reason that away, given that New York was supposedly decimated by Manhattan.
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I know I know, I just find it harder to reason that away in the context of international tensions being so high.

JdFoX187 said:
I've seen this argument proposed a lot, and I don't buy it. Manhattan worked with the Americans, but he was never America's weapon. He was pretty much the nuclear deterrent for both sides, throughout the whole movie. Veidt's plan playing out as it did, while still inferior to the graphic novel, doesn't diminish the impact or hinder the ending. Leaving out Veidt asking Manhattan if he did the right thing -- perhaps the most crucial line in the whole damn graphic novel -- was more harmful than the omission of an alien squid.
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Working pretty much exclusively with them through Vietnam and beyond, I don't think it's a stretch to say he was for all intents and purposes their weapon. Also you're right, I completely forgot about that omission. Seems kind of crazy given the faithfulness to the rest of the novel.

This might be off topic, but is the complete Director's cut or whatever worth the watch? It sounded kind of interesting having the animated parts cut in along with the deleted scenes but the runtime always made me think it was a bit excessive.
 
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Killa Sasa

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Spider-Man 2? Perfect melodrama. Tone was great and hit exactly what they were going for, just a cohesive movie in all aspects to me.

More mad at Spider-Man 3 for pissing away potential than actual shittiness.

Edit: Ah, comic-book, not necessarily super-hero. Don't know too many tbh.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Persepolis

American Splendor

Ghost World


In that order.

History of Violence gets an honorable mention (deviates a lot from the book, for the better), and Road to Perdition was disappointing.

V for Vendetta has a lovely adaptation of the prison sequence, but the rest of the movie is hot and miss and a poor adaptation of a good (but not great) book.

I can't think of any superhero stuff that comes close, and I love superheroes.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Followup on reading thread:

Dredd is pretty great, still not in my top 5.

Spider-Man 2, and Dark Knight, are the best of the Superheroes. Donner Superman II has aged, but held that crown a long time.
 
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3N16MA

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Maybe he thought this thread was not incredible? He can't seriously think The Incredibles was based on an actual comic.
 
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Darklord

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V for Vendetta is awful, one of the worst comic-book movies....one of the worst movies full stop. It was tedious to sit through it at the cinema, I was so close to leaving. I'd rather watch Spider-Man 3.
 
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Pau

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I liked V for Vendetta. Hugh Weaving was absolutely fabulous as V. I don't mind most of the changes to some of the characters like of Evey not being a prostitute and being older, but I do think the movie should have had ended with
her taking the V mantle at the end.
 
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one of the best two minutes in a movie ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACUpr5GvVsE

Evey: Who are you?
V. : Who? Who is but the form following the function of what and what I am is a man in a mask.
Evey: Well I can see that.
V. : Of course you can, I’m not questioning your powers of observation, I’m merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
Evey: Oh, right.
V. : But on this most auspicious of nights, permit me then, in lieu of the more commonplace soubriquet, to suggest the character of this dramatis persona. Voila! In view humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the “vox populi” now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin, van guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.
Verily this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.
Evey: Are you like a crazy person?
V. : I’m quite sure they will say so.

Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I know of no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot…
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Discotheque

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i think snyder will finally nail the fight choreography that batman should be known for but aside from that it won't even be the best comic book film of the year

(edgar wright da gawd coming to snatch wigs)
 
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