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CVG: "Nintendo was dead to us very quickly" after the Wii U, says EA source
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NintendoGal
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TheCowboyPoet
Member
I don't really have a problem with anything that "EA Source" said. Maybe he was a little blunt, but ever since the Pokemon craze, Nintendo has been too focused on making things kid-friendly.
What makes Smash less for kids than Pikmin, W101, Mario, Zelda etc?
The Wonderful 101 > Anything EA releases.
Mass Effect 3 was sent to die. They did the trilogy games for the PS3 and XBox 360 which is what they should have released on the Wii U. Releasing a stupid prodct and shocked when it doesn't sell!
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Basically, this. Oh, and on top of all that, just to make sure it wouldn't sell, they announced the Wii U version wouldn't be getting the DLC either.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I guess but they actually tried and gave the Wii U a shot.
EvilKatarn
Member
Whoever makes a good Berserk game earns my crust. Whatever that means.
OKAY
I think everyone who made those is shut down now.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Agreed. The market and I are moving in opposite directions. It hurts.
Captain Smoker
Member
- Release late ports
- Don't sell at launch
- Don't support to build a base anyway
= Nintendo is for kids
EA is the worst company in this business, not to mention the other nonsense from these quotes.
- Don't sell at launch
- Don't support to build a base anyway
= Nintendo is for kids
EA is the worst company in this business, not to mention the other nonsense from these quotes.
Lord of Castamere
Member
OKAY
YOU TAKE THAT BACK OR FISTYCUFFS WILL ENSUE!!!!!
This probably falls under the category of 'fairly self-evident' in terms of EA not bothering with the Wii U. Yes, the few games they did offer were all full priced quickie ports of games released an age ago, but it's not like Nintendo went to any effort to create a space for any third party games to succeed. Nintendo's to blame first and foremost here.
MisterHero
Super Member
EA running shit '90s style.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Well only 2 exist. One on Dreamcast and one on PS2.(Japan only)
I'm not saying they are good or great but they are BERSERK games. The PS2 one seemed great though.
Ignoring the sad thing the guy at EA said. I do think Nintendo needs to do a better job building out the catalog to entice third parties to participate. If Nintendo uses their muscle to hit the points that they are missing, I think they'd see more support. Building the audience is up to Nintendo.
Frankly i don't know what to think, usually pr are full of bullshits to keep everyone quiet and happy, this one is too heavy to be a bullshit, i guess that this is what they really think.
While Nintendo games are good and suited for adults too you can't deny that Nintendo games(and Nintendo's image and policies in general) are aimed to children(well Metroid and something else apart i guess).
While Nintendo games are good and suited for adults too you can't deny that Nintendo games(and Nintendo's image and policies in general) are aimed to children(well Metroid and something else apart i guess).
They absolutely don't, the sales of the Wii U are atrocious and are reason enough to not support it.
That anonymous sources keep parroting out the lie about a year late port of Mass Effect 3 being a "solid effort" says a lot about how deluded that company is.
nrvalleytime
Member
It doesn't have to be BF4 - there are a number of sports titles that could be on the system. They would look just fine - using the gamepad would be great there.
And BF4 was a rushed job - I don't think the PS4 and Xbone had as much to do with the current problems as EA did with their shoddy attempts to sell a poor product.
ME3 was a fine effort, but they released it alongside that Trilogy pack which not only a far better value but also with ME3 they failed to introduce the average Nintendo fan to the franchise.
Mass Effect sold best on Xbox because they actually started on that platform and introduced the universe to that audience, then they made a cheap cartoon to introduce the PlayStation fans to Mass Effect 2. And now they just dumped Mass Effect 3, the last part of the trilogy on Nintendo fans, while releasing Trilogy for the already existing audience.
Like yeah, sure, the Wii U is a mess and all, but EA was not spotless here. They fucked up on their own here
Mass Effect sold best on Xbox because they actually started on that platform and introduced the universe to that audience, then they made a cheap cartoon to introduce the PlayStation fans to Mass Effect 2. And now they just dumped Mass Effect 3, the last part of the trilogy on Nintendo fans, while releasing Trilogy for the already existing audience.
Like yeah, sure, the Wii U is a mess and all, but EA was not spotless here. They fucked up on their own here
Prevolition
Member
Now can we agree that EA is the one being stubborn and irrational here?
metikulous
Banned
I would kill for a new, and localized, Berserk game. Even if I have to buy a Wii U to play it =(.
Is it good? I admit I wasn't so sure but I saw it in the kids' section of ea's website
EA is practically ded to me so I really won't care if they don't show up on Nintendo platforms anymore. Heck, I won't be supporting them on Sony platforms either
Modern day Maxis ain't the true Maxis, and they are in the proccess of killing Criterion.
All I care about from them at this point is FIFA, but I can get my soccer fix from Konami. (but those fools won't even port over PES to the Vita )
Modern day Maxis ain't the true Maxis, and they are in the proccess of killing Criterion.
All I care about from them at this point is FIFA, but I can get my soccer fix from Konami. (but those fools won't even port over PES to the Vita
)evilromero
Member
EA also decided not to support the Dreamcast. Just saying.
Not that Nintendo doesn't deserve any of the flak for their poor relationship with 3rd parties in the first place but I'm sure EA could've gone about saying this in a less inflammatory manner. So burn the bridges, burn them all EA.
Nintendo's sure good looking.damn what a statement.
Nintendo in the white, EA in the red lol.
Most of their stuff is shovelware, but I don't think Skylanders is? I believe Activision even considers it one of their core franchises next to Call of Duty. But I never played one of those games, so I wouldn't know.This is a polite way of rephrasing my post.
Triggerhappytel
Member
It's always stupid when a last ditch effort is based on circumstances where the product is never going to be a big seller. Mass Effect 3 coming out 8 months later than other consoles at full price at the same time and price as the Mass Effect Trilogy was a fucking joke. No surprise it sold badly! Similar to Zipper Interactive and Sony Liverpool's last chance being PS Vita releases; they were never going to be big sellers under those conditions.
dampflokfreund
Banned
I would say it's aimed at everyone and too, some entries of some franchises are aimed more (!) on adults than children and reverse! Example: Zelda OoT, MM and TP are aimed more at adults than kids and so does Metroid, while Kirby is aimed more on children than adults.
shinobi602
Member
To be honest, I really don't think releasing the trilogy as a package at launch would've made a massive impact. The audience just wasn't, and still isn't there.
NintendoGal
Member
Wasn't referring to that, I was talking about all the movie tie-ins and games of that nature.
I don't at all agree that the Wii U is a platform focused on IPs primarily popular amongst kids. Kids these days seem far more interested in Angry Birds, Minecraft and other such IPs than any Nintendo IP. Conversely, I think Nintendo's IPs still hold a great deal of appeal for older gamers who grew up playing Nintendo games, certainly those are the people who will have gone out and bought a Wii U at or soon after launch. That's not to say that the games themselves on Wii U don't appeal to kids as well, but I do think that those IPs are far more valuable amongst older gamers than they are amongst the kids of today.
So yeah, I don't really see how it being a platform for 'kids IPs' would be a reason to drop support.
So yeah, I don't really see how it being a platform for 'kids IPs' would be a reason to drop support.
It's kinda fucked up, but I sort of agree with this part: "What the Wii U demonstrated so effectively was that trying to entice both core and casual gamer fails to work on either".
Sure, if you CAN focus on both and giving both the attention they want, by all means, go ahead. But they clearly can't (or at least couldn't) and it kinda backfires, you know. I don't know, maybe I'm not making any sense.
Sure, if you CAN focus on both and giving both the attention they want, by all means, go ahead. But they clearly can't (or at least couldn't) and it kinda backfires, you know. I don't know, maybe I'm not making any sense.
And yeah, screw EA and all the usual GAF posts.
IsntChrisL
Member
I can't believe EA would back out so early for that stupid of a reason.
...but it is EA...
...but it is EA...
Did the My Sims franchise bomb?
Captain Smoker
Member
Well, if you wouldn't look closer it'd seem that Acti doesn't publish anything else than Skylanders and COD these days lol.
dragonelite
Member
Seems legit.
That Mass Effect quote got me. That most of EA's line-up aren't the kind of games that are well suited to the current audience of the Wii U is true, but citing Mass Effect 3U as a "solid effort" that surprisingly didn't sell well is infuriating.
It's close to being offending, really. What do they think of their customers, when they apparently expect them to be total brainless morons who buy a game for full-price, when you can get the whole trilogy for cheaper everywhere else?
It's close to being offending, really. What do they think of their customers, when they apparently expect them to be total brainless morons who buy a game for full-price, when you can get the whole trilogy for cheaper everywhere else?
Considering the sales of AC, CoD, and other third party games, you are probably (99%) right.
But at least then they could say they actually tried with a solid effort, 3 games in 1.
These franchises had their their fan bases raised on the other platforms, so most of them have no reason to jump on to Wii U when they already own a 360,PS3 or have begun migrating over to PS4 and Xbox One. Whether a Wii U third party port has been released on time, has been late, or has some of its content removed, it has not really make much of a difference at all - they've all sold poorly. It's a waste of their time to put the next Assassin's Creed, Madden and Call of Duty on the console. Some third parties may get occasionally lucky with certain IPs for certain genres ( Resident Evil and Sonic seem to do pretty well on it, as does Monster Hunter), but there's obviously a general lack of interest when it comes to a lot of these western franchises to Nintendo gamers. So there is indeed truth in the notion that only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo consoles... hell even Rayman Legends didn't do well an that's a colorful, charming platformer!
I can see why EA calls Nintendo consoles a platform for kids, especially when mature software generally doesn't do well on it, and as a result of that, there's little of it offered. I own about as many third party games on my Wii and GameCube as I did 1st party software, but franchises like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, GTA, Final Fantasy, Battlefield, Need for Speed, Burn Out, and Metal Gear Solid just don't interest me.
I can see why EA calls Nintendo consoles a platform for kids, especially when mature software generally doesn't do well on it, and as a result of that, there's little of it offered. I own about as many third party games on my Wii and GameCube as I did 1st party software, but franchises like Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, GTA, Final Fantasy, Battlefield, Need for Speed, Burn Out, and Metal Gear Solid just don't interest me.
I think it's because of Origin
That's even dumber
You can find games for 'high skill users' on Wii U, on iOS and probably even NGage
That's even dumber
You can find games for 'high skill users' on Wii U, on iOS and probably even NGage
Nostremitus
Member
Sometimes people say things that just make my head hurt... Using Mass Effect 3 as an excuse? Really?