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Capcom interview on DMC4-multiplatform and minimum graphics???..Da hell.
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Barring certain titles (exclusives maybe) here and there and of course RE5 I have a feeling that alot of Capcom's output this gen won't really be pushing the boat out in terms of graphics owing to this new lowest common denominator development philosophy.
They seem happy to push the majority of their titles for not only 360 and PS3, but also giving a greater emphasis on porting to the PC as well. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the PC version of RE5 shipped day and date with the console versions.
But in saying, I don't see Capcom losing any fans or critical kudos this gen with such a move.
They seem happy to push the majority of their titles for not only 360 and PS3, but also giving a greater emphasis on porting to the PC as well. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the PC version of RE5 shipped day and date with the console versions.
But in saying, I don't see Capcom losing any fans or critical kudos this gen with such a move.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
karasu said:
nothing i experience while playing it
it was actually kinda... a uh, non-issue. especially compared to other games with whips.
professor_t
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C4Lukins said:
You're right, but people are going to misinterpret his quote to hell and back.
a Master Ninja
Member
I am a bit concerned that the gameplay in DMC4 will only have minor, incremental changes/improvements over DMC3. Hopefully they are just holding a lot back from us at this time.John Harker said:nothing i experience while playing it
it was actually kinda... a uh, non-issue. especially compared to other games with whips.
Busty said:
Right. Capcom won't be on the forefront of GFX because of the 360...or in Dmc4 case the Ps3, oh wait, what? But then again, the PC is more powerfull than the others. I don't understand i'm confused. I thought Lost Planet and Dead rising looked amazing, Res5 looks amazing, and hey the guy even says 360 and Ps3 are on the same level.
Oh wait, point taken, if you want to be on the forefront, forget the 360 and Ps3, you have to start on PC and push it, then worry about the weaker platforms like 360 and Ps3.
But that's kinda what is going to happen with everyone no? PC is almost never the target platform in a multiplat environment. So capcom is on the same level of playing field as the others.
DantesWrath
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The REAL megaton is here:
GameSpy: Are we going to see Dante's brother?
Kobayashi: No, he doesn't come in the game. [Kobayashi speaks to his translator for a moment]. He says you are a fan! (laughter)
LOL Vergil fans owned.
GameSpy: Are we going to see Dante's brother?
Kobayashi: No, he doesn't come in the game. [Kobayashi speaks to his translator for a moment]. He says you are a fan! (laughter)
LOL Vergil fans owned.
Hey PleoMax! How's things? 
Yup, that's it exactly you've taken my entire point and distilled it perfectly. -_-
I was commenting that in the past when Capcom have talked about their 'framework' engine it's come across to me that they simply aren't going to be trying to run with the rest of the graphics pack this gen when it comes to their multi format development approach.
Though I like Lost Planet, the game looked good, but IMHO, it never really blew me away. The same of Dead Rising (though to be fair, I haven't seen as much of that) from what I've seen. Again, DMC4 looks good, but really doesn't blow me away.
I'm not saying that any platform is causing Capcom to 'hold back'. It just appears to me that when it comes to multi format development, especially this gen the saying "..jack of all trades, master of none.." particularly applies.
I just think that barring certain 'AAA' titles that will get that extra bit of polish like RE5 and perhaps some exclusives (for whoever) Capcom are going to be doing the 'WOWing' with the gameplay, not particularly the graphics.
PleoMax said:
Yup, that's it exactly you've taken my entire point and distilled it perfectly. -_-
I was commenting that in the past when Capcom have talked about their 'framework' engine it's come across to me that they simply aren't going to be trying to run with the rest of the graphics pack this gen when it comes to their multi format development approach.
Though I like Lost Planet, the game looked good, but IMHO, it never really blew me away. The same of Dead Rising (though to be fair, I haven't seen as much of that) from what I've seen. Again, DMC4 looks good, but really doesn't blow me away.
I'm not saying that any platform is causing Capcom to 'hold back'. It just appears to me that when it comes to multi format development, especially this gen the saying "..jack of all trades, master of none.." particularly applies.
I just think that barring certain 'AAA' titles that will get that extra bit of polish like RE5 and perhaps some exclusives (for whoever) Capcom are going to be doing the 'WOWing' with the gameplay, not particularly the graphics.
Mefisutoferesu
Member
This worries me...
Why would it worry you? You can go through DMC3 with just Gunslinger as well... :lolMefisutoferesu said:
Also this is the WORST thread title ever. The Producer obviously meant that the bare minimum goal of the team was to make the game look next-gen. They also have some pretty nice game play changes along with some other stuff planned for the game.
The bigger megaton from this news is that Kobayashi has stated NO Vergil... Dahbomb am cry total!
Please let this be a cover up or something...
It allows the player to perform moves that are generally deemed impossible EVEN in the DMC universe. Stuff like juggling bosses and stuff. It also adds some platforming bit to the level progression, albeit it's pretty basic stuff. Capcom still has A LOT to show on the Devil Bringer and they haven't even showed the new toys/weapons yet.
Mefisutoferesu
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Mmm, I think I might have misinterpreted the comment. I got a vibe that he was saying the game would be easy for casuals or something...Dahbomb said:
ParticleReality
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DantesWrath said:
Yet they didn't ask about the 2 people fans want, Lady and Trish. ****ing GameSpy with their out of date website and their bad interviews.
Vyse The Legend
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DantesWrath said:
So, Nero is Dante's (or Vergil's) son confirmed?
Busty said:Hey PleoMax! How's things?
Yup, that's it exactly you've taken my entire point and distilled it perfectly. -_-
I was commenting that in the past when Capcom have talked about their 'framework' engine it's come across to me that they simply aren't going to be trying to run with the rest of the graphics pack this gen when it comes to their multi format development approach.
Though I like Lost Planet, the game looked good, but IMHO, it never really blew me away. The same of Dead Rising (though to be fair, I haven't seen as much of that) from what I've seen. Again, DMC4 looks good, but really doesn't blow me away.
I'm not saying that any platform is causing Capcom to 'hold back'. It just appears to me that when it comes to multi format development, especially this gen the saying "..jack of all trades, master of none.." particularly applies.
I just think that barring certain 'AAA' titles that will get that extra bit of polish like RE5 and perhaps some exclusives (for whoever) Capcom are going to be doing the 'WOWing' with the gameplay, not particularly the graphics.
I could make just as good an argument (probably better) for just the opposite. Consider the advantages of a single in house engine for all titles:
1. No need for dozens of expensive development kits from MS and Sony, so more money is saved for more staffers or better game specific resources (art, sound, etc.).
2. All programmers are educated on the exact same basic engine framework. The primary benefit is that transitioning staff from a finalized project to a new title are caught up and ready to make serious headway much quicker than if they had to relearn an entirely new engine.
3. Transitioning a common engine over to the PS3 and 360, despite game specific variances, will allow for more efficient and effective methods in porting over code. This is most important because as this gets improved and streamlined games will go from the PC base engine over to 360 and PS3 iterations in superior form and in less time, giving more time for optimization and polishing.
Will Capcom turn out the most amazing graphical achievements this generation? Probably not, but I bet they'll be damn close with nearly every title, as opposed to a few gems scattered in between a lot of middling titles like most other companies will be.
Gears of War is arguably the best looking game out on any system. It comes from a similar style of development, a core engine that a wide array of games can be built out of. Both Gears and future Capcom titles will be made by the very people who made that core engine, and therefore understand it best.
Dead Rising didn't look that amazing, but Lost Planet came from the same basic source and looks significantly better. Now Devil May Cry is raising the bar once again. Why shouldn't we expect RE5 to do the same, followed by Dead Rising 2, Devil May Cry 5, or whatever else Capcom makes?
PistolGrip
sex vacation in Guam
OP title should change with - sry poor reading comprehension
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
more like lame attempt at FUD.PistolGrip said:OP title should change with - sry poor reading comprehension
He is always in the lookout for crap against the 360 or save Sony's face. I remember when he started the Madden PS3 60 fps rumor... he never rests.
C- Warrior
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godhandiscen said:
Seriously, glad I wasn't the only one finding consistencies with the threads/posts made by the OP. Somebody should probably just change the topic title and give the original poster a year subscription to 'reading is fun.'
There already IS on the fly style switch in DMC4. In fact the 4 main styles are mapped to the D-pad now.A2D said:No Vergil? What are they doing
To be honest, I pretty much expect marginal improvements to DMC3's combat system since it's so amazing in the first place. I'd love to have the ability to play as Dante and switch between 2 styles though, could be pretty damn crazy
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
If Vergil is not in DMC4 in some form I will not buy it. I swear to god.
It was bold of them to introduce a whole new character when people were already fine with Dante. But taking the spotlight off the second most loved character in the series as well as the first... thats just retarded, not bold, retarded.
It was bold of them to introduce a whole new character when people were already fine with Dante. But taking the spotlight off the second most loved character in the series as well as the first... thats just retarded, not bold, retarded.
C- Warrior
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for everyone that hasn't realized this yet...
We've had an official DMC4 thread -well active- and updated by the OP for months now. post there about your vergil fan-girlism or whatever the **** you guys have with him.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120112&page=38
We've had an official DMC4 thread -well active- and updated by the OP for months now. post there about your vergil fan-girlism or whatever the **** you guys have with him.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120112&page=38
this is really why FF13 and MGS4 should be multiplatform. Not because of fanboy wishes, but because the actual fanbase is split among the two and not just exclusively on Ps3 this time around. MGS4 at least as that seems the kind of game xbox360 fans would buy millions of copies of. Its less of a risk and has a larger potential to at least match previous franchise sales. Why not do it?
C- Warrior
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Dahbomb said:
The official thread is fine. If it bothered the mods they would have locked it. Don't be stupid.
OokieSpookie
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Innotech said:
No, this thread and interview is exacly why they should NOT be multiplatform.
(You notice how the assclowns always mention PS3 games should go for the 360 but never the other way?)
As many people have said in this thread, a good number of multi console games are hurt by them having to make allowances for each system instead of tailoring and focusing on the strenths of each system.
In rare cases a company will assign total seperate teams to each system and those are the exceptions in most cases but it does not happen enough yet.
Beer Monkey
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OokieSpookie said:
Game development is a business, and skyrocketing budgets this gen make cross-platform a total necessity. If you want third parties to go single-platform, then you want games with smaller budgets, smaller assets, and so on. Shareholders want a return on their investment. First-party publishers can afford to fund big titles to showcase their platform, but nobody else is really going to get away with it (especially without a moneyhat).