interesting lol
IDK if thats sarcasm. But just compare Lockjaw's Locker with any underwater level from the first game.
Yeah, DKC2 would have been a good one to include and that's the biggest one I missed. One thing to keep in mind is time limitations (3 days total to make the video) and game library. I don't have Treasures of the Deep on PlayStation so I could not include it. Dark Edge is interesting but I don't think it necessarily stands above any of the other choices - it's just the background layer inverted. I didn't really want to focus on a game purely via emulation either.
You can use this Expendable's patch to get EMBM in any other card. It works fine in my 1080, tho it crash when you exit the game.
I'll give that patch a go then.You can use this Expendable's patch to get EMBM in any other card. It works fine in my 1080, tho it crash when you exit the game.
http://redtux.rocik.net/?page=projects&sub=expendable
As i said, i would have included other games but its just my opinion.
BTW: One funny Splashdown shot, trying to get widescreen working.
That's the weirdest thing! I tested exactly that in wireframe mode and didn't see any changes to underlying geometry when AI passed over it. I wonder if this is limited to certain areas? Or what. Fascinating. That makes it even more impressive then!
But look at this beauty.
Which emulator are you using to get those wireframe shots? PS1 is one I've had issues with in the past. Those look great.Another worth-mentioning contender for Wave Race 64 in Playstation could be Dead in the Water, an obscure vehicular-combat-racing game.
Water physics are CRAZY and environment is partially destructible. Tho water popup is high and framerate is low
I'm already a big fan of the nuclear grenade.
D dark10x I was wrong with the distance theory for WR64 waves. Its a matter of weight. 1st was M.Jetter (medium), 2nd was A.Stewart (light) and 3rd was D.Mariner (heavy). Again, radorn discovery.
It is the wireframe rendering mode of gpuBladeSoft. Edgbla's plugin is, by far, the most complete to debug effects in Playstation. And the plugin that started the sub-pixel accuracy and texture perspective correction stuff. It can be used with PCSXR, ePSXe and other emulators.
Soooooo my vote "most beautiful water" goes to a current-gen game which impressed me immensely: Mortal Kombat X. Just look at that beautiful sea!
These are all interesting. I actually have the PC version of VR Sports: Powerboat Racing but always found it to be insanely ugly and horrible to play. I got it for free from a friend back in the late 90s.A few more, clearly less noticeable, water effects in Playstation:
VR Sports: Powerboat Racing. Simple geometry effect without any interaction. Tho you can tilt the speedboat and go underwater after jumps, like in Wave Race 64. It probably has the worst camera position i've ever seen in a racing game and the controls are atrocious.
They are also using previous content from other DF Retros, at least the Tomb Raider, Sonic R, Panzer Dragoon, maybe more, IDK if i have seen all of them.Hey Dark, excellent video and analysis. Just one question about your workflow, I don't know anything about video production but you mentioned it took you 3 days to create this. How would your process work? Is it something like one day to get your observations, research, then another day to get the footage and then stitch it together in the last day? I'm just surprised it took you 3 days to come up with such a long video, that's efficient.
Well, basically, for this project, I spent the first day and a half just capturing like a mad man. I made a spreadsheet of the games I wanted to include and just went for it. I try to capture in chunks per console since each machine has its own quirks in terms of how you capture it (I use the OSSC for 240p and 480p but can only play 240p on my PVM so I have to use an external viewer for 480p which is annoying). For 480i, I use the Framemeister instead since I feel it does a better job with interlaced signals - the bob de-interlacing on the OSSC is somewhat less attractive (though I did wind up using it for Hydro Thunder on DC since I could not get VGA support to work on that game and didn't want to swap everything for one title).Hey Dark, excellent video and analysis. Just one question about your workflow, I don't know anything about video production but you mentioned it took you 3 days to create this. How would your process work? Is it something like one day to get your observations, research, then another day to get the footage and then stitch it together in the last day? I'm just surprised it took you 3 days to come up with such a long video, that's efficient.
Well...believe it or not, the only footage I used from previous capture was Panzer Dragoon 1, that small clip of Powerslave, and the MGS2 stuff. Oh, and the modern games - like Sea of Thieves where I needed a quick clip. Other than that, everything else was fresh capture since I needed specific clips. With Tomb Raider, for instance, the clips I had left didn't showcase the water so I had to re-capture that. I haven't featured Sonic R before either so that was all fresh.
It's an amazing device, no doubt. The main benefit for me, more than anything, is support for ProRes output. ProRes files work so supremely well with Adobe Premiere/After Effects. The speed you get out of them makes editing 4K60 videos an absolute breeze - I can apply all sorts of layers and effects to a video and view it in real-time at full frame-rate/res. You can also do multi-way split-screens by stacking multiple files without any significant performance decrease. No other format I've found is anywhere near as fast to work with.
Both MC and TN are really interesting titles from a tech perspective. MC is perhaps more impressive considering it does these reflections in 1994, but Terra Nova (which is a great pick!) did so many things along with this aswell. It was good seeing that game being featured.
Ill give you another notoriously difficult one that you might want to cover somewhere sometime: Severance: Blade of Darkness. It does reflections on pre-shader hardware (Meaning Voodoo cards can run this aswell) along with proper physics years before Half Life 2, Doom 3 stencil shadows, contextual damage and so much more. It is a bitch to run though, atleast on my PC, but check it out. I wrote an entire ERA thread based off of it. - https://www.resetera.com/threads/se...-edge-of-darkness-a-graphical-showcase.35455/I'll give that patch a go then.
The others, though, as you say, your opinion - not from lack of research. DKC2 is one that I wish I would have included instead of DKC1, though, but the others I either didn't own or didn't really think they fit in. I really need a PS1 and PS2 that can play burned discs for situations like this.
It's funny but I first thought of this water episode back in early May but wasn't able to start working on it until this past week. I was chatting about it and remembered mentioning Expendable specifically...
John, i am really happy to see you post here again and describe your development process. When i saw all these games, i didn't instantly think you filmed all of these sections yourself, as there is some really fine editing in there. But then i realized: This is John Linneman i am talking about, who would proclaim he has a pink cartridge (Haha!). So ofcourse he does this. Ofcourse he films it all. So really, thank you from my end. The amount of effort in display (Aside regular DF work, even!) is stunning. It is why i love DF Retro. Its the videoform version of these Hardcore Gaming 101 books that get pushed out ever so often, full of details and trivia bits. Except DF Retro is pushed out more often than HG101. Thank you, John, for delivering yet another fine episode.
