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FF7 Remake director says Part 3 will be a conclusion that all fans will love

At this point, keep that shit for yourselves. Story is already fucked. I at least hoped they would have let sephiroth come to his senses and fight along the good guys against a bigger threat, but so far the story is jumble mumble.
 
Considering what they did in the previous parts, I expect something like this: "You remember that final section of the game that was about 5-6 hours of gameplay? But for you we stretched it out to 45 hours, decorating it by mini-games for every taste."
 
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Fbh said:
I've liked the visuals, gameplay and music in these remake games.
But what they've done with the story sucks. In Rebirth they took what's arguably one of the most iconic story moments in gaming and turned it into some convoluted Nomura style crap.
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Thank fuck for saving me typing, 100% this.

Now give me a proper FF7 remaster.
 
I'll buy it when they will rework all 3 parts into single finished game and call it remake. Cause FF7 remake wasn't fucking remake it was 1/3 of it.
 
If I don't love it, maybe they can send IRL time ghosts at me and change how the story goes until I do.
 
They've changed so much stuff, added so much filler, and overcomplicated everything with this trilogy being some pseudo-sequel bullshit that when it's all over, the original PS1 game will still be the only way to properly experience FF7. What a fucking waste of a remake.
 
lol Square Enix

They have zero quality control on their stories. No self-awareness whatsoever. It has been an issue ever since Sakaguchi left and it only got worse. FF7R is a dumpster fire.
 
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That pretty much seems to be the prevailing theory at the moment, except technically Zack and Aerith are 'dead'. But being dead seems to be functionally no different to being alive anyway so who cares
 
MagiusNecros said:
Very much so. I doubt we will even deal with Cloud's Psychosis on the level that the OG did. A lot of stuff even with the Temple of the Ancients was very subdued and watered down.

A problem with this trilogy is it's overly positive nature whereas FF7 OG was a dark story that had light moments peppered throughout the adventure. It was a very bleak atmosphere with moments of warmth and hope. A lot of the original direction has been lost.

Not really sure what direction they are trying to take.
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This has to be a joke right? The remake games have gone more in depth into Cloud's mental illness than the OG game ever did, and Sephiroth's far more relentless at gaslighting him this time around. Cloud repressing Aerith's death at the end of Rebirth is just further evidence that they'll double down on showing how broken his mind is.
 
If that's what is even happening. The waters are so muddied by the new pseudo-sequel elements that it's anyone's guess what the end of Rebirth is attempting to show.
 
TaciturnWolf said:
This has to be a joke right? The remake games have gone more in depth into Cloud's mental illness than the OG game ever did, and Sephiroth's far more relentless at gaslighting him this time around. Cloud repressing Aerith's death at the end of Rebirth is just further evidence that they'll double down on showing how broken his mind is.
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You'd think the party would call him out on it instead of flat out ignoring it...meanwhile calling out Cait Sith at the first sign of betrayal. Poor writing. A bit disappointing Temple of the Ancients doesn't showcase how broken Cloud really is when he beats the crap out of Aerith in the OG. You can handwave this away with it being a different parallel timeline/universe. You already see multiple with Zack.

Sephiroth is really only encountered twice so far in Remake/Rebirth. The rest is all Jenova. This is much easier to figure out if you use the JP VA and translation and discern appearances that use "Watashi" or "Ore". Both flashback and future "End of Time" Sephiroth use Watashi. However current day Sephiroth uses Ore. Big distinction.

If they are to remain true to the story then I would expect high doses of Wheelchair Cloud....however the plot is looking to deviate heavily since Cloud has infused his sword with the Black Materia and he might have his own villain arc.
 
Esppiral said:
Let me guess, you haven't played the remake have you?
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I did actually. The story's still following the same core beats. It's pretty clear it's all leading back to the original story in the end just with a meta detour.
 
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"All" the fans?

Fuck off bud.

FFVII is still my second all time favourite game (shy of Xenogears), but this remake farce, whilst a fun game and homage generally, is a nasty, bloated apocryphal mess that adds nothing of any value to the actual story, and instead takes away from it with the stupid, confused, messy multiverse nonsense.

Which itself is made worse by the fact that it seems to assume that you know and have played the previous game, as if you didn't and came into this remake fresh, you'd have no idea what the canonical plot was and the way it unfolds here just confuses and doesn't help articulate that at all.

Rebirth really fucked up Cloud as a character too.

I'm interested to play the next one as a game because the gameplay's solid. But as a story, it's going to be another cringy bloated mess.
 
Aressa said:
I did actually. The story's still following the same core beats. It's pretty clear it's all leading back to the original story in the end just with a meta detour.
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Can we reconcile this with introducing and then defeating the fate police as the new climax of act one? Just insanely bad storytelling? Lack of a clear direction from the beginning of the project?
 
As soon as I read 'an ending that ALL fans will love', I knew I wouldn't.

Then again, here on gaf, it seems like a three-way would probably do it.
 
Hopefully they play the final stretch more straight, and to the original game. Probably a bit hard with all the crazy bullshit added, but it's still possible. I don't hate the changes as much as a lot of people here. The core beats are still retained. FF7s Visual identity and sound are absolutely pristine. They nailed that with flying colours.

Part 3 should be shorter and better paced than the previous two parts.
 
I think this statement actually underscores the entire problem with how certain elements of the remake series have been handled. Pleasing all of the fans is an impossibility, because they aren't all going to want the same things, even to the point of some of their wishes being mutually exclusive. Trying to craft a story that pleases everyone leads to an unwillingness to fully embrace to a single creative vision, which is ultimately going to cause things to feel half-baked or noncommittal, like Zack just kind of spinning his wheels in Midgar for 95% of Rebirth or the ambiguous nature of Aerith's "death".

Pleasing all fans should not be the primary goal. Make the story be well-written and compelling, and most people will probably like it anyway.
 
Love the original, but them making changes and giving us an alternate reality / parallel universe, while having a story reason to unify them, is exactly what I wanted.

Keep it up Square :messenger_bicep::messenger_heart:
 
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