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Politics: More Bolton Misbehaves & More Damning War Mongering Evidence

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Macam

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NooooOOOOOOoooO!!!

Bolton Said to Orchestrate Unlawful Firing

John R. Bolton flew to Europe in 2002 to confront the head of a global arms-control agency and demand he resign, then orchestrated the firing of the unwilling diplomat in a move a U.N. tribunal has since judged unlawful, according to officials involved.

A former Bolton deputy says the U.S. undersecretary of state felt Jose Bustani "had to go," particularly because the Brazilian was trying to send chemical weapons inspectors to Baghdad. That might have helped defuse the crisis over alleged Iraqi weapons and undermined a U.S. rationale for war.

Bustani, who says he got a "menacing" phone call from Bolton at one point, was removed by a vote of just one-third of member nations at an unusual special session of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), at which the United States cited alleged mismanagement in calling for his ouster.

The United Nations' highest administrative tribunal later condemned the action as an "unacceptable violation" of principles protecting international civil servants. The OPCW session's Swiss chairman now calls it an "unfortunate precedent" and Bustani a "man with merit."

"Many believed the U.S. delegation didn't want meddling from outside in the Iraq business," said the retired Swiss diplomat, Heinrich Reimann. "That could be the case."


Bolton's handling of the multilateral showdown takes on added significance now as he looks for U.S. Senate confirmation as early as this week as U.N. ambassador, a key role on the international stage, and as more details have emerged in Associated Press interviews about what happened in 2002.

A spokeswoman told AP Bolton, keeping a low profile during his confirmation process, would have no comment for this article.

Bolton has been criticized for supposed bullying of junior U.S. officials and for efforts to get them fired. Bustani, a senior official under the U.N. umbrella, says Bolton used a threatening tone with him and "tried to order me around."

The Iraq connection to the OPCW affair comes as fresh evidence surfaces that the Bush administration was intent from early on to pursue military and not diplomatic action against Saddam Hussein's regime.

An official British document, disclosed last month, said Prime Minister Tony Blair agreed in April 2002 to join in an eventual U.S. attack on Iraq. Two weeks later, Bustani was ousted, with British help.


In 1997, the Brazilian arms-control specialist became founding director-general of the OPCW, whose inspectors oversee destruction of U.S., Russian and other chemical weapons under a 168-nation treaty banning such arms. The agency, based in The Hague, Netherlands, also inspects chemical plants worldwide to ensure they're not put to military use.

In May 2000, one year ahead of time and with strong U.S. support, Bustani was unanimously re-elected OPCW chief for a 2001-2005 term. Colin Powell, the new secretary of state, praised his leadership qualities in a personal letter in 2001.

But Ralph Earle, a veteran U.S. arms negotiator, told AP that he and others in Bolton's arms-control bureau grew unhappy with what they considered Bustani's mismanagement. The agency chief also "had a big ego. He did things on his own," and wasn't responsive to U.S. and other countries' positions, said Earle, now retired.

Both Earle and career diplomat Avis Bohlen, who retired in June 2002 as a top Bolton deputy, said the idea to remove Bustani did not originate with the undersecretary. But Bolton "leaped on it enthusiastically," Bohlen recalled. "He was very much in charge of the whole campaign," she said, and Bustani's initiative on Iraq seemed the "coup de grace."

"It was that that made Bolton decide he had to go," Bohlen said.

After U.N. arms inspectors had withdrawn from Iraq in 1998 in a dispute with the Baghdad government, Bustani stepped up his initiative, seeking to bring Iraq — and other Arab states — into the chemical weapons treaty.

Bustani's inspectors would have found nothing, because Iraq's chemical weapons were destroyed in the early 1990s. That would have undercut the U.S. rationale for war because the Bush administration by early 2002 was claiming, without hard evidence, that Baghdad still had such an arms program.

In a March 2002 "white paper," Bolton's office said Bustani was seeking an "inappropriate role" in Iraq, and the matter should be left to the U.N. Security Council — where Washington has a veto.


Bolton said in a 2003 AP interview that Iraq was "completely irrelevant" to Bustani's responsibilities. Earle and Bohlen disagree. Enlisting new treaty members was part of the OPCW chief's job, they said, although they thought he should have consulted with Washington.

Former Bustani aide Bob Rigg, a New Zealander, sees a clear U.S. motivation: "Why did they not want OPCW involved in Iraq? They felt they couldn't rely on OPCW to come up with the findings the U.S. wanted."

Bustani and his aides believe friction with Washington over OPCW inspections of U.S. chemical-industry sites also contributed to the showdown, which went on for months.

In June 2001, Bolton "telephoned me to try to interfere, in a menacing tone, in decisions that are the exclusive responsibility of the director-general," Bustani wrote in 2002 in a Brazilian academic journal.

He elaborated in an interview with the French newspaper Le Monde in mid-2002, saying Bolton "tried to order me around," and sought to have some U.S. inspection results overlooked and certain Americans hired to OPCW positions. The agency head said he refused.

Bustani, now in a sensitive position as Brazil's London ambassador, indicated to the AP through an intermediary that he would have no additional comment.

The United States went public with the campaign in March 2002, moving to terminate Bustani's tenure. On the eve of an OPCW Executive Council meeting to consider the U.S. no-confidence motion, Bolton met Bustani in The Hague to seek his resignation, U.S. and OPCW officials said.

When Bustani refused, "Bolton said something like, `Now we'll do it the other way,' and walked out," Rigg recounted.

In the Executive Council, the Americans failed to win majority support among the 41 nations. A month later, on April 21, at U.S. insistence, an unprecedented special session of the full treaty conference was called.

Addressing the delegates, Bustani said the conference must decide whether genuine multilateralism "will be replaced by unilateralism in a multilateral disguise."

Only 113 nations were represented, 15 without voting rights because their dues were far in arrears. The U.S. delegation had suggested it would withhold U.S. dues — 22 percent of the budget — if Bustani stayed in office, stirring fears of an OPCW collapse.

This time the Americans, with British help, got the required two-thirds vote of those present and voting. But that amounted to only 48 in favor of removing Bustani — and seven opposed and 43 abstaining — in an organization then with 145 member states.


Bustani appealed the decision to the Administrative Tribunal of the International Labor Organization in Geneva, a judicial body to which agencies in the U.N. family submit personnel cases. The OPCW, meanwhile, named a new director-general, Rogelio Pfirter of Argentina.

In a stern rebuke issued in July 2003, the three-member U.N. tribunal said the U.S. allegations were "extremely vague" and the dismissal "unlawful." It said international civil servants must not be made "vulnerable to pressures and to political change."

Noting that Bustani did not seek reinstatement, it awarded him unpaid salary and 50,000 euros, or $61,500, in damages. He said he would donate the damages to an OPCW technical aid fund for poorer countries.

Reimann, the former OPCW conference chairman, says he looks back with sadness at what was done.

"I think there's no doubt Bustani wanted to serve the organization, to get wider membership and all these things," the Swiss diplomat said. "He was fighting very bravely to make it work."

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050604/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/bolton_un_firing

In case you want actually want to do something and try your hand at making your opinions about not nominating (or, in the case of Iceman, nominating), I'd highly suggest shooting off a short e-mail to your state Senators encouraging them to stand up against the White House's pressure. Senator Voinovich, a Republican and head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who's putting his credibility with the administration on the line by being one of the strongest vocal critics against Bolton's nomination and sticking with his gut would be a good start, and I highly encourage anyone interested in supporting his stance:

http://voinovich.senate.gov/contact/index.htm

I now return you to your daily GAF Post your pics NOW!! and T&A threads.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
G4life98 said:
at what point will the politicians man up and call for bush's impeachment?

When their constituents man up and call for their representatives to do so.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Only 113 nations were represented, 15 without voting rights because their dues were far in arrears. The U.S. delegation had suggested it would withhold U.S. dues — 22 percent of the budget — if Bustani stayed in office, stirring fears of an OPCW collapse.

This time the Americans, with British help, got the required two-thirds vote of those present and voting. But that amounted to only 48 in favor of removing Bustani — and seven opposed and 43 abstaining — in an organization then with 145 member states.
So... was the situation just that two-thirds needed to be present for the vote and then a simple majority won? If that's the case, what the fuck were those 43 other nations doing abstaining?

Also, does anyone remember this guy's unwilling removal making news back in 2002 and 2003, when all of this article's events went down? I can't say I do, but then, I also get fed up with following a lot of this shit at the time.
 

Macam

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Dan said:
So... was the situation just that two-thirds needed to be present for the vote and then a simple majority won? If that's the case, what the fuck were those 43 other nations doing abstaining?

Correct. I'm not certain what the countries abstaining motives were, but I would presume they were probably smaller countries fearful of economic and political retribution from a certain hyperpower, who was already calling an unprecedented special session to specifically remove one man from their war mongering blueprint.
 
Macam said:
Senator Voinovich, a Republican and head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who's putting his credibility with the administration on the line by being one of the strongest vocal critics against Bolton's nomination and sticking with his gut would be a good start, and I highly encourage anyone interested in supporting his stance:

http://voinovich.senate.gov/contact/index.htm

Senator Voinovich had the chance to end this whole process by casting his vote against John Bolton in the Foreign Relations Committee. Instead, he caved under pressure by the White House and has since been spotted crying in the Senate urging his fellow Senators not to vote for his confirmation. Spare me the crocodile tears, Senator. You had the chance to end all of this, and you simply punted your responsibility to the 50 Republican Senators who only have one question for the Bush administration: How high, dear leaders?

If I'm going to email that dust in the wind, I'll be sure to let him know how unwilling he is to stand up for his own convictions. If this is matter is "important to my grandchilden", as you said, then you would have developed a backbone in the committee and finished what you so wilfully decry now.

The same goes for Lincoln Chaffee.
 

Macam

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Incognito said:
Senator Voinovich had the chance to end this whole process by casting his vote against John Bolton in the Foreign Relations Committee. Instead, he caved under pressure by the White House and has since been spotted crying in the Senate urging his fellow Senators not to vote for his confirmation. Spare me the crocodile tears, Senator. You had the chance to end all of this, and you simply punted your responsibility to the 50 Republican Senators who only have one question for the Bush administration: How high, dear leaders?

I won't argue with that, but hell, it's a start. It's not like the Democrats or whatever remaining semblance of moderate Repbulicans remains do dramatic turnarounds either. At best, we're stuck with sluggish attempts at opposition, but I'll take what I can get. Perhaps with encouragement we may see future attempts at developing the full backbone.
 

GG-Duo

Member
wait, so despite the discussions at the Senate - your president can simply sidestep it and appoint him anyway?

What the fuck? I thought you guys had a democracy.
 

sonicfan

Venerable Member
GG-Duo said:
wait, so despite the discussions at the Senate - your president can simply sidestep it and appoint him anyway?

What the fuck? I thought you guys had a democracy.

Well, uh no, the US is a Constitutional Republic.

And what Bush is doing is called a recess appointment, its has a long history.

Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution:

"The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."


Kennedy used to to get Thurgood Marshall on the bench, George Washington even used to to appoint a Chief Justice. It been used by almost every President, I think Bill Clinton used it as much as any President, 140 times in his 8 years.
 

GG-Duo

Member
Thanks for that clarification. As much as I (we) want to antagonize Bush, it's good to be reminded that the privilege was previously used.

With that said... man, what an ugly move.
 
sonicfan said:
Well, uh no, the US is a Constitutional Republic.

And what Bush is doing is called a recess appointment, its has a long history.

Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution:

"The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."


Kennedy used to to get Thurgood Marshall on the bench, George Washington even used to to appoint a Chief Justice. It been used by almost every President, I think Bill Clinton used it as much as any President, 140 times in his 8 years.

Actually, Bill Clinton's number is far, far lower than Reagan's who had something like 250 recess appointments.
 

APF

Member
Even if your plan is to push reform from within, will it be effective to appoint someone who the UN is clearly antagonistic towards, as seen in the initial posted article?
 

Azih

Member
sorry guys, but you americans have an administration that is a complete and utter failure at diplomacy here.
 

sonicfan

Venerable Member
Incognito said:
Actually, Bill Clinton's number is far, far lower than Reagan's who had something like 250 recess appointments.

You are right, Reagan made 243 RAs (239 according to another source). Bush I made 77, in line with Clinton. President Carter made 68, also about the same rate.
 

impirius

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Azih, Condi Rice is doing pretty well as secretary of State, but other than that.. yeah.

...

....geez, LOOK AT THIS GUY

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Azih said:
sorry guys, but you americans have an administration that is a complete and utter failure at diplomacy here.


If it makes you feel any better they are pretty shitty at domestic policy as well.
 
What irks you so much about the UN, Toxic? The fact they dole out enourmous aid to impoverished countries or the fact they don't support the Iraqi War?
 

Triumph

Banned
xsarien said:
I hear Cheney's curveball is second to none.
It's true, and Rumsfeld is a damn fine shortstop with the glove AND the bat. They're only looking to get better with adding Bolton as their backstop and potentially getting Roberts to man center. I think they could go all the way this year!
 
Azih said:
Well, I do.
Why? Nothing will happen with him. Democrats will reject him, repubs will say Democrats are playing politics, 2008 will come around and this still won't be resolved. Why care? I don't.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
got to love that democracy when a president can just say "ha, fuck you! i snuck him in whilst you were at the beach!" after the normal course of debate raises questions.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
DCharlie said:
got to love that democracy when a president can just say "ha, fuck you! i snuck him in whilst you were at the beach!" after the normal course of debate raises questions.

Well, the ability to do a recess appointment has stood for awhile, and it's by no means permanent. In about a year, the Senate will be able to revisit the issue and either keep him in place, or yank him out.
 

Azih

Member
VictimOfGrief said:
Why? Nothing will happen with him. Democrats will reject him, repubs will say Democrats are playing politics, 2008 will come around and this still won't be resolved. Why care? I don't.
Because this means that the divide between the U.S and its allies will continue to widen especially since this will be seen quite rightly as a resounding 'Fuck You' by Bush to any country who would want to do something other than just mindlessly lick America's foreign policy boots.

Complete. Failure. Of. Diplomacy.
 
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