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Jacko just keeps getting weirder

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android

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Anyone see the Cory Feldman interview? He said Jacko asked him if he had Playboy's and Penthouses at his house(Cory's) when thirteen and he had asked Jakson to stay at his house. Feldman also says Wacko had a book of venereal disease's, with explicit pics, on the coffee table and they looked at it together and then discussed it.
 
FoneBone said:
Does anything surprise anyone about MJ at this point?
On the witness stand, Michael Jackson will tear off his face and reveal to the world that he is a robot. A pedophiliac robot. This would also nicely explain the moonwalk. Watch for this to happen.
 

android

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He'll just go into hiding in France if the trial starts to get away from him.
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King Jippo said:
On the witness stand, Michael Jackson will tear off his face and reveal to the world that he is a robot. A pedophiliac robot. This would also nicely explain the moonwalk. Watch for this to happen.
Will he morph into a car and a spaceship, too? 'Cause that would kick ass.
 

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android said:
Feldman also says Wacko had a book of venereal disease's, with explicit pics, on the coffee table and they looked at it together and then discussed it.

well, this could have been taken out of context. if it was discussed, i dont see how it could be that bad, other than: it should have been his parents giving the lecture.
 

android

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quadriplegicjon said:
well, this could have been taken out of context. if it was discussed, i dont see how it could be that bad, other than: it should have been his parents giving the lecture.

A grown man shouldn't be showing pictures of naked adults with venereal diseases to a youth. period
 
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"I am done with michael Man!......you see michael go to Court, motha fucka comes to court 20 minutes late......What kinda black man gonna come to court 20 minutes late? .... this aint barbershop 2!.....this is court motha fucka!......and he dont even wear a real suit to Court.....coming in there looking like Captain Crunch"
 

android

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Hammy said:
Tell that to the health/sex education teachers. :lol

If I had kids and I found out a health/sex education teachers had my child over to their house where they showed them that stuff, I would hurt that person, regardless of their career. There's a time and a place for that stuff.
 
Fixed2BeBroken said:
chris-rock02.jpg


"I am done with michael Man!......you see michael go to Court, motha fucka comes to court 20 minutes late......What kinda black man gonna come to court 20 minutes late? .... this aint barbershop 2!.....this is court motha fucka!......and he dont even wear a real suit to Court.....coming in there looking like Captain Crunch"
:lol
 
Ninja Scooter said:
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Agreed.

It amazes me that Woody Allen or Roman Polanski don't get their share of criticism either. Now they're part of acceptable Hollywood society.
 
The thing is Cory Feldman has also gone on record even just a few months ago on Larry King Live and said Michael never ever did anything inappropriate physically with him nor did he witness anything like that, even though they had a big falling out in 2001.

Showing off venerial disease pictures, yeah that's strange, but Feldman was like 14 then and I don't think anyone would say Michael has the greatest of judgement.
 

android

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Fresh Prince said:
Agreed.

It amazes me that Woody Allen or Roman Polanski don't get their share of criticism either. Now they're part of acceptable Hollywood society.
Technically. Polanski on the other hand is not allowed to enter the US. And Woody Allen is just such a precious little guy, who would ever convict him. :)

The thing is Cory Feldman has also gone on record even just a few months ago on Larry King Live and said Michael never ever did anything inappropriate physically with him nor did he witness anything like that, even though they had a big falling out in 2001.

I bet it comes out he was molested if Jackson is convicted. It seems to me like he is working up the courage to admit it.
 
soundwave05 said:
Showing off venerial disease pictures, yeah that's strange, but Feldman was like 14 then and I don't think anyone would say Michael has the greatest of judgement.

Cory Feldman was also a cocaine addict at 14...he may be imagining things.
 

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android said:
If I had kids and I found out a health/sex education teachers had my child over to their house where they showed them that stuff, I would hurt that person, regardless of their career. There's a time and a place for that stuff.

like i said, we really dont know the context as to which it was shown. were corey's parents really a part of his life? did corey say or do things which gave MJ the impression that he should do something about it? we really dont know. MJ is a weird guy.. and if he did molest those kids, i hope he rots in jail.. but this is something that can easily be taken out of context, and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 

android

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quadriplegicjon said:
like i said, we really dont know the context as to which it was shown. were corey's parents really a part of his life? did corey say or do things which gave MJ the impression that he should do something about it? we really dont know. MJ is a weird guy.. and if he did molest those kids, i hope he rots in jail.. but this is something that can easily be taken out of context, and is not necessarily a bad thing.
Wrong. A grown man, any grown man showing pictures of genitals to a pre-teen, outside of a doctor or parent, is wrong. And even the parent/doctor example has boundaries on this.
This doesn't mean he molested Feldmen, but it does mean he is very screwed up in the head. Put it in the perspective of your own children (if you have). If your thirteen year old son said a grown man showed him lewd pictures, medical or pornographic, you'd hunt him down. The state of Corey's parental bonds or his curiousity in regards to sex, are no excuse for that behavior. If a child asked me about that sort of thing i'd involve his parents or a doctor. I won't take it upon myself to teach them.
And now Feldman said it troubles him that the same showing of pornographic images allegation has happened with the new boy, who does claim to be molested.
 
but this is something that can easily be taken out of context

No, it can't. A 30 something year old man with textbook pedophilia tendencies is showing graphic pictures of diseased genitalia (that he happened to have lying around the house) to an 8th grader. Just try and make that situation seem normal and healthy.
 

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android said:
Wrong. A grown man, any grown man showing pictures of genitals to a pre-teen, outside of a doctor or parent, is wrong. And even the parent/doctor example has boundaries on this.
This doesn't mean he molested Feldmen, but it does mean he is very screwed up in the head. Put it in the perspective of your own children (if you have). If your thirteen year old son said a grown man showed him lewd pictures, medical or pornographic, you'd hunt him down. The state of Corey's parental bonds or his curiousity in regards to sex, are no excuse for that behavior. If a child asked me about that sort of thing i'd involve his parents or a doctor. I won't take it upon myself to teach them.
And know Feldman said it troubles him that the same showing of pornographic images allegation has happened with the new boy, who does claim to be molested.

what if corey's parents were nowhere to be seen. what if MJ was basically his guardian.. what if corey was constantly on drugs and extremely promiscuous ... what if MJ saw this and tried to contact his parents about it.. what if those parents did nothing, and MJ saw corey's behavior continuing to degrade ? ??

im not saying this is what occurred, but i really feel strongly about not judging someone without knowing all the facts.
 

android

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Here a recap of the interview. Even Feldman says it is extremely distrubing and worrying and he claims he wasn't molested.
In the interview with Bashir - whose documentary LIVING WITH MICHAEL JACKSON helped spark the investigation against the pop star - Bashir asks, "Were you ever shown any images that were inappropriate?"
Feldman responds, "If you consider it inappropriate for a man to look at a book of naked pictures with a child that's 13 or 14 years old, then your answer would be yes."

One example, Feldman says, is that Jackson had a book on his coffee table about "venereal diseases and the genitalia" which the singer would show him pictures in and "discuss what those meant".

He adds, "I was kind of grossed out by it. I didn't think of it as a big deal. And for all these years, I probably never thought twice about it. But in light of recent evidence, I have to say that if my son was 14-years-old, 13-years-old, and went to a man's apartment, and I knew that they were sitting down together talking about this, I would probably beat his ass."
 

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Nintendo Ate My Children said:
(that he happened to have lying around the house) .

it could be that it happened to be lying around the house.. or it could be that he placed it there in order to confront corey about certain issues.

it could be that jackson is a nasty molester .. or it could be that these are false accusations.

it could be that corey's memories have been slightly warped due to time and drug play.. or it could be that this is exactly how it happened.

many things could be.

i still say, dont judge, unless all facts are known.
 

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quadriplegicjon said:
it could be that it happened to be lying around the house.. or it could be that he placed it there in order to confront corey about certain issues.

it could be that jackson is a nasty molester .. or it could be that these are false accusations.

it could be that corey's memories have been slightly warped due to time and drug play.. or it could be that this is exactly how it happened.

many things could be.

i still say, dont judge, unless all facts are known.

I'm not sure which comedian said this (I think it was Chris Rock, but not 100% sure), but having ANOTHER kid accuse Michael is like finding ANOTHER dead white woman at OJ's house.
 
i still say, dont judge, unless all facts are known.

Which will be never, unless Jackson cracks and spills his guts, or the many accusers admit they're all lying. This is a "he said, he said" case and you have to decide who you believe based on the evidence. Given the many, many, many signs that point to Jackson being a serial pedophile, I'm going with him being guilty.

Also, let's not forget the difference between being judgemental and having good judgement. One is bad, the other is absolutely necessary. If you want to argue in his behalf on an message board in the interest of fairness and all that fine, but I would hope you wouldn't let your kids (if you had any) hang around with someone like him because "all the facts aren't known yet."
 

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Nintendo Ate My Children said:
Which will be never, unless Jackson cracks and spills his guts, or the many accusers admit they're all lying. This is a "he said, he said" case and you have to decide who you believe based on the evidence. Given the many, many, many signs that point to Jackson being a serial pedophile, I'm going with him being guilty.

Also, let's not forget the difference between being judgemental and having good judgement. One is bad, the other is absolutely necessary. If you want to argue in his behalf on an message board in the interest of fairness and all that fine, but I would hope you wouldn't let your kids (if you had any) hang around with someone like him because "all the facts aren't known yet."

okay. first of all, im not defending him at all. im not defending him against all his accusations. all i noted was that this little tidbit wasnt necessarily bad, and could have been easily taken out of context (from memory)

also, any known 'facts' are coming to us from the media. the media (especially Bashir, but thats a whole other discussion) is extremely biased, and loves to play with 'facts' .

its definitely a 'he said', 'she said' but the only people that will be hearing the 'facts' will be those in the jury. i know first hand how a false accusation can really fuck someone up (a good friend of mine).. there were even supposed facts known (thanks to a newspaper).. which later turned out to be false.. it was too late by then.

and who in their right mind would let their kids be alone with an accused child molester?

im slightly offended that you stoop so low as to call me ignorant.
 
Nintendo Ate My Children said:
If you want to argue in his behalf on an message board in the interest of fairness and all that fine, but I would hope you wouldn't let your kids (if you had any) hang around with someone like him because "all the facts aren't known yet."

Law is the law and I for one will let the law do it's job. I don't see why anyone would allow their children stay with any adult. It doesn't have to be some one "like him" for me to think that.
 
I would say I'd have to hear the full evidence presented in a court of law before I make up my mind.

I mean the accuser's mother also has a past history of using her son's illness to try and extort money from a radio station.

And these charges only sprung up after the Martin Bashir interview. Which makes some of the timelines a bit less plausible. I mean even if Jackson was a pedophile, after all the backlash from the Bashir interview, would then proceed to molest that one kid in the interview that caused so much scrutiny?

People have a strong motive to claim child abuse because they know Jackson is extremely wealthy and an odd-ball persona.

So I wouldn't say this is exactly a shut and closed kind of case.

I would say there are lots of question marks that both the defense and the prosecution will have to account for.
 

android

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soundwave05 said:
I mean the accuser's mother also has a past history of using her son's illness to try and extort money from a radio station.
And these charges only sprung up after the Martin Bashir interview. Which makes some of the timelines a bit less plausible. I mean even if Jackson was a pedophile, after all the backlash from the Bashir interview, would then proceed to molest that one kid in the interview that caused so much scrutiny?
Yeah and let's just forget the other two children(that we know of) who he paid off and the fact that a former loyal supporter in Feldman is changing his mind about what he thinks. I personally think Jackson might have the mind of a child and thinks these children are equals and therefore views it as sex rather than molestation, but that's wrong.
The child's mother has no bearing on this. Her actions prove this. She didn't ask for a payout. She went to the police. Jackson could have paid her secretly and no one would have known. It was well known he was making hush payments. A person who has been truly wronged(or someone they love has) wants justice not payment. They want the person behind bars. Then, like the Goldman's in the OJ trial, they go after finiancial means.
She went to the police rather than the lawsuit route. This shows she believes her son, to submit him and her and the siblings to scurtiny and embarassment.
 
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