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[MDSLKTR]

Voost we missed you!!

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Honestly, the number sounds pretty good, considering that it's this new, limited access thing. Comparing it to PS4 and Xbone number is dumb. I'm as much of a Stadia hater as anyone, but this isn't really the thing to chide them over.

 

[MaximusPayne]

Voost, you're trying too hard buddy.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Despite some mixed reviews, many of which are questionable, it seems that Stadia is starting out strong. We'll have see how it performs during Black Friday and Cyber Monday before we can be sure, but if this is any indication I would say the service has proven to be a success.

Google needs to make sure they work with software developers to expand the library as fast as possible to prevent droughts and to ensure that they take advantage of the year head start they have over the next Xbox and PlayStation

 

[reconminicon]

I thought this only worked on Pixel?

 

[Ixiah]

Spending $120 and not having to mess with hardware upgrades, only needing good internet connection, ain't it cool?

All of this for low price of 120 $ ?
Exept the recommended good Internet Connection requires no one else in the House using it, you buying a more powerfull router (more money to spend) and even in Big Citys with Fiber you get 1 sec lag.
And for what ?
I bought a 450€ GPU, i can play in 4K/60 and im not dependent on the ammount of Players who use the service at the same time.
I pitty the suckers who gonna spend full price on old games just to watch them taken away in 1 Year with a weak "Sorry".

 

[Shadowstar39]

It isn't pessimism. It is honesty. Google has been telling bald-faced lies to promote Stadia. People who recognize it don't appreciate it. Then we see the line-up. Then we see the pricing. Then we see what they delivered day 1 to a segment of their pre-order customers. Then we consider Google's history when it comes to products that don't enjoy immediate, overwhelming success

They might have the best technology on the backend when it comes to game streaming but everything else they need to build on top of that foundation has been an absolute shitshow.

The current business model is what is really going to sink them, though. People aren't even going to get to experience the technology because they're going to simply say no when they see standard MSRP pricing on the games. The market they should be addressing is the one that is happy renting games. Google should be the one buying the games and then renting access to them. Let somebody play Destiny for a few days for $3-$5, with the option to buy a permanent license if they want. That's the model that will get people onto the platform. Not the current model which can be summed up as: Pay more, get less.

Considering the early adopter price is only $130, I think these app download numbers are painting a pretty dismal picture. If Stadia were an appealing product it would be flying off the shelves at that price.

Yeah but publishers aren't going to go for that. The return would be abysmal for them. So isn't going to happen.

 

[Shadowstar39]

All of this for low price of 120 $ ?
Exept the recommended good Internet Connection requires no one else in the House using it, you buying a more powerfull router (more money to spend) and even in Big Citys with Fiber you get 1 sec lag.
And for what ?
I bought a 450€ GPU, i can play in 4K/60 and im not dependent on the ammount of Players who use the service at the same time.
I pitty the suckers who gonna spend full price on old games just to watch them taken away in 1 Year with a weak "Sorry".

That's the thing. You know they will shut down servers for this after it flops. Look how fast mp game servers go down even when there are still players. Hell there are tons of console games you can't even play now because the servers don't exist after 2 to 3 years. It's the same reason why I am reluctant to buy any games as a service type games or mmos. I got burned on mmos too many times back in the day (age of conann, vanguard, LOTR, etc).

This is also a concern with digital game sales. What if the game gets romoved from the store by publisher due licensing issues or the store gets taken down/company goes out of business. I have 100s of games I nought on sale digital (AAA and indie) that I would hate to loose as I don't have time to play everything I buy right away. Sometimes want to play years later. That problem is 1000x worse with stadia as this isn't established. At least my sony, Nintendo, steam games I know they have solid history in gaming, not so with Google (remember how fast they pulled Google plus).
So all that money down the drain, screw that just buy a console and most games you should be able to play a decade from now of the machine still works.

 

[Woo-Fu]

Yeah but publishers aren't going to go for that. The return would be abysmal for them. So isn't going to happen.

It doesn't have to be abysmal, though. They were OK with game rentals in the past, just a matter of working a deal.

The thing to remember about software sales via digital distribution/licensing is that each additional copy/license costs you very little. Selling licenses to to a rental service to attract people who won't pay full price for your game makes you money. As long as the timing/pricing is right to counteract cannibalization it is simply a new market that requires very little upfront/ongoing expense.

 

[spawn]

Uh, come on guys, why so much hate?
The main problem with it is google's track record on "no fucks given, I'll axe this"

Spending $120 and not having to mess with hardware upgrades, only needing good internet connection, ain't it cool?

Yeah, there are cons, but there is nothing wrong with the idea.
Uber low lag is also not a must have for many games, heck, if MK is playable, what are we even discussing.

Reviews are saying that MK is unplayable

 

[B_Boss]

It is very improbable that someone would download the Stadia app without knowing what Stadia is, and of those who do know what it is would likely know they would need a code.

I'd say its still a fairly scientific question ultimately, just for the sake of science. I wouldn't assume that every single recorded download of the app means that those are actual Stadia purchases w/access code.

 

[llien]

I bought a 450€ GPU, i can play in 4K/60 and im not dependent on the ammount of Players who use the service at the same time.

It will become weak rather soon. And $120 is likely comparable to electricity costs alone.

The "do not share inet connection" is for people with wifi.

Reviews are saying that MK is unplayable

I was told that they "felt' lag, but far from unplayable.

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

To put this into perspective, this means that in one year, assuming Stadia 'sell's' 50% more than this for the next 12 months consistently,

Stadia would sell less than 3 million drms by next Nov.

That's with me being nice and giving it sales it will never archive. I expect this to shut down in 6-8 months.

 

[spawn]

I was told that they "felt' lag, but far from unplayable.

IMO a competitive fighting game with lag is unplayable

 

[DTU]

All of this for low price of 120 $ ?
Exept the recommended good Internet Connection requires no one else in the House using it, you buying a more powerfull router (more money to spend) and even in Big Citys with Fiber you get 1 sec lag.
And for what ?
I bought a 450€ GPU, i can play in 4K/60 and im not dependent on the ammount of Players who use the service at the same time.
I pitty the suckers who gonna spend full price on old games just to watch them taken away in 1 Year with a weak "Sorry".

That's just straight up untrue. I can play fine with no artifacting at full frame rate with others in the house doing the those things. I know it's cool to hate on Stadia, but c'mon.

 

[slade]

It is very improbable that someone would download the Stadia app without knowing what Stadia is, and of those who do know what it is would likely know they would need a code.

I did and then uninstalled it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Reviews are saying that MK is unplayable

Wait until DOOM.

 

[Ixiah]

That's just straight up untrue. I can play fine with no artifacting at full frame rate with others in the house doing the those things. I know it's cool to hate on Stadia, but c'mon.

Congrats, you smoke and didnt get Cancer.

 

[Tenaciousmo]

I mean... The ps4 broke the million in sales Day 1 and was twice the price... even if you say that most of the downloads are actual subscribers, this cannot look well.

 

[DTU]

Congrats, you smoke and didnt get Cancer.

Me and 100% of the 8 people that I know who have it, sure. But I get it, it's cool to hate on it and therefore you're cool for hating on it. Cool guy.

 

[Ixiah]

Me and 100% of the 8 people that I know who have it, sure. But I get it, it's cool to hate on it and therefore you're cool for hating on it. Cool guy.

Sorry, but why defend an overall bad product ?

 

[mckmas8808]

It will become weak rather soon. And $120 is likely comparable to electricity costs alone.

The "do not share inet connection" is for people with wifi.

$120 is for the hardware alone (right now at least)! And the games are full price and many of them are old games. PLUS, you don't own any of the games. Why shouldn't that same person not just spend $199 and get a PS4 or XBox One S this holiday season and get 3 or 4 games for free?

 

[llien]

$120 is for the hardware alone (right now at least)! And the games are full price and many of them are old games. PLUS, you don't own any of the games

Price bit sucks (and is typically google), but your onboarding is forever. Major bump in GPU/CPUs? Yep, still covered.

I'm, again, ignoring "it's google and they'll likely axe it soon anyway" bit.

Why shouldn't that same person not just spend $199 and get a PS4 or XBox One S this holiday season and get 3 or 4 games for free?

That works as a generic argument against PC.

 

[Lanrutcon]

Price bit sucks (and is typically google), but your onboarding is forever. Major bump in GPU/CPUs? Yep, still covered.

I'm, again, ignoring "it's google and they'll likely axe it soon anyway" bit.


That works as a generic argument against PC.

No, it really doesn't. Winky face.

 

[lock2k]

Despite some mixed reviews, many of which are questionable, it seems that Stadia is starting out strong. We'll have see how it performs during Black Friday and Cyber Monday before we can be sure, but if this is any indication I would say the service has proven to be a success.

Google needs to make sure they work with software developers to expand the library as fast as possible to prevent droughts and to ensure that they take advantage of the year head start they have over the next Xbox and PlayStation

Stadia defender number 1 is back.

 

[Grinchy]

I can't believe 175,000 people paid $130 for a Founder's Edition. What's wrong with you people?

 

[JCK75]

How many of those downloads have the access code registered?

Well all of the Founders got theirs, On Day 2 of the code rollout disaster they finally found their problem and codes went out really quickly from there. I believe today or tomorrow is the premiere edition folks launch so we'll see how that goes but I expect it to be smoother for them than it was for me.

 

[Väinömäinen]

As if the Stadia wasn't even worse, than I thought, the pricing is unfathomable. The subscription alone costs $600 per generation. When you add the hardware cost, you pay more for Stadia, than actual console. And of course, If you bought a console instead, you coud play with your console and your games happily ever after.

 

[Vawn]

As if the Stadia wasn't even worse, than I thought, the pricing is unfathomable. The subscription alone costs $600 per generation. When you add the hardware cost, you pay more for Stadia, than actual console. And of course, If you bought a console instead, you coud play with your console and your games happily ever after.

Yeah, Stadia is a completely different topic from game streaming in general. Even if you believe we are at a point where game streaming is a viable replacement for traditional consoles (I don't), Stadia is still a horrible investment.

Having to buy individual games at full price, with no guarantee how long you will have access to those games, is not very tempting.

On top of that, you need to pay a monthly fee to get the games to play at maximum specs (which it currently doesnt even meet).

 

[CatLady]

Yeah, Stadia is a completely different topic from game streaming in general. Even if you believe we are at a point where game streaming is a viable replacement for traditional consoles (I don't), Stadia is still a horrible investment.

Having to buy individual games at full price, with no guarantee how long you will have access to those games, is not very tempting.

On top of that, you need to pay a monthly fee to get the games to play at maximum specs (which it currently doesn't even meet).

Totally agree. If you really, REALLY want to have play anywhere laggy input streaming, why not wait for xCloud. It will be play anywhere on anything also (even phones that aren't Skynet Pixel), It probably won't be any worse than Stadia and it will have Game Pass so you don't have to buy old games for a lot more money than you'd pay anywhere else, or you can buy and OWN your games and you would have a much bigger selection of games.

Personally I have ZERO interest in either xCloud or Stadia but it seems if you just gotta have it, xCloud is a better choice and if you don't need the play on anything feature, PSNow with the new pricing and a better selection of exclusive AAA games would also be a far superior choice compared to Stadia.

 

[McCheese]

Wonder if its mandatory for every google member of staff to download it once.

You joke, but they made me register for Google+ back when I worked there.

 

[Alebrije]

I guess Google knows they will lost tons of money for years until the game/business model becomes massive and profitable......they have the money to wait the same did Microsoft with Xbone....of you have the money can keep loosing money some years....

 

[Fat Frog]

As if the Stadia wasn't even worse, than I thought, the pricing is unfathomable. The subscription alone costs $600 per generation. When you add the hardware cost, you pay more for Stadia, than actual console. And of course, If you bought a console instead, you coud play with your console and your games happily ever after.

$600 or the cost of a bluetooth controller if you choose the base version.

Listen, i don't want to be a google bot but streaming platforms could be a good option for trips or sunday night if your X box one X is broken the only moment without your wife and kids.

You can go back to your bed and forget Cyberpunk or play it through Stadia with a controller on your phone

in 1080p.(sorry, 720p since your wife is sucking the bandwidth watching BBC on pornhub in the bathroom).

More seriously, Stadia will be trash for Fighting games (i was even bugged by the latency of SF4 on 360 wireless controllers so i don't imagine with streaming...) but honestly i won't be difficult for open worlds and RPGs.(plus, i'm sure the performances will increase through time)

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

Black Fridays coming up, what's everyone's predictions? I think by the end of the year that 175,000 will be 185,000, massive success guys, Sony and Microsoft are spooked and are now ready to give up the console wars as they will only likely sell like 10 million consoles together this holiday, how can that compare to 10,000 Stadia sales????

We got a bad ass here guys, the industry is over as we know it!