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Google Cloud Servers VS Microsoft Azure Servers

CyberPanda

CyberPanda

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Now, I know cloud gaming has been a heated topic on GAF in the last couple of days, but how the heck is Google going to get Stadia to a mass market potential if this is all the cloud servers they have?

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https://www.google.com/about/datacenters/inside/locations/index.html

MS on the other hand has more data centres, and is also providing a dedicated gaming box. So, as of now MS has the advantage over Google by far IMO in regards to gaming.

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Rhazer Fusion

Rhazer Fusion

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Stronger and more proficient servers perhaps? I honestly don’t know. I think what Google is promising is near impossible, but maybe I will be proven wrong. High end PCs struggle to hit 4K 60fps, so what kind of wizardry is Google conjuring up?
 
Truespeed

Truespeed

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I only count 8 zones for Microsoft while Google has 58 of them.

https://cloud.google.com/about/locations/

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Their Edge Network is how they connect with ISPs to get traffic to and from users and I don't think anyone is even close to the number of network edge locations that Google has.

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Google Fiber Network

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lynux3

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DeepEnigma said:
Sony uses a combination of AWS:

https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/seller-profile?id=2496da6b-2342-41cd-9715-d58abd270a34

And OpenStack:

https://www.networkworld.com/articl...oves-some-services-from-aws-to-openstack.html

Which was co-founded by Rackspace and NASA.
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Sony Interactive Entertainment has since moved on from Rackspace, but some of Sony's other divisions remain there. I'm not even sure they use OpenStack anymore, and if they do it's at some colo setup in an AWS DC or leased space in another DC. I believe they are now mostly exclusively using AWS and then leasing space anywhere they need in order to service their userbase.
 
DeepEnigma

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lynux3 said:
Sony Interactive Entertainment has since moved on from Rackspace, but some of Sony's other divisions remain there. I'm not even sure they use OpenStack anymore, and if they do it's at some colo setup in an AWS DC or leased space in another DC. I believe they are now mostly exclusively using AWS and then leasing space anywhere they need in order to service their userbase.
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Do you have any information on this? I would be interested in reading it.
 
Lanrutcon

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epicnemesis said:
Poor Africa :(
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So when we kick your ass in an online game, you need to feel twice as bad.

It's worth noting that MS only opened their Azure Data Center this year (there was a delay). I live relatively close to it, should have a great ping but I don't own an XBox. Meanwhile, Google is nowhere to be found.
 
Lort

Lort

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Google Edge serves and cloudflare servers are just caching web servers.. they cant serve games or gaming infrastructure. Google was being very deceptive showing the picture of edge serves in their launch video.
 
ZywyPL

ZywyPL

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epicnemesis said:
Poor Africa :(
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LMAO my 1st thought exactly.



This is where all the input lag on Stadia comes from - lack of data centers across the globe. Many people here mislead connection speed with latency, but for example, a 10MB/s with 30ms lag is MUCH better than 100MB/s with 80ms lag, and lags come directly from the distance to the desired server. Amazon looks the worse from the bunch with those data centers concentrated in just four areas, good luck with that for real.


Larogue said:
CloudFlare is the real deal

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Impressive AF, that's how it's done. But then again, even the best hardware without proper software backup means completely nothing. It's like VR, where you can buy goggles from multiple producers, with different specs, in different price range et.c., but all of them still lack proper games support, hence nobody is interested in it and it's basically dead.
 
CeeJay

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Lort said:
Google Edge serves and cloudflare servers are just caching web servers.. they cant serve games or gaming infrastructure. Google was being very deceptive showing the picture of edge serves in their launch video.
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Yep, it's all very confusing to get a decent picture of who actually has the best cloud infrastructure. And even that question is highly subjective depending on the use case.
 
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KlickKlack

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server # gaming servers

You map pictures with the data centers are worth noting.
MS is building new gaming server infrastructure on the basis of xbox.
No one know how big it is today, same with Google.
 
ANIMAL1975

ANIMAL1975

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lynux3 said:
Sony Interactive Entertainment has since moved on from Rackspace, but some of Sony's other divisions remain there. I'm not even sure they use OpenStack anymore, and if they do it's at some colo setup in an AWS DC or leased space in another DC. I believe they are now mostly exclusively using AWS and then leasing space anywhere they need in order to service their userbase.
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Thank you, do you know if Sony also acquired data centers with the Gaikai and OnLive buy out?
 
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Shin

Shin

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Cloud services is more along the lines to Microsoft's core business, where else advertising is Google's bread and butter.
Both companies are expanding in the Netherlands by building new DC's in the Northern part of the country.
 
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lynux3

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DeepEnigma said:
Do you have any information on this? I would be interested in reading it.
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Nothing public, sorry. It's very rare that a company announces that they're migrating from one hosting company to another, but it's been done before.
ANIMAL1975 said:
Thank you, do you know if Sony also acquired data centers with the Gaikai and OnLive buy out?
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As far as I know, whatever Gaikai was leasing or owned was acquired by Sony and regarding OnLive I believe Sony just picked up their patented technology.
 
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Three

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CurryPanda said:
Now, I know cloud gaming has been a heated topic on GAF in the last couple of days, but how the heck is Google going to get Stadia to a mass market potential if this is all the cloud servers they have?

google-cloud-data-center-locations-19.png


https://www.google.com/about/datacenters/inside/locations/index.html

MS on the other hand has more data centres, and is also providing a dedicated gaming box. So, as of now MS has the advantage over Google by far IMO in regards to gaming.

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Those images are their major data centres linked globally by fibre. They do not provide the whole picture though.

This is from the presentation:
 
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Lanrutcon

Lanrutcon

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Three said:
Those images are their major data centres linked globally by fibre. They do not provide the whole picture though.

This is from the presentation:
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That picture is highly questionable. What do the dots represent? What are those dots in Africa? They aren't Google DCs, according to Google. http://www.gcping.com/ says my requests are going to London and I'm on the south tip of Africa.
 
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Three

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Lanrutcon said:
That picture is highly questionable. What do the dots represent? What are those dots in Africa? They aren't Google DCs, according to Google. http://www.gcping.com/ says my requests are going to London and I'm on the south tip of Africa.
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It is. It's their edge nodes but it all depends on where they have their actual Stadia servers for each region.

https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure
MS and Google having a data centre in these regions means nothing. Having datacentres in Eastern Europe will not mean stadia or xCloud servers are available at those locations. In fact I don't think they have immediate plans to provide the service in some of the countries they have datacenters in. It will likely be US sites only for some time.
 
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