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E3 Cancelled for Next Year and "Forseeable Future"?

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Aaron

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SA-X said:
Oh no I have to run around for three days and post impressions and screens of all the games I'm playing! My life sucks!
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Leaving out the journos forced to play crap games and churn out news articles until their eyeballs roll into the backs of their skulls, there are the people actually working the booths that have to make the same speeches over and over and over for days on end, having very little free time to check out anything that might be interesting... and even if they do, they'll be at least a half hour wait from all the red badges crowding the machines like a free arcade.

E3 itself just isn't fun if you're there for any sort of purpose.
 
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Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
Good. Hopefully this will lead to publishers releasing information staggered throughout the calendar rather than all of them doing so in the same 3 days every year.


Hey, maybe it'll even give us some gaming news to talk about in the long summer months!
 
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Cdammen

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"I'm happy ... and angry!"

Pro: More gaming news evenly spread across the whole year. More secrecy and unexpected unveilings. More time/money spent on the games.

Con: The magic and the game news cluster**** will be missed. I loved E3, the whole shebang was almost palpable even from a computer screen here in Sweden :(
 
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Bo130

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I searched for it, as I didn't know either. Seems that they're talking about doing a fusion between TGS and TIFF (Tokyo International Film Festival) to make it more media-friendly and less only-game.
 
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bud

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Bo130 said:
I searched for it, as I didn't know either. Seems that they're talking about doing a fusion between TGS and TIFF (Tokyo International Film Festival) to make it more media-friendly and less only-game.
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tnx
 
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Zenith

Banned
Y2Kevbug11 said:
I can't name any other trade show where regular old fans go en masse. Nobody goes to the national association of plumbers convention.
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Stop talking out your ass. Car conventions, gun conventions, porn conventions...
 
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MrSardonic

The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
Kevin said:
So what do I think happend? This is my speculation so... I think most publishers put pretty much all of their effort into promoting Sony and Microsoft that it was a huge blow when the Wii came out as such a major hit litterally catching nearly all of the E3 attention, hype and press that many companies just got really angry and are thinking to themselves "Forget this, what a waste of time." and have decided to abandon E3. I have never attended the event but man am I disapointed to see it get downsized and practically killed off. We don't know for sure whats going on yet but either way it's not looking so good for the future of E3. I always look forward to getting lots of news from the event and I am going to miss it being as big as an event as it was.
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sp0rsk said:
but man you are a ****ing moron. i know youre not being sarcastic either, so dont try to back outo fthis one smarty pants!
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obviously you didn't see his hilarious (by which i mean sad) blogsite leading up to E3. WTFOMG the visor is coming! Visual disruptor! 3D projectors.

http://theboard.zogdog.com/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=11&

:lol
 
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Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
I'm going to have to agree with Kobun and Che. Like I said on the first page, more and more companies are doing their own thing, and that's for the better. I enjoyed last year's hot summer nights a lot more than this passed E3. Invite only, plenty of kiosks not being clogged by guys that don't belong there. It's great.:)
 
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Gazunta

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I posted my reaction to it here. But basically here's the gist of it:

E3 was good because it scared everyone shitless. The very reason gaming companies looked towards E3 with dread was its core strength - it was, largely, an uncontrolled environment. Sony's yearly inept bumbling of their press conference has become stuff of legend, and will now fade into the ether. Instead it will now be replaced by santized and safe corporate events where the PR people can tightly enforce what's seen, what's said and what's thought.
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How the hell are places like Telltale Games or Ignition or Atlus or anyone in that hellish bazaar called Kentia Hall going to get that "drive by traffic", now that E3 is gone? To hell with the celebration of not having to put up with artificial news delays or the interminable wait for the E3 press conferences, this is a real problem. It's hard enough for the little guys to get noticed as it is. Angry Gamer tries damn hard to cover the games and topics that aren't on anyone else's radar, and this doesn't help. This is a win only for the EAs, Sonys and IGNs of the world. Everyone else has to fend for themselves now.
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Blimblim

The Inside Track
Gazunta said:
This is a win only for the EAs, Sonys and IGNs of the world. Everyone else has to fend for themselves now.
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I couldn't agree more. I'll just wait for the official announcement now, but if E3 really disappears only the big corporations will win in the process.
 
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Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
So my last, fading memory of E3 will be "giant turtle receives MASSIVE DAMAGE"

Sad I never got to see one in person.
 
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Archer

Member
My opinion is that this issue will bring either one of two things, or both:

A bluff on the part of certain publishers to negotiate better deals on E3. If the publishers loose, no big as they already have cost effective "safety measures" in place to promote their products. If they can score better contracts to save money, the show goes on and status quo resumes speed.

- or -

E3 is no more. It is downsized. Many people will loose their jobs, including those directly in the industry as well as in the supporting industries - media and PR, IT, etc - that rely on E3 for their annual revenue. The big companies will survive and possibly begin to take over smaller publishers, even more so than you see now. This may be the end of the "little guy" publisher for a while. No more venue.

I believe that my second scenario will occur. This is going to be very big, dirty deal that will spill out over several months. However, this is only pure speculation. I will be very happy if I'm wrong.
 
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Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
I guess i see Gazuntas point about the little guys gettingt he screw out of this, but do you really think they make any better returns on the show than the big guys? I doubt it. Very few publications seem to take any notice of the little guys, maybe they go talk to them, put some screens and a preview up...i doubt anyone other than those refreshing gamespot every 2 minutes would know anymore about those titles than they did before the show.

If the big guys cant justify staying at E3 i dont see how an event like it can give a net benefit to anyone.

Im sure the smaller publishers could find better outlets for the money, ie demos, better online presence, etc...stuff that links them directly to their fans rather than being at the mercy of journos who mostly have bigger fish to fry.
 
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sinseers

Member
gofreak said:
Wow, that's even worse that Gamespot suggested.



So basically, no more joint show at all? Just company specific events ala 'gamer days' etc?
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I totally didn't see this one coming. With all my "The industry is gonna crash next gen" talk amongst my buddies. I never expected this to happen. That is a big WOW!
 
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crunker99

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those of us who went to e3 the past successive years had to have an inlking of this

this spectacle has been overshadowing the actual games and news for a while now, and that just is not right

plus the fact that our jobs as reports because so much harder when we had to night the utter LEGIONS of kiddies and fans who made their way into the convention somehow

when media has to wait 6 hours to check out a game because the line is filled with punks wearing wifebeaters and saying "dag, yo," then you know something is out of wack

people have short memories guys, withint 10 years you will see the spectacle back, maybe never with quite the same grandure as before, but it will come back

the worst part about all of this is that there really is somethign to be said for at least seeing the thing that is (or was, actually ) E3 in all its glory. it was quite a sight folks, and i feel for those of you who just were never able to get there
 
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RuGalz

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Ghost said:
I guess i see Gazuntas point about the little guys gettingt he screw out of this, but do you really think they make any better returns on the show than the big guys? I doubt it. Very few publications seem to take any notice of the little guys, maybe they go talk to them, put some screens and a preview up...i doubt anyone other than those refreshing gamespot every 2 minutes would know anymore about those titles than they did before the show.

If the big guys cant justify staying at E3 i dont see how an event like it can give a net benefit to anyone.

Im sure the smaller publishers could find better outlets for the money, ie demos, better online presence, etc...stuff that links them directly to their fans rather than being at the mercy of journos who mostly have bigger fish to fry.
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It's because big guys go out of theie ways trying to overshadow everyone else by spending a lot of money on a loud, fancy booth; of course the money spent isn't going to justify the return. Smaller guys usually have very normal booths to present themselves simply to get their products out there to be known. Their boothes don't tend to have hundreds of people gathering around waiting for t-shirts but they serve the purpose and to the point. I'm sure their cost to return ratio is in much better shape than big guys who spend past the point of diminishing return. Axing E3 as a whole would be a very disappointing dicision.
 
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Kobun Heat

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No new news except for their source specifically mentioning EA, which wasn't exactly hard to figure out anyway.

This should hardly be taken as confirmation that the show as we know it is still potentially on.
 
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TigersFan

Member
crunker99 said:
those of us who went to e3 the past successive years had to have an inlking of this

this spectacle has been overshadowing the actual games and news for a while now, and that just is not right

plus the fact that our jobs as reports because so much harder when we had to night the utter LEGIONS of kiddies and fans who made their way into the convention somehow

when media has to wait 6 hours to check out a game because the line is filled with punks wearing wifebeaters and saying "dag, yo," then you know something is out of wack

people have short memories guys, withint 10 years you will see the spectacle back, maybe never with quite the same grandure as before, but it will come back

the worst part about all of this is that there really is somethign to be said for at least seeing the thing that is (or was, actually ) E3 in all its glory. it was quite a sight folks, and i feel for those of you who just were never able to get there
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This should be a clue to you. No one gives a shit about the gaming media anymore. And the few sites that do actually matter got private shows. E3 is for the fans. They claimed it when the gaming media lost all its credibility. It will be replaced by PAX, which is also for that fans. Life will continue.
 
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Skilotonn

xbot xbot xbot xbot xbot
Man, this is huge - REALLY huge if it gets cancelled... I'm going to miss the huge online E3 poo-flinging contests...

But if this encourages more open-to-the-public shows (especially for Europe), then that's fine by me...

I'm going to miss the press conferences too... this year's trio was very, very memorable... :)
 
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Campster

Do you like my tight white sweater? STOP STARING
shaft said:
**** u nintendo. That is what happens if you make the best games and the most interesting boot every year. thanks for killing E3.
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yah i kno they had this awesome boot this year.
 
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drohne

hyperbolically metafictive
Lonestar said:
WHAT? So, I have a short term memory! Or should I have brought out my Futami Edition of the Thesaurus?
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i just meant that it was a crab and not a turtle. this is of no importance in itself, but given that every other gaf post for a full calendar month thereafter was "LOL GIANT ENEMY CRAB LOL" it's kinda remarkable that you've forgotten.
 
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Shard

XBLAnnoyance
Kobun Heat said:
No new news except for their source specifically mentioning EA, which wasn't exactly hard to figure out anyway.

This should hardly be taken as confirmation that the show as we know it is still potentially on.
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Indeed, quite the opposite in fact since this is the third report in what three days to speak of E3 in crisis.
 
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Kobun Heat

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Shard said:
Indeed, quite the opposite in fact since this is the third report in what three days to speak of E3 in crisis.
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Not to mention that it's 10:45 AM on Monday already and there's been no word from the ESA. Had this been a wild distortion of the facts they'd have already cleared it up -- what this means is they're still choosing their words carefully and preparing for the onslaught.
 
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LaneMeyer

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Kobun Heat said:
Not to mention that it's 10:45 AM on Monday already and there's been no word from the ESA. Had this been a wild distortion of the facts they'd have already cleared it up -- what this means is they're still choosing their words carefully and preparing for the onslaught.
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*wink*
 
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worldrunover

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E3 was the closest thing people not in the "business" had to an accessible gaming convention. Sure, maybe a lot of the people in the showroom didn't have the "creds" to be there, but why is that such a bad thing? We want companies like EA to dress up their own "invite only" shows so that they can force-feed the drooling public exactly what they want to see and hear? It's bad enough publications shove every new game down our throat like it's the next big thing. At least E3 allowed the "commoner" to see for themselves.

I know the show was getting combersome and a bit over-exposed, but now these companies are going to have completely controlled settings to hype up their mundane crap without reprocussion.

And yes I have been to E3, and it's an experience (good and bad). But I think it'll be missed.
 
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