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[Dr.Morris79]

I just wanted to go to Mars for christ sake

This nonsense is really pissing on my Douglas Quaid cosplay possibilities.

 

[Little Mac]

 

[ReBurn]

We live in a world where tech barons fight in the open streets like poors.

Billionaire retard fight

 

[winjer]

Elon Musk loses lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI after jury rules he waited too long to sue

The jury ruled Musk brought his lawsuit too late to find Sam Altman, OpenAI, or Microsoft liable for the claims the Tesla CEO brought against them.

www.businessinsider.com

• A federal jury found Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and OpenAI not liable in Elon Musk's lawsuit.
• They ruled that the Tesla CEO waited too long to bring the case, missing the statute of limitations.
• Musk accused Altman of illegally turning OpenAI into a for-profit venture with Microsoft's help.

The jurors in an Oakland, California, courtroom cleared the OpenAI CEO, its president, Greg Brockman, and OpenAI itself of Musk's allegations that they scammed him of early charitable contributions by operating OpenAI as a for-profit venture.

They ruled that the Tesla CEO knew about the details he described in his lawsuit as far back as 2021, but waited too long and missed the legal deadlines to bring his claims.

The jurors also found Microsoft not liable for "aiding and abetting" Altman and Brockman to violate charity laws while profiting from its deals with OpenAI, also because of the timing of Musk's lawsuit. A Microsoft spokesperson said the company welcomed the jury's decision.

US District Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers, who oversaw the case, said she accepted the jury's unanimous findings and would not overrule them.


The verdict is a major victory for Altman, who can now say that the world's richest man took longstanding questions about his honesty and management of OpenAI to court — and couldn't make the allegations stick. It is also a victory for his lead attorney, William Savitt of the elite law firm Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, which has forged close ties to OpenAI that continue to solidify as the company approaches an expected IPO.

Outside the courthouse Monday, Savitt said the verdict showed Musk's lawsuit "was a hypocritical attempt to sabotage a competitor," and its allegations bore "no relationship to reality."

"Mr. Musk can bring his claims and tell his stories, but what the nine members of the jury found was just that — stories, and not facts," he said.

Savitt also said OpenAI was preparing to bring its counterclaims, which accuse Musk of abusing the legal process through its lawsuit against the company.

The jury's decision scuttled a hearing Monday on potential remedies in the case. When the jury said it had reached a verdict, after less than two hours of deliberation, the judge was listening to expert testimony about how much money the defendants would have owed Musk for violating the law. If the jury had found the parties liable, Gonzalez Rogers would have decided the penalties and weighed Musk's request to unwind OpenAI's for-profit arm.

Because the jurors ruled that Musk missed the deadlines for his claims, they didn't reach a decision on the merits of his allegations.

Following the jury's decision, Musk's attorney Marc Toberoff told journalists that Musk planned to appeal the decision. He said it was a "tragedy" that OpenAI was able to "get away with" developing a for-profit venture after being founded as a charity.

Musk co-founded OpenAI with Altman in 2015, designing it as a nonprofit to develop artificial intelligence technology that would benefit all of humanity. They planned it as a counterweight to Google's DeepMind, which they saw as a threat if it successfully created general AI technology that would be in the hands of a private company.

The Tesla CEO's lawsuit, first filed in 2024, accused Altman and Brockman of perverting that mission by building a for-profit arm of OpenAI and partnering with Microsoft. They had effectively stolen the nonprofit and used it to enrich themselves off the back of Musk's $38 million in early donations to the organization, Musk alleged.

In their own arguments, OpenAI, Altman, and Brockman said that Musk was simply trying to hobble OpenAI through the litigation as his own AI company, xAI — now renamed SpaceXAI and part of his rocketship company — lagged behind. During the trial, they presented evidence that Musk understood that partnering with a major tech company like Microsoft would be essential to raising the capital needed for the extensive computing power required for AI development. Microsoft had argued that it didn't know about and wasn't bound to any agreements between Musk and OpenAI.

The trial featured testimony from Musk, who accused Altman of looting the OpenAI charity, and from Altman, who portrayed Musk as a power-hungry operator seeking to control the company himself.

It also featured numerous witnesses — including Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and former OpenAI board members — who testified about "The Blip," the company's nickname for the brief period where its board fired Altman as CEO.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Elon Musk loses lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI after jury rules he waited too long to sue

The jury ruled Musk brought his lawsuit too late to find Sam Altman, OpenAI, or Microsoft liable for the claims the Tesla CEO brought against them.

www.businessinsider.com

Interesting this came down to a statute of limitations ruling. I wonder how the appeal will go?

 

[Dr Bass]

If it was truly a statute of limitations issue, wouldn't that be something that the judge should have ruled on and not even allowed a trial? Not a lawyer, but that makes no sense to me. Two hours and that's the verdict? Sounds like they didn't deliberate at all.

 

[winjer]

If it was truly a statute of limitations issue, wouldn't that be something that the judge should have ruled on and not even allowed a trial? Not a lawyer, but that makes no sense to me. Two hours and that's the verdict? Sounds like they didn't deliberate at all.

Yes, it's an underwhelming decision. But I'm sure the lawyers on both sides will appreciate the extra fees they can charge from the appeal.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Shit, sorry I bumped the other thread. Should have checked first.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I do not like Elon, but Sam Altman clearly changed OpenAI from a charity to a for-profit business. Hell, Sam was president of the companay that gave OpenAI it's seed money: Y Combinator. Everything about OpenAI stinks to high heaven, and a movie about it would be more interesting than The Social Network.

 

[winjer]

I do not like Elon, but Sam Altman clearly changed OpenAI from a charity to a for-profit business. Hell, Sam was president of the companay that gave OpenAI it's seed money: Y Combinator. Everything about OpenAI stinks to high heaven, and a movie about it would be more interesting than The Social Network.

Truth be told, it's very likely that OpenAI has not made a single cent in profits. As most AI companies, with the exception of hardware companies such as nvidia.

 

[Solarstrike]

Fk these super nerds. Female companion robot whens?

 

[Zacfoldor]

Truth be told, it's very likely that OpenAI has not made a single cent in profits. As most AI companies, with the exception of hardware companies such as nvidia.

AI is a high capital up front investment, I doubt if it will be profitable for sometime in any case.

Fk these super nerds. Female companion robot whens?

They are already out. The robot is the easy part. Elon is spinning those up now. There are already adult devices controlled by AI. Grok is what you seek. Project Ava also launches this year but that's more videogame focused and a hologram not an android.

 

[Salz01]

Interesting this came down to a statute of limitations ruling. I wonder how the appeal will go?

He can't appeal. Judge already said he can't.

 

[SJRB]

Elon might have lost but this case forced some important private information into the public domain.

Brockman, this super intellectual, this stupid motherfucker kept a personal diary where he wrote dumb shit like "yeah even though this is highly illegal this non profit is going to make me a billionaire".

 

[DrFigs]

Given how expensive AI is to run, I don't understand how a non-profit model would be feasible.

 

[L*][*N*K]

I wonder what kind of mental breakdown he is throwing after this humiliation