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Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen

Nintendo is allergic to anti aliasing, its crazy they keep releasing games with such simple graphics full of jaggies

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No one in here will ever convince me that E-Day doesn't look fantastic, especially if The Coalition are indeed able to hit their goal of DRS 4K with hardware RT, and 60 fps on console.

I can predict to you this will run in 1080p or below on SX, especially if they using HW Lumen.

Too bad FSR4.1 isn't coming to Xbox, TSR is blurry as fuck with lower resolutions.
 
Nintendo is allergic to anti aliasing, its crazy they keep releasing games with such simple graphics full of jaggies

They must have some petty reason to not use it, I don't see why else

Like they scrapped their AI patent because it was basically a description of DLSS and Nvidia said nuh-uh? Seriously, wouldn't surprise me.
 
I don't really understand the general disappointment here after the past week. We are finally getting current gen looking games and you guys are this underwhelmed?

I will get a lot of flak for this but this is the price of that f'n 60 fps obsession many of you have. This delusion only started this gen that designing a game with 60 fps in mind is the same as designing one with 30 (talking about consoles of course). In previous gens this was common knowledge between devs and players alike that you can have mindblowing visuals or better performance on console, and devs had to decide which one they wanted. But thanks to the 60fps cult devs were happy because all they had to do now was to use their prevgen engines have 2 modes where the difference is mostly in resolution and call it a day. But of course then the crying was about the missing jump in visuals. Somehow they figured out to have this small jump at 60 fps now at least so we should be happy.

Of course if it was up to me I would say have everything designed with 30 fps in mind and even at 1440 or 1080p and melt our faces, but that's just me.
 
I don't really understand the general disappointment here after the past week. We are finally getting current gen looking games and you guys are this underwhelmed?

I will get a lot of flak for this but this is the price of that f'n 60 fps obsession many of you have. This delusion only started this gen that designing a game with 60 fps in mind is the same as designing one with 30 (talking about consoles of course). In previous gens this was common knowledge between devs and players alike that you can have mindblowing visuals or better performance on console, and devs had to decide which one they wanted. But thanks to the 60fps cult devs were happy because all they had to do now was to use their prevgen engines have 2 modes where the difference is mostly in resolution and call it a day. But of course then the crying was about the missing jump in visuals. Somehow they figured out to have this small jump at 60 fps now at least so we should be happy.

Of course if it was up to me I would say have everything designed with 30 fps in mind and even at 1440 or 1080p and melt our faces, but that's just me.
Most of the games shown were indeed next gen. problem is that wolverine and gears fail to look better than indie games, that will dominate the discussion.

i think this was a good e3 with lots of stunning games shown.

my top 10:
- ILL
- Halo remake
- God Of War Laundry
- Silent Hill Townfall
- College Football
- genAtlas
- Stellar Blade 2
- Until Dawn 2
- RE Code Veronica
- Crossfire
 
Most of the games shown were indeed next gen. problem is that wolverine and gears fail to look better than indie games, that will dominate the discussion.

i think this was a good e3 with lots of stunning games shown.

my top 10:
- ILL
- Halo remake
- God Of War Laundry
- Silent Hill Townfall
- College Football
- genAtlas
- Stellar Blade 2
- Until Dawn 2
- RE Code Veronica
- Crossfire
You really fucking put until down 2 in that list over gears or plague tale or tomb raider uh...
 
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ok, replace until dawn with tomb raider but keep that ps3 era lighting in plauges tale in the trash bin where it belongs. right next to wolverine.

you can put gears at 11. at least its competent.
It's funny how you think that bad of plague while bojii thought it was the best graphic of the event :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

People really have different priorities when it comes to judge graphic.
 
I don't really understand the general disappointment here after the past week. We are finally getting current gen looking games and you guys are this underwhelmed?

I will get a lot of flak for this but this is the price of that f'n 60 fps obsession many of you have. This delusion only started this gen that designing a game with 60 fps in mind is the same as designing one with 30 (talking about consoles of course). In previous gens this was common knowledge between devs and players alike that you can have mindblowing visuals or better performance on console, and devs had to decide which one they wanted. But thanks to the 60fps cult devs were happy because all they had to do now was to use their prevgen engines have 2 modes where the difference is mostly in resolution and call it a day. But of course then the crying was about the missing jump in visuals. Somehow they figured out to have this small jump at 60 fps now at least so we should be happy.

Of course if it was up to me I would say have everything designed with 30 fps in mind and even at 1440 or 1080p and melt our faces, but that's just me.
I dont get this post. Yes its underwhelming and yes we blame a lot of it on the pursuit of 60fps which you also agree with... so whats the issue?
 
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Most of the games shown were indeed next gen. problem is that wolverine and gears fail to look better than indie games, that will dominate the discussion.

i think this was a good e3 with lots of stunning games shown.

my top 10:
- ILL
- Halo remake
- God Of War Laundry
- Silent Hill Townfall
- College Football
- genAtlas
- Stellar Blade 2
- Until Dawn 2
- RE Code Veronica
- Crossfire
I also found Gears to be awesome in addition to your list. Though I agree about Wolverine, that's just a big disappointment. Strange because Rift Apart is one of the few mindblowing games this gen.

I dont get this post. Yes its underwhelming and yes we blame a lot of it on the pursuit of 60fps which you also agree with... so whats the issue?
It's easy, then my post is not talking about you.
 
Here some small comparison between 2018 / ragnarok on ps5 vs faye on close settings, lightings as much as possible,
I will continue this when I have time with more pictures from faye trailer and old gow titles
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Requiem was first truly current gen game (30fps on consoles even) and this one doesn't look worse. I can't agree with that.
Requiem blew me slap away when I first saw it, and when the game introduced the first vista. Especially after having just finished the first game, and starting Requiem immediately after, the graphical step up was jaw-dropping. Truly, the first REAL current gen showcase.
 
Here some small comparison between 2018 / ragnarok on ps5 vs faye on close settings, lightings as much as possible,
I will continue this when I have time with more pictures from faye trailer and old gow titles
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Alright man if you're going to do this then I'm going to have to bring my own 2018/Ragnorak screenshots. Screenshots that I grabbed myself while playing each of these games on PC.

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Does Laufey look better than this? Sure, I guess. In the same way Assassin's Creed Odyssey looks better than Assassin's Creed Origins, maybe.


The "jump" to Laufey from God of War 2018 is what we would've expected to see within the same generation , ala Uncharted to Uncharted 2 or Bioshock to Bioshock Infinite. Not 9 years later on next generation hardware.
 
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Alright man if you're going to do this then I'm going to have to bring my own 2018/Ragnorak screenshots. Screenshots that I grabbed myself while playing each of these games on PC.

Does Laufey look better than this? Sure, I guess. In the same way Assassin's Creed Odyssey looks better than Assassin's Creed Origins, maybe.


The "jump" to Laufey from God of War 2018 is what we would've expected to see within the same generation , ala Uncharted to Uncharted 2 or Bioshock to Bioshock Infinite. Not 9 years later on next generation hardware.
Thanks for these pictures my friend but fact faye looks hugely better, here's your direct feed pc version pictures(which is better than any ps5 version) compared to Faye ps5 youtube pictures
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Lighting, environment, character models and hair all looks hugely better and considering Faye run at 60fps with those visuals I really like it.
 
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Alright man if you're going to do this then I'm going to have to bring my own 2018/Ragnorak screenshots. Screenshots that I grabbed myself while playing each of these games on PC.

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Does Laufey look better than this? Sure, I guess. In the same way Assassin's Creed Odyssey looks better than Assassin's Creed Origins, maybe.


The "jump" to Laufey from God of War 2018 is what we would've expected to see within the same generation , ala Uncharted to Uncharted 2 or Bioshock to Bioshock Infinite. Not 9 years later on next generation hardware.

I understand people are a bit underwhelm by GoWR as a PS5 game because of it's cross gen nature and being how similar it looks compare to PS4 version, but in reality its a technical masterpiece for PS4, like every AAA games that came out at the end of a console life cycle. SMS and GG really figured out how to push the GCN architecture to push complex geometry that we rarely see on PS4 gen and decent texture quality in a tiny ram pool.
 
I understand people are a bit underwhelm by GoWR as a PS5 game because of it's cross gen nature and being how similar it looks compare to PS4 version, but in reality its a technical masterpiece for PS4, like every AAA games that came out at the end of a console life cycle. SMS and GG really figured out how to push the GCN architecture to push complex geometry that we rarely see on PS4 gen and decent texture quality in a tiny ram pool.
I think Ragnorak has similar fidelity to 2018, but the art design was much improved. I am currently replaying. Still looks better than 95% of AAA games released today
 
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I think Ragnorak has similar fidelity to 2018, but the art design was much improved. I am currently replaying. Still looks better than 95% of AAA games today

I mean even when Sony lifts the foot from the pedal, they were so ahead of everyone in PS4 days that they're still legit really good looking games even if they lack modern features.
 
Thanks for these pictures my friend but fact faye looks hugely better, here's your direct feed pc version pictures(which is better than any ps5 version) compared to Faye ps5 youtube pictures
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Lighting, environment, character models and hair all looks hugely better and considering Faye run at 60fps with those visuals I really like it.
Let's not turn into vick. We have all seen the game. Just a few screenshots will do.
 
I think Ragnorak has similar fidelity to 2018, but the art design was much improved. I am currently replaying. Still looks better than 95% of AAA games released today

the thing that jumps out immediately for GoWR and Horizon 2 on PS4 is the background geometry complexity. I actually played the PS5 version of those games first before I tried the PS4 version out of curiosity. Was blown away. The GCN architecture is not very strong with tessellation, even dev like Naughty Dog can't not get good performance with U4, even later release like Tlou 2. They use other assets like vegetation and trash overlaying on top to cover up but as soon as you reach levels with rocks etc, they are very flat. A lot of other games ie Rise of the Tomb Raider etc have tessellation turn off on both xbox and PS4. Sniper Elite also if I recall. FF7 obviously which they still struggle to this day lol. Whatever solution SMS and GG used for their mesh, is highly impressive for PS4. Ironically, modder who looked into Bloodborne and all ther souls games said DS3 and ER actually have less tessellation and POM than BB. Kind of explains why they run better somewhat
 
Thats pure cope, bro, plenty studios make games with great visuals this gen, just platform holders(all 3, sony, ms and ninny but here coz of weak hardware) dropped the ball a lot compared to previous gen when they were among top of the top.
Game bugdets skyrocketed while quality went down and devtime increased- thats what happened with DEI infested western dev studios, i know some ppl will say colleration doesnt mean causation but there is srs pattern recognition going on :)

If gta6 looks mid then i will eat my words but chances are it will look top1 even if we compare gta6 ps5 footage vs most high budget AAA pr0 footage (again, not fps, iq but graphic fidelity wise), obviously series S will look like blurry mess xD
What am I wrong about?
 
Just wrapped up 007 First Light. I'm a bit mixed on the game overall, but visually it was frequently impressive, if inconsistent. Reminded me a bit of Control, actually.

A few more of my shots

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