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[Fantasy Gate Co.] A story in history: How the Xbox brand destroyed Nintendos Home Console Business and forced them stop stop competing directly.
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DunDunDunpachi
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Neither the NES nor the Game Boy were "competing directly" with the competition if you go by specs. This is nothing new for Nintendo. It's also kind of hilarious how the most successful Xbox generation so far (360) was still beaten by an underpowered Nintendo system.
I do like it when Nintendo competes indirectly. It makes the market more interesting.
I do like it when Nintendo competes indirectly. It makes the market more interesting.
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True. But I see what you were going for. The Wii went on to beat the 360 and ps3 while the switch is currently en route to beat the one.
ThatGamingDude
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How is your business/industry analysis a victory for gaming historians?
Analysis =/= History
Facts (And whom writes them...) = History
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The Wii was cut first (and released last) and the 360 still couldn’t beat it. And while the Wii U was a total bust, the switch has been outselling the one on a monthly basis almost every month for the last two years sometimes as much as 3 to 1 and that’s just in the US.
It almost like positions can change during new generations, strange isn’t it?
Tag is old.DAT title change
Just noticed the tag too (new or old?)
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I'm so glad the mod is marking Fantasy Gate Co. threads for me now so I can make sure click on it for a good laugh. Thanks, mod!
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You got it wrong.
It's all part of the Nintendo strategy, but they are looking for long term results. It's a list of complex steps I'll try to summarise:
1- They establish themselves as an important player in the industry so other companies need to keep an eye on what they are doing.
2- They intentionally make the gamecube fail so Sony gets confident and MS is like "hey, we can actually beat them"
3- Launch the Wii with a focus on casual games and motion controls. The other 2 know they can't compete in this segment so they go for power.
4- Unaware of the negative effects emitted by Bluricine Radiation (a.k.a Bluray Cancer Rays) they launch the Ps3 using a bluray drive and take their first step towards their own destruction.
5- MS is smarter and sticks to DVD, they try to push the much superior and cancer curing HD-DVD. But the general public doesn't know of the Quantum anti-blu tachyons (present in HD-DVD's) and Nintendo is aware of this.
6- Launch a decoy console in the form of the WiiU (which was designed to fail) which uses a high capacity disc (the round edges prevent the Bluricine Radiation but that's for another thread) this makes MS see the market trend for higher capacity disc and they ultimately go with Bluray for the Xb1
7- With Bluray now being used by both of their main competitors, Nintendo now simply has to wait for the Bluricine Radiation to take down Sony and MS internally, as well as their most loyal customers (who we can asume own the most games and have gotten the most exposure to Blurays). The first effects should start any day now
8- Launch their new console which, of course, uses the much healthier cartridge system.
It's all part of the Nintendo strategy, but they are looking for long term results. It's a list of complex steps I'll try to summarise:
1- They establish themselves as an important player in the industry so other companies need to keep an eye on what they are doing.
2- They intentionally make the gamecube fail so Sony gets confident and MS is like "hey, we can actually beat them"
3- Launch the Wii with a focus on casual games and motion controls. The other 2 know they can't compete in this segment so they go for power.
4- Unaware of the negative effects emitted by Bluricine Radiation (a.k.a Bluray Cancer Rays) they launch the Ps3 using a bluray drive and take their first step towards their own destruction.
5- MS is smarter and sticks to DVD, they try to push the much superior and cancer curing HD-DVD. But the general public doesn't know of the Quantum anti-blu tachyons (present in HD-DVD's) and Nintendo is aware of this.
6- Launch a decoy console in the form of the WiiU (which was designed to fail) which uses a high capacity disc (the round edges prevent the Bluricine Radiation but that's for another thread) this makes MS see the market trend for higher capacity disc and they ultimately go with Bluray for the Xb1
7- With Bluray now being used by both of their main competitors, Nintendo now simply has to wait for the Bluricine Radiation to take down Sony and MS internally, as well as their most loyal customers (who we can asume own the most games and have gotten the most exposure to Blurays). The first effects should start any day now
8- Launch their new console which, of course, uses the much healthier cartridge system.
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Insane Metal
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I think it's time to stop posting, OP.
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Vawn
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The next step is stopping you from posting completely.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/poll...the-ps3-overall.1468113/page-2#post-253578419
I called your bias way back.
petran79
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Add some facts at least like this guy, no need to mention sources:
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-The Nintendo GameCube received generally positive reviews following its launch. PC Magazine praised the overall hardware design and quality of game titles available at launch. CNET gave an average review rating, noting that while the console lacks a few features offered by its competition, it is relatively inexpensive, has a great controller design, and launched a decent lineup of games. In later reviews, criticism mounted against the console often centering on its overall look and feel, describing it as “toy-ish.” In the midst of poor sales figures and the associated financial harm to Nintendo, a Time International article called the GameCube an “unmitigated disaster.”
Retrospectively, Joystiq compared the GameCube’s launch window to its successor, the Wii, noting that the GameCube’s “lack of games” resulted in a subpar launch, and the console’s limited selection of online titles hurt its market share in the long run. Time International concluded that the system had low sales figures, because it lacked “technical innovations”.
-Many of Nintendo’s own first-party titles such as Super Smash Bros. Melee and Mario Kart: Double Dash saw strong sales, though this did not typically benefit third-party developers or directly drive sales of their games. Many cross-platform games — such as sports franchises released by Electronic Arts — were sold in numbers far below their PlayStation 2 and Xbox counterparts, eventually prompting some developers to scale back or completely cease support for the GameCube. Exceptions include Sega’s family friendly Sonic Adventure 2 and Super Monkey Ball, which reportedly yielded more sales on GameCube than most of the company’s games on the PlayStation 2 and Xbox. After several years of losing money from developing for Nintendo’s console, Eidos Interactive announced in September 2003 that it would end support for the GameCube, canceling several games that were in development. Later, however, Eidos resumed development of GameCube titles, releasing hit games such as Lego Star Wars: The Video Game and Tomb Raider: Legend. In addition, several third-party games originally intended to be GameCube exclusives – most notably Resident Evil 4 – were eventually ported to other systems in an attempt to maximize profits following lackluster sales of the original GameCube versions.
-Beginning with this period, GameCube sales continued to be steady, particularly in Japan, but the GameCube remained in third place in worldwide sales during the sixth generation era because of weaker sales performance elsewhere.
Some third-party companies, such as Ubisoft, THQ, Disney Interactive Studios, Humongous Entertainment and EA Sports, continued to release GameCube games well into 2007. These titles include TMNT, Meet the Robinsons, Surf’s Up, Ratatouilleand Madden NFL 08.
-With the GameCube, Nintendo failed to reclaim the market share lost by its predecessor, the Nintendo 64. Throughout the lifespan of its console generation, GameCube hardware sales remained far behind its direct competitor the PlayStation 2, and slightly behind Microsoft’s Xbox. The console’s “family-friendly” appeal and lack of support from certain third-party developers skewed the GameCube toward a younger market, which was a minority demographic of the gaming population during the sixth generation. Many third-party games popular with teenagers or adults, such as the blockbuster Grand Theft Auto series and several key first-person shooters, skipped the GameCube entirely in favor of the PlayStation 2 and Xbox.
Nintendo Gamecube (2001-2007)
Commercial Summary The GameCube is a home video game console released by Nintendo in Japan on September 14, 2001; in North America on November 18, 2001; in Europe on May 3, 2002; and in Australia o…
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-The Nintendo GameCube received generally positive reviews following its launch. PC Magazine praised the overall hardware design and quality of game titles available at launch. CNET gave an average review rating, noting that while the console lacks a few features offered by its competition, it is relatively inexpensive, has a great controller design, and launched a decent lineup of games. In later reviews, criticism mounted against the console often centering on its overall look and feel, describing it as “toy-ish.” In the midst of poor sales figures and the associated financial harm to Nintendo, a Time International article called the GameCube an “unmitigated disaster.”
Retrospectively, Joystiq compared the GameCube’s launch window to its successor, the Wii, noting that the GameCube’s “lack of games” resulted in a subpar launch, and the console’s limited selection of online titles hurt its market share in the long run. Time International concluded that the system had low sales figures, because it lacked “technical innovations”.
-Many of Nintendo’s own first-party titles such as Super Smash Bros. Melee and Mario Kart: Double Dash saw strong sales, though this did not typically benefit third-party developers or directly drive sales of their games. Many cross-platform games — such as sports franchises released by Electronic Arts — were sold in numbers far below their PlayStation 2 and Xbox counterparts, eventually prompting some developers to scale back or completely cease support for the GameCube. Exceptions include Sega’s family friendly Sonic Adventure 2 and Super Monkey Ball, which reportedly yielded more sales on GameCube than most of the company’s games on the PlayStation 2 and Xbox. After several years of losing money from developing for Nintendo’s console, Eidos Interactive announced in September 2003 that it would end support for the GameCube, canceling several games that were in development. Later, however, Eidos resumed development of GameCube titles, releasing hit games such as Lego Star Wars: The Video Game and Tomb Raider: Legend. In addition, several third-party games originally intended to be GameCube exclusives – most notably Resident Evil 4 – were eventually ported to other systems in an attempt to maximize profits following lackluster sales of the original GameCube versions.
-Beginning with this period, GameCube sales continued to be steady, particularly in Japan, but the GameCube remained in third place in worldwide sales during the sixth generation era because of weaker sales performance elsewhere.
Some third-party companies, such as Ubisoft, THQ, Disney Interactive Studios, Humongous Entertainment and EA Sports, continued to release GameCube games well into 2007. These titles include TMNT, Meet the Robinsons, Surf’s Up, Ratatouilleand Madden NFL 08.
-With the GameCube, Nintendo failed to reclaim the market share lost by its predecessor, the Nintendo 64. Throughout the lifespan of its console generation, GameCube hardware sales remained far behind its direct competitor the PlayStation 2, and slightly behind Microsoft’s Xbox. The console’s “family-friendly” appeal and lack of support from certain third-party developers skewed the GameCube toward a younger market, which was a minority demographic of the gaming population during the sixth generation. Many third-party games popular with teenagers or adults, such as the blockbuster Grand Theft Auto series and several key first-person shooters, skipped the GameCube entirely in favor of the PlayStation 2 and Xbox.
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Didn’t bother to read. Not sure if a joke or serious post.
Outside North America (US and Canada mainly) XBOX isn’t well received. This is fact.
It’s a Sony and Nintendo world and Microsoft has a small piece of it.
Outside North America (US and Canada mainly) XBOX isn’t well received. This is fact.
It’s a Sony and Nintendo world and Microsoft has a small piece of it.
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CyberPanda
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Animal threesome.
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Unless you really don’t consider the switch current gen, in which it kicked the Wii U’s ass this gen. But that’s arguing semantics.
Vawn
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That's fair. It's easy to forget Wii U is PS4/XB1 gen.
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"How the Xbox brand destroyed Xbox Home Console Business and forced them stop competing directly." is more accurate.
I think Nintendo more directly competing with the mobile game market.
I think Nintendo more directly competing with the mobile game market.
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