Support NeoGAF

[videogamedude]

 

[Same ol G]

Dunno. I upgraded Kirby and my only Virtual Card is for the Switch 2 version.

I just tried, it's not possible the dlc is shown separate from the game but it's impossible to load or unload them seperately.
I'm sorry man, i'm afraid you have to deal with it.

 

[BlackTron]

No, I mean if you on the game digitally and buy the upgrade path, there doesn't appear to be a way to run the original Switch 1 version (non-upgraded) on your Switch 2. So if you are unhappy with the upscaling noise this upgrade introduced, you are stuck with it. It would be akin to running the PS4 version of Elden Ring on your PS5 for best performance at the sacrifice of visuals or Steam's/GoG's version history allowing you to play on a previous patch version of a game should the latest patch introduce issues.

Oh, I see what you mean. If you buy the upgrade pack, it might be possible to set it not to install by finding it's eshop page and pressing + or - five times in a row.

I've used this to successfully tell DLCs not to install alongside a base game in the past.

 

[manfestival]

Just bought this game the other day and also found out about this patch but sounds like it is a waste of money.... so just save my sheckles then?

 

[bender]

Oh, I see what you mean. If you buy the upgrade pack, it might be possible to set it not to install by finding it's eshop page and pressing + or - five times in a row.

I've used this to successfully tell DLCs not to install alongside a base game in the past.

For Kirby, the eShop Switch 1 version directs you to "Virtual Game Cards".

 

[Roman Empire]

I almost bought the upgrade on friday. Good thing I forgot it.

 

[BlackTron]

For Kirby, the eShop Switch 1 version directs you to "Virtual Game Cards".

That's a digital license issue, your Kirby game is "loaded" on your other system. Which would happen regardless of whether you got the Switch 2 upgrade for it. You have to switch the virtual game card back to your Switch 1, to play the base game there.

It might be possible to play the S1 version on S2, by going to the $20 DLC upgrade page, and pressing - or + 5 times there.

Edit: If you bought the game as a Switch 2 edition, it's probably not possible to do that though

 

[RobRSG]

I played it docked for a few hours, and didn't notice crazy stuff happening with it. I will try handheld mode to check how bad are the issues.

 

[bender]

That's a digital license issue, your Kirby game is "loaded" on your other system. Which would happen regardless of whether you got the Switch 2 upgrade for it. You have to switch the virtual game card back to your Switch 1, to play the base game there.

It might be possible to play the S1 version on S2, by going to the $20 DLC upgrade page, and pressing - or + 5 times there.

Nope. I don't even have a Switch 1 anymore, it was factory reset after I system transferred to my Switch 2. Theoretically, you could have never had a Switch 1, purchased Kirby or Xenoblade on the eShop before upgrades were available, upgraded, and have lost access to those non-upgraded versions.

 

[BlackTron]

Nope. I don't even have a Switch 1 anymore, it was factory reset after I system transferred to my Switch 2. Theoretically, you could have never had a Switch 1, purchased Kirby or Xenoblade on the eShop before upgrades were available, upgraded, and have lost access to those non-upgraded versions.

Something seems off here. In your screenshot it says the game isn't loaded on any system...checks out...and gives you the option to load it on your system...so why not do that?

Well for one thing...it's not the Switch 1 version of the game...it looks like the Switch 2 Edition. If you had the Switch 1 game first, you should be able to go into the eshop, navigate to the $20 upgrade pack and turn it off.

 

[Hudo]

They are known for shitty image quality (especially handheld) and never fixing it. XB2's over sharpened look is pretty much iconic at this point.

Fair, but XB2 still punched above its weight, imho. They did, however, pay for that by sacrificing image quality. But to me, that always seemed like a deliberate trade-off. The technical state of Xenoblade X' Switch 2 Edition seems like a hack job.

 

[bender]

Something seems off here. In your screenshot it says the game isn't loaded on any system...checks out...and gives you the option to load it on your system...so why not do that?

Well for one thing...it's not the Switch 1 version of the game...it looks like the Switch 2 Edition. If you had the Switch 1 game first, you should be able to go into the eshop, navigate to the $20 upgrade pack and turn it off.

I bought the game digitally on the Switch 1, I bought the upgrade on the Switch 2. There is no option to download the original version. That's the point. Thankfully, I didn't pull the trigger on the XCX upgrade because I'd be trapped in the upgraded version and might prefer the original version because it lacks the upscaling noise of the upgrade.

 

[polybius80]

 

[mèx]

Fixed it for you with a good and technically solid AI upscaling method.

 

[BlackTron]

I bought the game digitally on the Switch 1, I bought the upgrade on the Switch 2. There is no option to download the original version. That's the point. Thankfully, I didn't pull the trigger on the XCX upgrade because I'd be trapped in the upgraded version and might prefer the original version because it lacks the upscaling noise of the upgrade.

So you can't find the download page for the base game on the eshop? Edit: I still think you should try setting the Switch 2 content not to install, THEN install the game even if it's the *named* the 2 version!

 

[Signalis]

Digital Foundry talking about the problem (timestamp).

I've said it many times and I'll say it again. Why does DF always choose thumbnails that look like mugshots of convicted pedophiles

 

[CowboyLou]

I've said it many times and I'll say it again. Why does DF always choose thumbnails that look like mugshots of convicted pedophiles

Do you really think, for example, a GAF meetup would look much different?

 

[Signalis]

Do you really think, for example, a GAF meetup would look much different?

Everyone on NeoGAF is literally a Chad. Except maybe adamsapple and Men_In_Boxes. The the rest, are pure Chad

 

[bender]

So you can't find the download page for the base game on the eshop? Edit: I still think you should try setting the Switch 2 content not to install, THEN install the game even if it's the *named* the 2 version!

Are you trying to be obtuse? I've already gone over this multiple times and provide screenshots of what is available to download.

 

[Shifty1897]

If Nintendo just said they're looking into a patch to fix this, I think the complaints would stop. If if they are using some kind of crummy AI upscaler as post processing because the engine is so old, it should be pretty easy to just replace that with an open source solution like FSR 1.0 and get a better end result.

 

[BlackTron]

Are you trying to be obtuse? I've already gone over this multiple times and provide screenshots of what is available to download.

Right, but you won't give a direct answer, whether you have specifically opened the eshop and looked for the DLC page, which is the solution to the problem. You cannot arrive there, from your game card menu. Edit: In other words find this item on your Switch https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/p...lus-star-crossed-world-upgrade-pack-switch-2/

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

I only play my Switch 2 docked, and this upgrade performs great and looks great on my Bravia OLED.....it's like night and day from playing it pre patched. Is this issue people are bitching about only related to handheld mode?

 

[bender]

Right, but you won't give a direct answer, whether you have specifically opened the eshop and looked for the DLC page, which is the solution to the problem. You cannot arrive there, from your game card menu. Edit: In other words find this item on your Switch https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/p...lus-star-crossed-world-upgrade-pack-switch-2/

I did.

For Kirby, the eShop Switch 1 version directs you to "Virtual Game Cards".

You can't screenshot the store from the Switch 2.

Using the store link above, selecting the Switch 1 version takes you to a login page (even when logged in) and presents an error after entering credentials.

Error Code 9001-1695
This product includes content that you have already purchased or pre-ordered.

 

[Baemono]

Digital Foundry talking about the problem (timestamp).

I watched the video and I really have trouble to see the issue, the game still looks ugly as it was before, but at 60fps

 

[Itchy Tickles]

I don't think it matters. Sony "Drones"(to use your phrasing) brushed away any criticism by saying the same things ("its only $X", "Only a snack", etc.). Its all gouging of a closed customer base in the end so I don't see any moral high ground. Xbox was the only one which had smart delivery to my knowledge since the keys work on any xbox and PC. The focus should be on the fact that such an anticipated update is a train wreck alone.

We must live in a different world then, because I've see a hellva lot of people criticising Sony for their behaviour, rightfully so. Anyone who defends this type of nonsense can only be a fanboy / drone.

Unless I read it wrong, you both said that it doesn't matter and then that the focus should be on the train wreck, but surely being charged for the trainwreck makes it worse? And therefore it does matter.

The Xbox system is fine if you are ok using the xbox app on PC, but it is better than the offerings from the other 3 atm (there are rumours of Sony maybe doing something similar). The only ones missing out are the ones who want to enjoy the game they paid for.

 

[BlackTron]

I did.

OK man I'll take your word for it...you've explained everything EXCEPT that part...would be interesting what happened when you got to that DLC page, and if you tried to press +/- 5 times...and yeah it would have to be through the Switch, not a browser...

 

[bender]

OK man I'll take your word for it...you've explained everything EXCEPT that part...would be interesting what happened when you got to that DLC page, and if you tried to press +/- 5 times...and yeah it would have to be through the Switch, not a browser...

Wrong. I've explained it twice. Have a third:

For Kirby, the eShop Switch 1 version directs you to "Virtual Game Cards".

If I could screenshot the store page, I would, but it is blocked. The store page directs you to your Virtual Game Cards like the screenshots above show. I don't really care what you believe. Other people in this thread have explained the same situation.

 

[Dorfdad]

HOLY crap I was going to get this probably this week also. NOPE nada this looks on par with a 3DS or PSP release and they want to upcharge for it!? With these resolutions it should be 120fps!

 

[BlackTron]

Wrong. I've explained it twice. Have a third:



If I could screenshot the store page, I would, but it is blocked. The store page directs you to your Virtual Game Cards like the screenshots above show. I don't really care what you believe. Other people in this thread have explained the same situation.

FYI, take a look at this:


The Switch 1 store page and the DLC page are not the same thing!!!

 

[Fermbiz]

Xenoblade Chronicles X Demake