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MAGFest 2018 Hotel Reservation Shitshow - Or, when does a con get too big?

ASaiyan

Banned
It's not a con, it's a fest! I know.
Apologies if there's already a MAGFest thread; I can't tell because GAF's search function is still not working for me (off-topic, is anyone else having this problem?). I also wasn't sure if this was "gaming-related" or OT, so if a mod feels like this is in the wrong place feel free to move it.

MAGFest ("Music and Gaming Festival") is pretty much the best gaming convention ever conceived, and is held every winter in National Harbor, Maryland, USA. The big differentiator of MAGFest from other cons is that in addition to having cool merch, indie developers showcasing their titles, and panels from big names in the gaming industry, there is also a big focus on musical performances - from some of the biggest names in the 'game music' field, such as The Protomen, Mega Ran, Nobuo Uematsu, etc. Basically, it's like a regular con mixed with Glastonbury/Coachella/Insert Other Music Festival here, only smaller.

At least, it used to be smaller.

That MAGFest has been ballooning in size is no surprise to anyone. The event used to be held in a small hotel in Alexandria before moving to the massive, $900 million Gaylord Hotel & Convention Center across the bridge in Maryland. Weekend passes hit the 20,000 attendee cap and sold out last year (although not until like the first day of the convention proper iirc). And of course, this should be expected and even welcomed; after all, a "secret" as good as MAGFest wouldn't stay low-key for long, right?

Enter MAGFest 2018. MAGFest Inc. (the group running the show) announced for the first time that reservations for all MAGFest-area hotels would not be immediately available when passes went live (in addition to the price of said passes going up ~$20 again). Instead, they would roll out a "system" for bookings soon thereafter. Despite being an extremely pricey hotel, rooms at the Gaylord did always sell out for MAGFest weekend - but only two or three weeks after they were made available. And even then, stuff like the crappy Holiday Inn two miles away never ever sold out. So it seemed like they were trying to solve a problem that didn't exist. But okay, whatever.

Weeks go by, stone silence. Emails saying they'll let everyone know when they've decided when the booking site will go up with another email, but still nothing. All of this, of course, is useless communication that can only overhype the booking process and cause people to panic-buy rooms early when they otherwise wouldn't. But okay.

Last week, we finally get word: bookings will be live at 7PM EDT on Tuesday, October 17th for those who pre-registered (e.g., me), and two days later for everyone else. Click this link and wait and then at 7PM we will start randomly letting people through to reserve rooms at area hotels. Wait, what? There's a "line"? And a lottery system to determine who goes first? Something is starting to feel off here; there has literally never been a need for such rationing before. But okay, this is their first time doing this, and maybe the server infrastructure just sucks. Don't want the site to crash, or whatever.

I'm on the page at 6:45, waiting. 7:01 PM comes. Nothing. 7:20 passes by, still nothing. Uhh, what's going on? At 7:35, my spot in line finally comes up, and there are no rooms left available. Yes, you read that right. Every single blessed room in every hotel in the whole area sold out for that weekend in half an hour, with people being randomly let through one at a time. This is like a SNES Classic situation, but for $200/night hotel rooms.

Understandably, a very large number of people did not get a room at all as well, and are currently fuming about it on Twitter (complete with ironic screenshots direct from MAGFest.org that "we won't sell out of rooms", underline theirs). Surprise surprise, no word from them yet. People on the official subreddit are sadly selling their passes because they don't live in the area and have no feasible way to attend the con now. And, somehow, some idiot got my university's wifi IP banned from the official MAG forums, but I have to imagine there is a similar response there as well.

I have gone to MAGFest three years running, but never had the money to stay anywhere near the actual event. It has always been a last-ditch type thing, getting a room at a Red Roof Inn several miles away, or even directly commuting back-and-forth from my university (until they changed the dates to avoid PAX South and it no longer fell during classes). This is my last year at school in the area, however, and a particular circumstance happened to me that changed things; a relative died and left me $1,000, with the express wish that it be "spent frivolously". After thinking about it a while I decided what I do: go out with a bang and spend my final MAGFest at the Gaylord proper. That hotel is worth the combined economic output of my hometown several dozens of times over, and the first year I went there I spent several hours just sitting there marveling at the difference in wealth between it and me. It is literally magical being in there. I never thought an almost $600 weekend at a hotel in Maryland in January would be a scarce resource; but here we are.

Yet as I sit here hate-typing this summary of events, I realize that it is not merely about me or about the others who got screwed over by this poor handling, but about the logistics of running and scaling a convention in general. Everyone complains about PAX, for example - how it's so crowded, the lines take forever, people smell, etc. - but it is also highly well-run and administered logistically and people get out of it pretty much what they expect. You can have a small, intimate con like MAGFest used to be - but what happens when demand grows exponentially and your small volunteer team is sent out of their depth, like what happened here? Do you start paying people money and form a for-profit entity? Get help from sponsors/other events? I know people who were really upset when NY Anime Fest got absorbed by Comic Con - but the Anime Fest organizers were never quite up to demand, even literally having the event closed by fire marshalls their first time. And Comic Con, to my knowledge, never has these types of problems.

tl;dr - What do you do when a convention gets "too big"? Pass it off to someone else who can handle it? Split it up into smaller events? Is there a solution that would be acceptable to all/most stakeholders?
 

Akinola

Member
Unless more hotels are built, it's a matter of math.

PAX East attendance = 80k (boston is a bigger metropolis than National Harbor. This means more hotels and more possibilities for AirBnBs

MAGFest 2017 attendance = 20k. National Harbor is a dwarf stay compared to Boston. The Gaylord holds 2100 rooms. There are 5 main hotels. You are talking about half the registrants being able to attend at best.

I don't know how many years MAGfest has contracted out with National harbor (I love that place) but I would imagine it might be time for them to move to a more metropolitan area in the coming years.
 

kuYuri

Member
MAGFest 2017 was when I decided it would be my final MAGFest. I actually visited MAGFest first in 2012 then 2013. Back then, we easily got rooms in the Gaylord, although I had to share it with friends. Skipped the next two cause I couldn't afford it at the time, but went to 2016 and 2017 cause I had money again. It was 2016 I started to notice how much bigger it had gotten since 2013. As you said, I knew it was inevitable that it would get bigger, but I didn't expect it to happen so soon. As a result, it's lost it's luster for me. As soon as hotels sold out within the hour last year and I couldn't get a room in the Gaylord, that's when I knew it was time to let it go. I only ended up going to this year's because I was very lucky enough to find an affordable room at the nearby Wyndham Hotel . It was better this way tbh, because not only was the room fairly cheap, it was bigger than the average Gaylord hotel room and I had it all to myself.

But still, after going this year, I just didn't feel as excited or had as much fun as I did back then (though the reasons for this are a little more complicated). It's lost that "indie" feel to me, which was the biggest part of its appeal. But for the event to grow, I understand that it's totally necessary. Still, I had some good memories from it.
 

Koomaster

Member
Okay I read through the OP but I still don't understand the hotel situation. Does Magfest just buy up every single room in the hotel for the duration of the event and then I guess sublet the rooms out to con goers?

Otherwise I don't know what is preventing people from immediately booking a room as soon as you know the dates of the con. Why wait for when Magfest says you can buy rooms?
 

zelas

Member
Saw a friend bitching about this on facebook earlier. It's funny how all these issues start to popup once a con gets years under its belt and starts charging close to $100. Greed and incompetence. Know your limits.
 

ASaiyan

Banned
Okay I read through the OP but I still don't understand the hotel situation. Does Magfest just buy up every single room in the hotel for the duration of the event and then I guess sublet the rooms out to con goers?
This is precisely what happens, yes. They buy up every single room in the Gaylord for the weekend, as well as substantial numbers of rooms in the other nearby hotels. Their rationale for doing this is that they resell them to attendees at 'discounted rates'. However, it's a 100% discount if I can't even get one of their rooms, lol. And I suspect the few 'undiscounted' rooms at the hotels in question were probably already purchased in a panic soon after this shitshow revealed itself.
 
Okay I read through the OP but I still don't understand the hotel situation. Does Magfest just buy up every single room in the hotel for the duration of the event and then I guess sublet the rooms out to con goers?

Otherwise I don't know what is preventing people from immediately booking a room as soon as you know the dates of the con. Why wait for when Magfest says you can buy rooms?

Yes, generally speaking conventions will buy up rooms at the neighboring hotels for attendees. Depending on the size of the cons, it's not usually the entire hotel, though.
 

zelas

Member
Okay I read through the OP but I still don't understand the hotel situation. Does Magfest just buy up every single room in the hotel for the duration of the event and then I guess sublet the rooms out to con goers?

Otherwise I don't know what is preventing people from immediately booking a room as soon as you know the dates of the con. Why wait for when Magfest says you can buy rooms?

People were trying to get into the limited discounted rooms. You could have booked outside of that, but at higher prices.

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