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[Liberty4all]

I still can't get a handle on where my PC stands versus the PS4's specs. Last time I bought a PC it was a custom build based almost entirely on GAF's build a PC thread.

I5 2500k 8 gigs ram, GTX 560TI

I think I bought it a year and a half ago (maybe it was 2 and a half years). Around when the last Battlefield came out.

At the time I think it would have been considered a decent PC .... how does it stack up versus the PS4's specs? I'm asking more or less as there are some games I'm not sure which platform I'll get the better experience.

 

[RE_Player]

Consoles should never be compared to PCs directly. It's a closed system.

 

[Cave Johnson]

Oh, what a coincidence. I wanted to ask the exact same question and... damn we both have the same EXACT specs!

 

[Haunted]

CODING TO THE METAL BROSKI

Oh, what a coincidence. I wanted to ask the exact same question and... damn we both have the same EXACT specs!

It's a popular configuration, they're my exact specs as well. i5 2500, 8GB ram, GTX560ti

 

[hemtae]

I would say that a PS4 is probably better, but you can upgrade to better than a PS4 for less than a PS4.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

I have an i7, 8Gb ram, and a radeon 7650 2Gb.

PS4 will outperform my PC. It will not outperform most of the PC's owned on Gaf.

Not sure if Xbone will be better than my PC.

 

[fluffydelusions]

I think the 560ti is a bit weaker GPU than in the PS4 but your CPU is much better

 

[la flama blanca]

I would say that a PS4 is probably better, but you can upgrade to better than a PS4 for less than a PS4.

its too bad BF4 on my PC looks ridiculously better than the PS4 version.

 

[Liberty4all]

Consoles should never be compared to PCs directly. It's a closed system.

Well when it comes to deciding where to buy multi platform titles I'd like to at least have a ballpark idea if my current PC is equal to (or surpasses) the experience I'll get on the PS4 ....

Like I said, I bought my custom built PC based entirely on GAF advice ... I have no idea if my PC is still considered "good" (although I suspect it's still decent enough) and I do not know if the PS4 will be able to provide better higher graphic settings than my current PC.

 

[gngf123]

Slightly better but not by much.

That said, direct comparisons are damn pointless. Having a single target platform allows for far better optimisation, you will eventually see games running on all next-gen consoles that would beat their equivalently specced PC companions.

 

[jmdajr]

It's better than mine and I'm not upgrading my PC any time soon. And if I do, it won't be for games.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

its too bad BF4 on my PC looks ridiculously better than the PS4 version.

I'm running BF4 on my PC at 1080p on Ultra (i7, 4GB GTX 770, 24GB of RAM), and I still dunno that I would call it "ridiculously better" than the PS4 version based on the video I've seen. Maybe if you're running at 1440p or 4K it would be a huge leap, but the PS4 does a pretty good job from what we've seen.

 

[HawksWinStanley]

How much would it cost to build a PC from the ground up (including peripherals) to perform the same as a PS4?

 

[LCGeek]

Slightly better but not by much.

That said, direct comparisons are damn pointless. Having a single target platform allows for far better optimisation, you will eventually see games running on all next-gen consoles that would beat their equivalently specced PC companions.

This argument never gets old. No one buys a pc at equal spec to console they buy it for the games they want to play. There is also no way to talk about spec comparison considering some of the features PS4 and Xb1 have are no where to be found on the pc platform currently.

 

[Bluekaveli]

The graphics card is shit ton better than mine considering it's 3 years old but everything else is equal. I'll get that 400 buck AMD card next year for 250 and call it another 3-4 years before I upgrade again lol. My 6 core phenom should last for a while anyhow.

 

[USC-fan]

Ps4 is more powerful than your pc.

You cpu will be out dated soon since a lot of games are moving to 8 threads. Your gpu is already out dated.

 

[Rizific]

Well when it comes to deciding where to buy multi platform titles I'd like to at least have a ballpark idea if my current PC is equal to (or surpasses) the experience I'll get on the PS4 ....

Like I said, I bought my custom built PC based entirely on GAF advice ... I have no idea if my PC is still considered "good" (although I suspect it's still decent enough) and I do not know if the PS4 will be able to provide better higher graphic settings than my current PC.

well then how about this? instead of dropping the money on a ps4, put 3/4 of that money (or even 1/2) towards a new gpu and have no doubt in your mind that your pc will provide better graphics than a ps4 for the next few years.

 

[Massa]

How much would it cost to build a PC from the ground up (including peripherals) to perform the same as a PS4?

About $800 to be equal or better in most games.

 

[Prince Vultan]

How much would it cost to build a PC from the ground up (including peripherals) to perform the same as a PS4?

A fuckload more than $399 that's for sure.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

Sony has made mention to customizations they have made to the GPU but not the CPU. I'd like to hear more on that as I doubt it is pure stock even if it is basically the same CPU that MS uses. I'm sure each company has tweaked it a bit.

 

[nbthedude]

How much would it cost to build a PC from the ground up (including peripherals) to perform the same as a PS4?

If you live near a Microcenter and are in the U.S. probably around $700-$800. But keep in mind that would be a system that you could actually upgrade in the future and build on.

I think this is also not a fair direct comparison though because on PC you don't pay for online play, that adds an extra $50 a year hidden cost for consoles and games are generally cheaper.

 

[Monty Mole]

You generally want twice the power in your PC as a particular console, to run the game at an equal performance. Although with things like SteamOS and Mantle, you may find that gap closes significantly.

 

[belmonkey]

You cannot compare PCs to boxes of magic and dreams.

 

[1st Course]

Your CPU is fine but the GPU is weaker.

If you're in no hurry I would recommenced that you wait for Maxwell/Pirate islands instead of upgrading now, by that a time you should be able to snap a 780/290 level GPU for about $250/$300.

 

[Crispy75]

The PS4 may be made of more-or-less commodity parts, but they are put together in a custom way that is impossible to replicate with current PC technology. Comparisons based on raw part stats are meaningless.

 

[AstroNut325]

About $800 to be equal or better in most games.

This. A PC with a i7 CPU and a 7970+ class GPU should keep pace with the PS4. To beat it outright I think you'll have to step up to the latest R290 class GPUs.

 

[Perkel]

too early to tell.

 

[Duxxy3]

Your system will be ahead for a year, maybe two, but as developers get better with the closed system your hardware will start to fall behind.

 

[DeadlyVirus]

The consoles OS are optimized to be a game machine.
PCs are not.

 

[shandy706]

I'm running BF4 on my PC at 1080p on Ultra (i7, 4GB GTX 770, 24GB of RAM), and I still dunno that I would call it "ridiculously better" than the PS4 version based on the video I've seen. Maybe if you're running at 1440p or 4K it would be a huge leap, but the PS4 does a pretty good job from what we've seen.

People need to quit pointing to resolution as the difference maker. There are a lot more variables, and impressive ones at that, that can be run on a mid to high end PC that would cripple the next-gen consoles.

Having said that, the consoles are capable of doing amazing things when something is built and optimized specifically for them.

 

[FullMetalx117]

A fuckload more than $399 that's for sure.

You can probably build a pc that will outperform a PS4 for $600-700. In the long term though, PC will turn out to be cheaper than PS4.

 

[Durante]

Your CPU will easily outperform the PS4's. The PS4's GPU outperforms your GPU.

 

[Liberty4all]

well then how about this? instead of dropping the money on a ps4, put 3/4 of that money (or even 1/2) towards a new gpu and have no doubt in your mind that your pc will provide better graphics than a ps4 for the next few years.

I actually did think about doing that.

Truth though, I'm a big Killzone fan, there are exclusives I'm going to want on the PS4. Since I'll have both my current PC (in it's existing configuration) and a PS4 I was curious at launch which platform I should be buying my multiplats on.

Specifically thinking about Battlefield. I went PC last gen, but I'm thinking it may run better on the PS4 compared to my PC.

 

[dragonelite]

You generally want twice the power in your PC as a particular console, to run the game at an equal performance. Although with things like SteamOS and Mantle, you may find that gap closes significantly.

That is only for the cpu side and next gen cpu are weak.
What i dont get why do people want to build a pc that performs the same as console that concept sounds so goddam stupid.

 

[Smokey]

Ps4 is more powerful than your pc.

You cpu will be out dated soon since a lot of games are moving to 8 threads. Your gpu is already out dated.

Yeah no. That CPU laughs at the POS in the next gen consoles. He's GPU is all that needs to be updated.

 

[artist]

PS4 approximation is in right about middle of the pack, Xbone somewhere towards the bottom. Your GPU right between the two, will age quickly.

 

[FullMetalx117]

Ps4 is more powerful than your pc.

You cpu will be out dated soon since a lot of games are moving to 8 threads. Your gpu is already out dated.

not really. pretty sure 1-2 cores of the 2500k can handily beat all 8 cores of the ps4/xbox one cpu.

 

[sestrugen]

They can't be compared, not directly at least.

 

[fluffydelusions]

This. A PC with a i7 CPU and a 7970+ class GPU should keep pace with the PS4. To beat it outright I think you'll have to step up to the latest R290 class GPUs.

Huh. I have an i7/280x and I can run BF4 ultra at 60+ fps no problems. PS4 can't hit that.

 

[nbthedude]

You generally want twice the power in your PC as a particular console, to run the game at an equal performance. Although with things like SteamOS and Mantle, you may find that gap closes significantly.

But in general 3x's as many people have twice the amount of power already. Programmers can optimize roughly 1.5x's the Xbox architecture on a PC 80% of the time on a PC that is about 120% of the power.

Making up numbers is fun.

 

[Reallink]

Your PC should run BF4 at 1080p/60 with settings matching or exceeding the PS4 (900p). The PS4 version is not running Ultra settings. It should also run Ghosts 2 better if the PS4 frame rate problems are to be believed.

 

[shandy706]

PS4 approximation is in right about middle of the pack, Xbone somewhere towards the bottom. Your GPU right between the two, will age quickly.

The PS4 version isn't running at all Ultra with an i7 processor at 1080p.

That's not really something you can use for a comparison.

 

[nbthedude]

Huh. I have an i7/280x and I can run BF4 ultra at 60+ fps no problems. PS4 can't hit that.

Yeah he's wrong if the launch performance is anything to go by. A 7950/760 or better will get about the same/slightly better performance as consoles.

The problem is nobody wants to play on PC at 720p or 900p or with AA set to medium the way a lot of these consoles do. If they did, they would get amazing framerates and be able to crank the features.

 

[muu]

That is only for the cpu side and next gen cpu are weak.
What i dont get why do people want to build a pc that performs the same as console that concept sounds so goddam stupid.

PCs don't just play games...?

Didn't upgrade my PC for ~4 years, it served well as a media server and home base for the ipad. Also spreadsheets and other work.

It'd be silly to get a gaming PC to truly just play games, but come on, no one does that.

 

[sirap]

PS4 runs CODG better than my rig that's for sure.

 

[Mt Heart Attack]

Wait let me understand your comparisons from my tech-ignorant perspective, we're talking purely about level of specs here, rather than actual game performance?

Because, for instance, there's no pc in the world that can output graphics of the quality of TLOU with only 512 MB of RAM memory.

 

[ghst]

PS4 approximation is in right about middle of the pack, Xbone somewhere towards the bottom. Your GPU right between the two, will age quickly.

this is from the alpha. totally unrepresentative.

this is how release version runs on a £175 video card and a four year old mid-range CPU:

 

[Alej]

So, PS4 has an APU. What difference (benefits?) it makes in comparison with "samey" discrete parts in a PC?

We know PS4's RAM architecture is kind-of uncommon. But what's troubling me is: how common APUs are in PCs? What about that kind of PS4's APU in particular?

Because if it's very different, how can we compare them?

 

[McLovin]

You can probably build a pc that will outperform a PS4 for $600-700. In the long term though, PC will turn out to be cheaper than PS4.

Only for a limited time. PS4 games will get better and better on the same hardware. Eventually you have to upgrade, unless you don't mind turning stuff off or lowering the resolution.

 

[Rising_Hei]

These comparisions are bullshit because consoles use their hardware much better than PCs... and it improves greatly as years passes